The DEFINITIVE Superman

Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

As often happens, my comic addled brain was thinking on those wacky creations we laughingly refer to as 'super heroes' the other day and i got to thinking about their definitive moment. I mean, if i had to choose one moment that, for me, would be the single moment i would use to show someone else and say, 'there... that's what that character means to me and that's why i read comics' what would it be? I thought maybe there would be one definitive moment for all heroes, but it was just too much damned fun to think on them all individually. I thought i'd share my first (maybe of many) definitive moments with this guy;

Obvious, I know, but what better place to start?

Let's face it, he's the original, the most known, the beating heart of mainstream comicdom and without his spit curled, insanely powerful self, comics wouldn't be what they are today (and you can take that any way you want to). Yet, for a character just shy of being eighty years old, how do you pick a defining moment?

THE CHARACTER

Born on Krypton, hurtled toward earth while his planet was destroyed in a catastrophic explosion, discovered by simple folk, raised of value and spends his spare time saving the world and being slightly superior to us all. Let's face it, even the most vehemently opposed to comics could reel off the history of Superman without even thinking about it. Yet he has lasted for 79 years and though his popularity may dip and wane at times, he remains an icon, a legend. Why does he maintain his hold on the publics imagination? Well, we all have our theories, i'm sure but for me it's two things.

a. Super powers. Let's face it, as a kid, it was all you aspired to. I mean, what else are you going to be? Superman can do everything. Anything. He is hte all in one, no need to shop twice stop for superpowers. Simple.

b. We haven't caught up with him yet. When Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster invented Superman, they created something that was beyond most peoples imaginings, something so wonderful and fantastical that it became the breakthrough hit that launched a million comics and rightfully so. In this day and age, where so much is jaded and cynical, Superman is still an amazing and magical concept, not just the powers which still defy belief, but the character himself; the undying optimism, unbreakable spirit and selfless heroism which, while much criticised, marks Superman as something unique. Many now balk at the idea that someone could be so noble and pure... heroic i think they used to call it. Yet as comics become increasingly dark and violent, as heroes become that much more like the dystopian visions presented in stories like Kingdom Come, Superman remains a light. He is unchanging in his purpose; to help those who need it. To aid those not as blessed, and it's that quality, that real heroism that brought me to my defining moment.

THE DEFINING MOMENT

Blink and you might have missed it. Sure, we all know that Grant Morrisons' ALL STAR SUPERMAN is an amazing story, filled with amazing moments that seemed to crystallize Superman down to his essence. But there was one little moment that for me defined the character.

Issue 10. Page 13.

It was such a throw away moment, superfluous to the over riding arc of the story, but there it was; massive, unimaginable power turned to the simple, unnoticed act of saving a young girls life, not by lifting a mountain or smacking Brainac one MILLION in the teeth, but by simple kindness and attention.

That's Superman to me.

Humanity. Grace. A person beyond our people showing us how our people should act.

He is a bastion of our spirit, a reminder of all that could be good in this world.

Superman.

So please let me know, what do yo consider Superman's definitive moment?

#1 Posted by azza04 (1503 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome blog!! Not sure what moment i would choose.

#2 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome indeed...Well...I'm not sure...I have to think

#3 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

To me, Superman's defining moment was:

Superman could've said anything. ANYTHING. But his choice for his final words were used to make sure if everyone was ok. Idk why, but that moment, more so than any other moment, made him seem more heroic to me.

#4 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (403 posts) - - Show Bio

Pulling the heart out of Mageddon. When everyone is defeated, Superman is the guy for the job.

#5 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: It was a pretty close call with picking this moment too Gambit. It definitely is up there and in the purely SUPER heroic stakes i would probably say it is definitely Superman's defining moment. It doesn't get much cooler than a hero making the ultimate sacrifice, purely for the safety of others.

#6 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Man of Tomorrow said:

Pulling the heart out of Mageddon. When everyone is defeated, Superman is the guy for the job.

I am just about to read Grant Morrison' run on JLA (which i think has the moment you're talking about in it) as i haven't fully read it yet. Sounds like a brilliant moment.

#7 Posted by NX (307 posts) - - Show Bio

yea supermans a great character,but not my favorite of course.

#8 Edited by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@NX: Same here. But when i thought of whose definitive moment should be the first i just couldn't go past him.

#9 Posted by joshmightbe (24599 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
#11 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: That's a pretty amazing moment fade to black bolt. I've never been a huge fan of Joe Kelly but maybe i'll give his Superman run a chance.

@joshmightbe: BWAHAHAHAH! I've changed my mind! I'm with you joshmightbe! THAT'S the definitive Superman moment!

#12 Posted by TheCrowbar (4286 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not in the comics but when he cried at Dan Turpin's death and the scene right after it. All that power and he was still powerless. What he did though was remind us of our courage which is what saved humanity in the end (And New Genesis)

#13 Posted by Darkmount1 (1269 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheCrowbar: That was from the Superman: The Animated Series episode "Apokolips...Now!" Part 2. Believe it or not, there was originally going to be appearances at Dan Turpin's funeral by some of his Marvel creations--Nick Fury, three of the Fantastic Four, and a few others, plus Stan Lee and Jim Steranko. Of course, it got cut out.

#14 Posted by crestfallen (298 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:
HA, HA, HA!!!! YEAH!!!! ;)
#15 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@Darkmount1 said:

@TheCrowbar: That was from the Superman: The Animated Series episode "Apokolips...Now!" Part 2. Believe it or not, there was originally going to be appearances at Dan Turpin's funeral by some of his Marvel creations--Nick Fury, three of the Fantastic Four, and a few others, plus Stan Lee and Jim Steranko. Of course, it got cut out.

Aw man, i'd love to have Steranko at my funeral. That's the only way to die!

#16 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt said:









This is the moment. The definitive moment.

#17 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc: I love that comic so much.  
 
Did you hear that's going to be the next DC Animated film after JL: Doom? I'm so psyched.  
#18 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

@FadeToBlackBolt: No, I hadn't heard. I'm excited now, too.

#19 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

To me, Superman's defining moment was:

Off-topic: I just realized this. Did Lois let Superman's corpse fall into rubble?!?!? She was hugging him and the next thing you know he's lying flat... Not even flat. His head is falling backwards! That's just coooooold!!!!

#20 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

All very good ones, I'd like to add the moment from the New Krypton saga when Kal-el was to face execution, and had the chance to escape, but instead sat waiting in his cell for his judgement, and because of this was relieved of all charges.

#22 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool

#23 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: I gotta say Primmaster64, that one ran a close second. I absolutely loved that moment, no powers getting down and dirty in the face of everything Superman isn't Got to LOVE that Superbrat Prime! Whatever is said, i just think he's a great villain. Oh, and congrats on your Community Star recognition. Well deserved!

#24 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@feebadger: Thanks my friend!
#25 Posted by kimeraevet (188 posts) - - Show Bio

@feebadger: I hadn't remembered that scene, but it was a very emotionally touching one.

#26 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64 said:

This is the definitive Superman.

Thanks, Primmaster64.

#27 Posted by The Stegman (23031 posts) - - Show Bio

 
  

 
this ^^^ 
 
 
but on a serious note...this pretty much sums up what Superman is all about,   
 
 
 
 
He helps people in whatever ways he can, and that means not always using your muscle to swoop in and pummel bad guys, in this issue (Superman #701)  he literally waited for hours for the girl to calm down enough to talk to him, then talked her into not killing herself, i can't think of ANY other hero who would do that, most would just go in and force her off the ledge and call it a day, in the end Superman is more than just a superhero, he inspires hope, he is what man should strive to be like, he's an icon.
#28 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@PowerHerc said:

@Primmaster64 said:

This is the definitive Superman.

Thanks, Primmaster64.

:D No probl sir.
#29 Posted by tensor (3866 posts) - - Show Bio

nice post

#30 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I haven't read that issue but it looks great and surprisingly similar to the moment i chose too. I agree that it's these moments that show that Superman is more than just a hero, he's an icon.

@tensor: why, thank you, sir.

#31 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

@crestfallen said:

@joshmightbe said:
HA, HA, HA!!!! YEAH!!!! ;)

LMAO :D

#32 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio
@RedOwl_1 said:

@crestfallen said:

@joshmightbe said:
HA, HA, HA!!!! YEAH!!!! ;)

LMAO :D

yep its hilarious
#33 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumping this in anticipation of more DEFINITIVE articles to come.

#34 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (881 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

To me, Superman's defining moment was:

Superman could've said anything. ANYTHING. But his choice for his final words were used to make sure if everyone was ok. Idk why, but that moment, more so than any other moment, made him seem more heroic to me.

I haven't read that book so I don't know the backstory but why does Superman look so small?

#35 Posted by PowerHerc (81602 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman's definitive moment might well be yet to come.

#36 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@G_Money_Christmas: Baaaad art. And why had Lois just dropped him like that? The man's dead! Could probably use a hand!

@PowerHerc: Absolutely and i really hope so. Should do a prospective definitive series for characters.

#37 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
This right here.
#38 Posted by Vilai (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primmaster64 said:

hey trying to add to my superman collection this sounds like a GREAT read what issue or story is this. Thanks in advance.

#39 Posted by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vilai: That would be from the Infinite Crisis mini series by Geoff Johns and a bunch of amazing artists. This particular section is from issue 7 if memory serves. A great follow up to Crisis On Infinite Earths.

#40 Edited by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman's defining moment:

#41 Edited by feebadger (1436 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad: The world is a cruel place for a Superman...

#42 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (881 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been collecting all the Superman stuff from the New 52 as I have just recently become a fan of him but thanks to this and a couple other threads, you guys have given me a lot of books to look for that seem to be better than what they're putting out now. So thank you

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