Why did DC have Johns redo the Superman origin......

#1 Edited by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

If they were planning to change it anyway? DC can't have a great writer redo the origin of superman(and have be high quality) and then just toss it out 2 years later.

#2 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc will redo the Superman origin every now and then to make more money.

#3 Posted by Deranged Midget (17965 posts) - - Show Bio

When did he redo Clark's origin? Morrison has been handling that the entire time. Johns has merely pointed towards his origin during Justice League.

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#4 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34957 posts) - - Show Bio
@Eternal19: Grant Morrison redid Superman not Johns
#5 Posted by The_Tree (7939 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

When did he redo Clark's origin? Morrison has been handling that the entire time. Johns has merely pointed towards his origin during Justice League.

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@Eternal19: Grant Morrison redid Superman not Johns

He's talking about Superman: Secret Origin. He's wondering why Johns was allowed to create that origin story only to have it erased about a year later by Grant Morrison in The New 52.

@Eternal19: I'm most certain that The New 52 wasn't in the works at the time Johns was writing Superman: Secret Origin, so he probably believed that the origin he wrote would stick around for awhile. When The New 52 was sprung onto the writers at DC, it was at very short notice and a lot of hasty, continuity changing decisions were made. Thus giving us yet another origin in The New 52.

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#6 Posted by Deranged Midget (17965 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Tree: Ah, thank you for clearing that up mate!

Personally, I never really liked Secret Origin. I vastly preferred Birthright as an ideal origin story for the Man of Steel.

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#7 Posted by Gambit1024 (9843 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh, don't worry about it. Birthright was a million times better anyway.

#8 Posted by Squalleon (4855 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Meh, don't worry about it. Birthright was a million times better anyway.

only storywise..........because the art was awful!

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#9 Posted by sinestro_GL (3322 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair, Superman's origin gets redone every now and again...expect to see a different one in next year's 'Man of Steel'

#10 Posted by longbowhunter (7693 posts) - - Show Bio

I was all ready to read Secret Origin when the tpb hit. Then I heard about the New 52 and didnt even bother. I love the other Johns/Frank Supes stories though. I really should still give it a read.

#11 Posted by SmashBrawler (5978 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Meh, don't worry about it. Birthright was a million times better anyway.

Yes it was. Secret Origin was boring as fudge.

#12 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Birthright its a great story that i recomend to anyone who is even remotely interested in superman, but it had too many smallville elements in it for me to hail it as the best and as a person whos first exposure to supes was the Donner fimms. This is the origin for me

#13 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1255 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler said:

@Gambit1024 said:

Meh, don't worry about it. Birthright was a million times better anyway.

Yes it was. Secret Origin was boring as fudge.

Agreed

#14 Posted by ShowboatingPenguin (149 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess I'm the only one who likes Secret Origin...

#15 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

@ShowboatingPenguin said:

I guess I'm the only one who likes Secret Origin...

I like it to.

#16 Posted by Wolfrazer (7672 posts) - - Show Bio

So...how does one redo Superman's story anyway?...Like what changes, could there possibly be? Or is it just more like minor changes and added stuff?

#17 Edited by HeroFromKrypton (25 posts) - - Show Bio

@Wolfrazer said:

So...how does one redo Superman's story anyway?...Like what changes, could there possibly be? Or is it just more like minor changes and added stuff?

The basics remain, but details such as whether the Kents live to see their son reach adulthood or become Superman or whether Superman had a career as Superboy as a teen change. One significant difference in the New 52 origin is in his first year as Superman, he can't fly and his strength and durability are greatly reduced, closer to golden age levels. In previous versions, Superman's powers are mostly developed by the time he first takes on the name.

#18 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22965 posts) - - Show Bio

@Eternal19 said:

@ShowboatingPenguin said:

I guess I'm the only one who likes Secret Origin...

I like it to.

me too the art work is great

#19 Edited by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - - Show Bio

Johns is only part of the bigger DC elite, Geoff is only one person of the big group of DC Illuminati driving the Universe forward for the next 30 years. Jim Lee, Dan DiDio, Rags Morales, Grant Morrison and Geoff Johns are making the decisions together, its a team of people like you have a presidency with political advisers, economic advisers, war councilors and vice presidents....many people have a say in decisions. People like to blame problems on one face which is why everyone flamed Obama, Bush or Bendis, its human nature to try and blame a problem on one single person.

Why did Batman and GL stay in continuity while the rest of DC was reset? That's because the powerful writers at DC hate the continuity behind Wonder Woman, Superman etc and they only enjoy Batman and Green Lantern comics. Of course the lawsuits against Superman copyright wasn't helping either

#20 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2215 posts) - - Show Bio

What gives you the impression that out of all of DC's staff, Rags Morales has any significant input on anything other than the immediate title he's working on?

It's Lee, Didio, and Johns. They just so happen to let Morrison do whatever the hell he wants because he has that kind of clout.

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