Why is KC Superman so loved?

#1 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman from Kingdom Come, why is he so loved? He has a-lot of fans.

I like him because he was badass, no shit type of personality.

#2 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

I prefer the standard post-crisis version.... but he's mostly loved because I think he shows the emotional vulnerability of Superman, and that he's the last flicker of light in a completely darkened world. He's also supposedly more powerful than the standard post-crisis.... although, I didn't see him do anything particularly powerful that the standard version hasn't done.

#3 Posted by Jekylhyde14 (746 posts) - - Show Bio

He has this iconic weight to him much like the Golden Age version of Superman. You can believe that people would want to follow him into hell. He was also pretty tough and uncompromising. He knew he was fighting a war of ideals and what he needed to do to try and win it. I personally like the fact that he was struggling for a coexistence between meta-humans and regular people. He needed to believe that people as extraordinary as him had a place in this world. Honestly, Kingdom Come is my best memory of Superman from the '90's. It was his highlight during my childhood.

#4 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@GunGunW said:

I prefer the standard post-crisis version.... but he's mostly loved because I think he shows the emotional vulnerability of Superman, and that he's the last flicker of light in a completely darkened world. He's also supposedly more powerful than the standard post-crisis.... although, I didn't see him do anything particularly powerful that the standard version hasn't done.

....He tanked Hercules's hit while Post-Crisis Superman went flying, he's also older and has therefore absorbed more radiation.

#5 Posted by 0n1zuka (3715 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: He probably should be stronger considering he's had more time under the Sun, but he doesn't really have the feats to support it. That being said, while KC is one of my favorite comic stories, I like older Clark about as much as the regular one.

#6 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Yeah, but all that means is that if Superman DID absorb more yellow energy in his standard incarnation, he'd be as strong. Besides, it's not like Hercules is stronger than Superman even in the standard version.... and I may be mistaken, but I feel like Hercules is magic based? I don't know about that though, but anyway I still think he should have built up SOME immunity to magic in his older age considering he was completely immune to kryptonite at this point.... it should have been the other way around imo.

#7 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@GunGunW said:

@comicdude23: Yeah, but all that means is that if Superman DID absorb more yellow energy in his standard incarnation, he'd be as strong. Besides, it's not like Hercules is stronger than Superman even in the standard version.... and I may be mistaken, but I feel like Hercules is magic based? I don't know about that though, but anyway I still think he should have built up SOME immunity to magic in his older age considering he was completely immune to kryptonite at this point.... it should have been the other way around imo.

Hercules doesn't punch with magic he punches with his strength. He did build it up, but it was clearly shown that he was far stronger. The punch didn't even phase him.

#8 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Just to clarify, are you saying it proved KC Superman is stronger than regular Superman? Or are you saying it proves Hercules is stronger than Superman?

#9 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@GunGunW said:

@comicdude23: Just to clarify, are you saying it proved KC Superman is stronger than regular Superman? Or are you saying it proves Hercules is stronger than Superman?

No. It proved KC Superman stronger.

#10 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

He's essentially the same character. I think more people loved the setting and story rather than this incarnation of the character.

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#11 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

He's cool, but he's still the same character...

#12 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: I know this is off topic, but do you think he could stomp Supergirl?, anyways, he isn't the same. He was going to kill innocent people at the end of Kingdom Come, he was more bitter and darker.

#13 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Supergirl? As in Pre-52 Supergirl? Considering that he over a decade to absorb solar radiation, he outgrew many of his weaknesses such as Kryptonite and he became far stronger and they even stated in Thy Kingdom Come that he was a fast as Wally.

So yes, he wouldn't have much of a problem.

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#14 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: Supergirl? As in Pre-52 Supergirl? Considering that he over a decade to absorb solar radiation, he outgrew many of his weaknesses such as Kryptonite and he became far stronger and they even stated in Thy Kingdom Come that he was a fast as Wally.

So yes, he wouldn't have much of a problem.

Pre-52 or New-52. I think he could easily do it.

#15 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Without a doubt.

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#16 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: He could also beat the New-52 Superman.

But wait, this whole 52 thing. Is it a prequel or a reboot?

Is pre-52 Superman the same Superman as the new 52-Superman?

Is Infinite Crisis still canon?

#17 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

@Deranged Midget: He could also beat the New-52 Superman.

Yes

But wait, this whole 52 thing. Is it a prequel or a reboot?

Reboot.

Is pre-52 Superman the same Superman as the new 52-Superman?

He resembles his Golden Age counterpart in Action Comics more while the Superman shown in Justice League and Superman is for the most part, exactly the same as Pre-52 but younger and weaker.

Is Infinite Crisis still canon?

Not sure, doubtful.

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#18 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: Ah, so he is the same Superman. That means alot of his stories aren't even canon anymore, I thought all this 52 stuff would come before the stories we've seen.

#19 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: No, the New 52 essentially rebooted the entire DCU and combined it with Wildstorm.

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#20 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: No, the New 52 essentially rebooted the entire DCU and combined it with Wildstorm.

So what happened to the Pre-52 Superman??? Did they merge? Or was it retcon? Sorry for being so curious btw.

I'm better with the Pre-Crisis stuff IMO.

#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Have you read Flashpoint? Basically the past universe is erased. The only person who possibly still remembers is Barry Allen as he was the one responsible. Pre-52 Superman is now 52 Superman. Some characters have remained exactly the same while others have been completely revamped.

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#22 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: Have you read Flashpoint? Basically the past universe is erased. The only person who possibly still remembers is Barry Allen as he was the one responsible. Pre-52 Superman is now 52 Superman. Some characters have remained exactly the same while others have been completely revamped.

No. I didn't read it. You say Pre-52 is now New-52 Superman, that's what I said before.

#23 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Essentially, the Pre-52 universe has been erased, so yes, they are one and the same.

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