Why do people say Superman doesnt have a cool rogues Gallery?

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#51 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio
#52 Posted by matchesmalone21 (8406 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman's best villains (some are new): Lex Luthor,Metallo,Parasite (Rudy Jones),Mongul I,Cyborg Superman,Preus,Doomsday,Ruin (It's a shame that Hammilton disappeared),Brainiac,Bizarro,General Zod,Atlas (he had potential)

#53 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (58 posts) - - Show Bio

I think when it gets to the nit and grits of it the bad guys are like politicians where they dictate the issues and yeah we can point out we don't like them cause they are bad. But personally at the end of the day the baddies get what they get and that's the end of it. I think the reason why the rouge gallery of let's say batman is cooler is they are literally psychopaths. They do horrendous things, they're killers, evil people and there's something more sinister about them which hits closer to real life as they are what makes me run quickly to my car in an empty parking lot at 2 am in the morning in the city. While in our minds we know that Batman and his crew will probably prevail at the end we wonder at what costs, a life or maybe someones use of their legs. I'll admit I haven't read a whole lot of superman comics but if an enemy has to reach an all new level they probably would have to kill someone close to Superman. Not sure if anything like that happened or if DC would allow that to happen.

#54 Edited by Sylvain (1640 posts) - - Show Bio

for me his gallery is in the top 3.

#55 Posted by herrweis (428 posts) - - Show Bio

I think his villians are fine,he is just boring as hell.

#56 Edited by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

Because they're deluded.

#57 Posted by consolemaster001 (4951 posts) - - Show Bio

zod is badass.

#58 Edited by deaditegonzo (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes has probably my favourite Rogues Gallery in comics.

  • Darkseid
  • Helspont
  • Mongul
  • Doomsday
  • Manchester Black
  • H'El
  • Brainiac
  • Parasite
  • Metallo
  • Bizarro (Ed McGuinness style or Red Son status)
  • Atomic Skull
  • Composite Superman
  • Eradicator
  • Cyborg Superman
  • General Zod
  • Imperiex
  • Kryptonite Man
  • Lex Luthor
  • Lobo
  • Mxy
  • Superboy-Prime
  • Ultraman
  • Gog
  • Dominus
  • Kalibak
  • Dr. Xa' Du
  • Vyndktvk

Man, I planned on just listing ones I really like, then the list just exploded on me. He has the biggest, baddest rogues gallery of anyone.

#59 Posted by entropy_aegis (14281 posts) - - Show Bio

I really like some of his villains such as

Lex Luthor

Brainiac

Mongul

Cyborg Superman

General Zod

Lord Vyndktvx

Parasite

but yeah beyond these guys it's hard to come up with an interesting villain,sure Mandrakk,Solaris,Doomsday and Imperiex were big threats but there's not much dynamic there.Bizarro is just dumb,Preus and H'el are redundant(thanks to Zod and Eradicator),Mxy I think is better off replaced by Vyndktvx.

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#60 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
#61 Posted by entropy_aegis (14281 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: Nah I didn't,I just do not see him as a Superman villain.

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#62 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_: Nah I didn't,I just do not see him as a Superman villain.

You mean like you don't see Thanos as a Silver Surfer villain?

#63 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

It's mostly because his rogues gallery is largely underused and underappreciated.

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#64 Edited by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually see Darkseid as the pinnacle Superman Villain .

Threat LevelSupermanWonder WomanBatman

God /Paranormal Threat

Can my world, civilization, city survive a visit from this threat?

Darkseid Ares Ra's al Ghul

Physical Threat

Can the hero survive a fight with this threat?

Doomsday Genocide Bane

Archenemy

Has this threat launched the ultimate salvo to end the hero?

Lex Luthor Circe Joker

#65 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

It's mostly because his rogues gallery is largely underused and underappreciated.

Sadly, it's most underappreciated by the writers. Darkseid, who really is DC's big bad, not just Superman's, was used to job so often that he basically just became a nuisance to Clark. The worst part of that is, it was just the same few writers.

The fact that Doomsday is Superman's fiercest foe (in canon) and basically the only one who has never jobbed completely really says something about how the rest of his rogues are treated.

Johns shanghaied Mongul and Cyborg Superman because there was some yellow on their costumes and that's the extent of Johns' creativity. They'd rather reboot Brainiac, Zod, and Random Kryptonian #133 (like H'el) for the sixtieth time than make threats of the Toyman, Prankster, etc... Just lazy writing.

#66 Posted by jesusdisciple001 (545 posts) - - Show Bio

D answer:Danny Phantom he had interesting villians who have nothing to do wit his family except Vlad who was used sparingly and made a steorotype likeable and also give Clark more emo threats like Smallville going 2 some jacked up version of wonderland created by someone who knows his identity and depower supes to carrying d earth 4 like 2 days or so and let parasite be like stealing 3 days worth of carrying d earth while still being able to absorb people's powers and create someone who challenges his justice side by suing superman for taking law into his hands and win only to be a telepath working 4 hive queen wanting revenge after he defeats in dis upcoming arc ,also make superman villians more occuring and let him have stronger ties to his supporting cast and family like where is Krypto just like in Danny phantom,spectacular spiderman and even superman:TAS..............someone know how i can get a job at DC cuz i got like 2 yrs worth of supes stories in my head that should pls everyone :)

#67 Posted by entropy_aegis (14281 posts) - - Show Bio
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#68 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio
#69 Posted by HeWhoSees (629 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually see Darkseid as the pinnacle Superman Villain .

Threat LevelSupermanWonder WomanBatman

God /Paranormal Threat

Can my world, civilization, city survive a visit from this threat?

DarkseidAresRa's al Ghul

Physical Threat

Can the hero survive a fight with this threat?

DoomsdayGenocideBane

Archenemy

Has this threat launched the ultimate salvo to end the hero?

Lex LuthorCirceJoker

Agreed, for the most part. Though I'd replace Bane with Croc since, at least in his first appearance, Bane was more than just dumb muscle.

#70 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio
#71 Posted by ngroove (321 posts) - - Show Bio

Replace dopey "Jack Nimball" with ol' Benjamin Franklin-lookalike "Winslow Schott", and Amalak with Metallo (whom Bronze Age version would not appear until a year after this image anyways), and call it a "rogues gallery".

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