What the hell?

#1 Posted by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio

Potential spoilers for Forever evil ahead,according to Bleeding Cool:

And while on the DC Earth, Wonder Woman has begun a relationship with Superman, on Earth-3 it goes further – Superwoman is pregnant… either by Ultraman or Owlman.

#2 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry...what?!

#3 Posted by ColaNicole (586 posts) - - Show Bio

I fail to see the point. Who cares what happens on Earth 3.

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#4 Edited by Wolverine08 (42183 posts) - - Show Bio

LMAO!

#5 Edited by SanoHibiki (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

As long as

1 there wouldn’t be some “Miracle Child”-plotline

2 this is not 52-Universe version of Lor-Zod

I don’t really care.

#6 Edited by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio

I fail to see the point. Who cares what happens on Earth 3.

Those Earth-3 characters are about to migrate to Earth-0 ofcourse it matters,heck it might even be central to the plot.

I'm sorry...what?!

LOL.

#7 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio
#8 Edited by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

#9 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Who cares about Ultraman? it's not like HE is actually superman so why would they be enraged?

#10 Posted by Squalleon (4609 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Owlman and Superwoman were always having a relationship behind Ultraman's back with Ultraman actually know it!? I don't see why anyone should be angry. It would be completely faithful to their lore.

#11 Edited by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Who cares about Ultraman? it's not like HE is actually superman so why would they be enraged?

Because of the uncertainty,who knows maybe DC will do something similar with Batman and Diana?

#12 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Who cares about Ultraman? it's not like HE is actually superman so why would they be enraged?

Because of the uncertainty,who knows maybe DC will do something similar with Batman and Diana?

How about NO!

That would be terrible.

#13 Posted by Wolverine08 (42183 posts) - - Show Bio

Superwoman is one slutty lady. She has two men who can possibly have impregnanted her. We need Maury for a DNA test!

#14 Posted by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by entropy_aegis (15316 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Edited by TheAcidSkull (18032 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Edited by Lvenger (19854 posts) - - Show Bio

(Sigh) Johns is really losing credibility in my eyes now as a decent writer.

#19 Edited by darknightspideyfanboy (1262 posts) - - Show Bio

#20 Edited by HelenaBortinelly (24 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by TDK_1997 (14891 posts) - - Show Bio

Johns used to be a good writer but I have no idea what happened to him.

#22 Edited by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

(Sigh) Johns is really losing credibility in my eyes now as a decent writer.

He should have been losing credibility when GL: Rebirth came out. When Flash: Rebirth came out, his credibility should have been dead.

Catch up, mate :P

@tdk_1997 said:

Johns used to be a good writer but I have no idea what happened to him.

What happens to them all. Ego. It stops being about creating good stories for characters, and becomes about changing the stories and characters to suit their idea of how they should be.

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Superman fans are always angry about something.

#23 Edited by w0nd (3389 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Who cares about Ultraman? it's not like HE is actually superman so why would they be enraged?

Because of the uncertainty,who knows maybe DC will do something similar with Batman and Diana?

Well Wonder Woman is Not juggling Superman and Batman, so that right there is one big difference, and 2 Superwoman is lois lane. I don't know what you are scared about exactly? something on an alternate reality happens means it will happen in the main universe as well? Are you scared of what's happening on earth 2 also?

Ultraman Superwoman and Owl man are soooo different that you can't even compare the two worlds

#24 Posted by consolemaster001 (5569 posts) - - Show Bio

I......WHAT THE F***

#25 Edited by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: Apparently Superman is also a candidate...LOL jk. Could you imagine?

#26 Posted by TDK_1997 (14891 posts) - - Show Bio

@tdk_1997 said:

Johns used to be a good writer but I have no idea what happened to him.

What happens to them all. Ego. It stops being about creating good stories for characters, and becomes about changing the stories and characters to suit their idea of how they should be.

I guess that's it.Ego destroys every writer.

#27 Edited by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

(Sigh) Johns is really losing credibility in my eyes now as a decent writer.

He should have been losing credibility when GL: Rebirth came out. When Flash: Rebirth came out, his credibility should have been dead.

Catch up, mate :P

@tdk_1997 said:

Johns used to be a good writer but I have no idea what happened to him.

What happens to them all. Ego. It stops being about creating good stories for characters, and becomes about changing the stories and characters to suit their idea of how they should be.

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Superman fans are always angry about something.

That applies to you too fade :P

#28 Edited by TheAmazingImmortalMan (3110 posts) - - Show Bio

its neither Johnny Quick is the father.....

#29 Posted by SanoHibiki (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

Can anyone give a link to this erm … spoilers?

P.S. Since Superwoman is basically Lois Lane (even if she evil Amazon from different reality), its good thing that Clark currently dating Diana.

#30 Posted by toplel (917 posts) - - Show Bio

P.S. Since Superwoman is basically Lois Lane (even if she evil Amazon from different reality), its good thing that Clark currently dating Diana.

Nice going there, equating a cheating, villainous Amazon to Lois.

#31 Edited by SanoHibiki (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel:

1 That part of my post was intended as joke.

2 I don’t know which origins would be used in New-52 Universe. For all I know Superwoman would be based on Mary Marvel.

3 In Pre-52 Universe members of Crime Syndicate were often reversed images of Justice League’s members, with exaggerated personality flows. So, if writers managed to warp Superman ( alien , born in another galaxy , boy-scout, do-gooder, smart) into Ultraman ( human, altered by aliens, sadist, villain, kind of dumb), they also managed to turn Lois into that cheating evil Amazon.

#32 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

@sandman_ said:

@fadetoblackbolt said:

@lvenger said:

(Sigh) Johns is really losing credibility in my eyes now as a decent writer.

He should have been losing credibility when GL: Rebirth came out. When Flash: Rebirth came out, his credibility should have been dead.

Catch up, mate :P

@tdk_1997 said:

Johns used to be a good writer but I have no idea what happened to him.

What happens to them all. Ego. It stops being about creating good stories for characters, and becomes about changing the stories and characters to suit their idea of how they should be.

@entropy_aegis said:

@theacidskull said:

@entropy_aegis: i don't know how to respond to that news.

If Owlman turns out to be the daddy expect enraged Superman fans.

Superman fans are always angry about something.

That applies to you too fade :P

Nah, me being angry all the time is independent of me being a Superman fan :P

#33 Posted by toplel (917 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel:

1 That part of my post was intended as joke.

2 I don’t know which origins would be used in New-52 Universe. For all I know Superwoman would be based on Mary Marvel.

3 In Pre-52 Universe members of Crime Syndicate were often reversed images of Justice League’s members, with exaggerated personality flows. So, if writers managed to warp Superman ( alien , born in another galaxy , boy-scout, do-gooder, smart) into Ultraman ( human, altered by aliens, sadist, villain, kind of dumb), they also managed to turn Lois into that cheating evil Amazon.

It was a pretty bad joke then. Besides, cheating evil Amazon sounds more like a reversed image of WW more than Lois (Amazon, Themyscira, an all female isolationist warrior society, remember?)

#34 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

You know, the more I enter a DC thread, the more confused/wary I become.

#35 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

You know, the more I enter a DC thread, the more confused/wary I become.

Don't fear DC.

I'm everywhere.

Fear everything O_O

#36 Edited by Saren (25674 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, why is this so shocking? Superwoman's been cheating on Ultraman with Owlman since Morrison's Earth-2 way back when. Other writers who wrote the Crime Syndicate (Busiek in Trinity and Syndicate Rules and Robinson in Omega) retained that dynamic. So what's the problem with Johns taking it one step further with the ambiguous pregnancy?

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#37 Edited by SanoHibiki (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

@toplel:

It was a pretty bad joke then.

You probably right. Sorry for that. My English is self-taught, so when I need to understand what someone says – no problem, but when I want to put my thoughts into worlds and gave them some humorous or sarcastic feeling – then this is instant epic fail for me.

Besides, cheating evil Amazon sounds more like a reversed image of WW more than Lois (Amazon, Themyscira, an all female isolationist warrior society, remember?)

Before saying anything further – all my knowledge about Superwoman based on her Pre-52 incarnation.

If while identifying character take in consideration only place of birth, then yes, Superwoman can be reversed Wonder Woman. But then we know that Superwoman can use heat vision, and this is usually kryptonian ability. And so we can also guess that she is Last Daughter of Krypton on the Earth 3, which landed on Themyscira and grow up later as villain. So we need something more then just place of origin.

In comics Superwoman created for herself secret identity. Except being world conqueror, she worked in Daily Planet as reporter (later as editor) under name Lois Lane. In beginning she was attracted to space explorer Clark Kent (who is Ultraman).And so on.

Its established fact that Superwoman is corrupted version of Lois Lane with elements from Wonder Woman’s origins. Originally all of it was happening in Antimatter Universe, later this universe and Earth 3 became separated, but still Superwoman portrayed as counterplant to Lois, not to Diana ( except in Crisis on 2 Earths, that Superwoman were based on Mary Batson).

#38 Edited by Squalleon (4609 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane: Because it is Geoff Johns AND we must hate him!
Seriously though this guy starts to get hate even when he writes something good :-P

I don't see the problem here it's Superwoman she has taken almost every president and ruler of earth 3 a pregnancy is where you guys draw the line?

#39 Posted by SmashBrawler (5731 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone explain to me what's so wrong about this? It's not an amazing idea but I wouldn't call it terrible either.

#40 Posted by dondave (37378 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone explain to me what's so wrong about this? It's not an amazing idea but I wouldn't call it terrible either.

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#41 Posted by Nerd Of A Hero (877 posts) - - Show Bio

Potential spoilers for Forever evil ahead,according to Bleeding Cool:

And while on the DC Earth, Wonder Woman has begun a relationship with Superman, on Earth-3 it goes further – Superwoman is pregnant… either by Ultraman or Owlman.

And there, sir, is your answer.

#42 Posted by lykopis (10746 posts) - - Show Bio

@lykopis said:

You know, the more I enter a DC thread, the more confused/wary I become.

Don't fear DC.

I'm everywhere.

Fear everything O_O

**yawn**

Sorry, you said something?

#43 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how this ruins the story for people

#44 Posted by Ostyo (7851 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Posted by TheFirstLantern (1505 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how this ruins the story for people

#46 Posted by justice teen (460 posts) - - Show Bio

she already had a baby. You sure this a spoiler and not talking about past issues?

#47 Posted by Black_Claw (2987 posts) - - Show Bio

So.... Does Maury exist in the DCU by any chance?

#48 Posted by Black_Arrow (3136 posts) - - Show Bio

So.... Does Maury exist in the DCU by any chance?

If he says you are not the father Ultraman except heat vision

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