@frozen said:
Well, the argument can be made either way. We know Wonder Woman is weaker than Superman, so he is pulling more than her. Then you have MMH using four arms and one can take that as him either pulling more, or needing some extra arms to pull his weight among the three. We know his strength feats, besides that, don't stack up to Supermans but he is usually portrayed as being on Supermans level. So, it's really just how you take it. I find it easier to just say they each pulled a third.
And no, that wouldn't be consistent. But Captain Marvel is notorious for jobbing in every conceivable way most of the time. He has 1st class strength and attributes but is usually treated as a 3rd class Superhero.
Well, I stand corrected then. I've only seen the Reeve Superman movies once each....actually, i've never seen IV lol
Captain Marvel has hurt Superman before and proved that he's equal in physical strength. Moreso, he's showed impressive feats. The best version of Captain Marvel was the Kingdom Come version (though Superman and Captain Marvel in that are far more powerful than the New Earth versions). If Manhunter was using 4 arms then I'd imagine he'd be pulling more, why would he need extra arms to pull his weight among the three? I thought he was stronger than Wonder Woman?
Yes he is, but that's more due to the circumstances he finds himself in. Alex Ross wrote him best.
IV was the worst, but again, he showed ridiculous feats.
Yes, I know which is why I said he has 1st-class powers but is treated as a 3rd-Class hero. His impressive feats are actually few and far between. Even in his +30 appearances in JSA, he hardly does anything of true note (strength, speed, magic, durability feats), whereas his anti-hero/villain counterpart Black Adam does. Also, he's never exactly 'proved' he was as strong as Superman, it was just acknowledged that he is. MMH on other hand has neither proved equal strength or had the acknowledgment of such. People say he is stronger due to his shape-shifting/mass increasing abilities which only plays into my theory above. The fact is that 2 handed, regular MMH has not been portrayed as physically stronger than Superman ever...as far as I know. And if I had to rank the three, it would be Superman, Wonder Woman, then Martian Manhunter in that order.
Yeah, Kingdom Come Captain Marvel was the best incarnation of him so far.
He was treated like a 3rd-class hero, but he has had impressive feats, though it'd take me a while to dig. Regarding the Superman family, I think he'd beat Supergirl but not Superman himself. How is Wonder Woman stronger than Martian Manhunter? Martian Manhunter does have other abilities but his strength level has always
I was under the impression that John's physical strength was always near Superman's level, two-handed.
I (think) that Martian Manhunter's shape-shifting works on a molecular level, if so then he can shape new arms and carry the strength over? The scan I've seen seems that John is using his powers to the fullest of his abilities, so he's actually helping Superman and Wonder Woman to pull it.
I can understand your ranking, I think John hasn't had Superman's strength feats because he doesn't need them - in a one vs one fight, John would beat Superman due to external powers. I don't think the strength difference is a large one, at best John could be stronger than Wonder Woman.
Yes, Kingdom Come Superman was the best Superman too IMO.
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