Okay so I've been reading Superman/Batman, the New 52 version. The first arc has New 52 Supes and Bats meeting Earth 2 Superman and Batman. The only two characters I've seen in the New 52 who behave and act exactly like their pre-New 52 counterparts. The characters I wanted to have their OWN series!!!!! Have been officially replaced with the darker, ruthless, and dangerous, main universe New 52 versions. This all happened in Superman/Batman. The only reason I was reading it was because I wanted to experience the GOOD Superman and Batman. This is what happened.

Some being from Apokolips, they never said who it was and I didn't recognize it, had pulled N52 Supes and Bats to the Earth 2 universe. And then after fighting off some villains the Apokoliptian said that it approves of the N52 Superman and Batman. Saying, and I quote,

"Ruthless, raw and dangerous"

So yeah!! The New 52 Superman and Batman are ENDORSED BY APOKOLIPS!!!! AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT FINDS THIS UNSETTLING?!?!? DC IS OUTRIGHT SAYING AND CONFIRMING THAT THE DARKER, EDGIER, AND BLATANTLY 90'S STYLED SUPERMAN AND BATMAN ARE BETTER THAN THE VERSIONS OF THEM THAT ARE IN NEARLY EVER FACET THEIR PRE-NEW 52 SELVES!!!

And believe it or not. That scene wasn't the worst. Oh no. They went FURTHER!! It's the scene that takes place AFTER the first one is what ticked me off the most. That officially killed any tiny shred of faith I had in DC's comics division.

Earth 2 Superman. The Superman that was in fact the living reincarnation of pre-New 52 Superman. The Superman that SHOULD have been the mainstream Superman in the reboot............ CONDONES THE NEW 52 SUPERMAN!!! HE CONDONES THE CLEARLY RECKLESS, AGGRESSIVE AND DANGEROUS PERSON WHO HAS ALL OF HIS POWERS!!!

So yeah............... To those at DC?

Kind of an overreaction if you ask me...

@jldoom: I'm already going through the idiotic darker fake Spider-Man over at Marvel. This is just DC hopping on the bandwagon and trying to condone the way they are portraying their mainstream Superman by having one that's basically the Superman everyone already knows and loves and grew up with, saying that this new Superman who's clearly a loose cannon is doing a good job. He even calls him DANGEROUS!!!

I think DC doesn't even care about their old universe anymore. Sooner or later they may make a statement in their comic in which they might make a shot against the old universe and say something like "out with the old,in with the new" or something like that. They are never going back to the old universe,the dye has definitely been cast.

I only read the new 52 stuff for events that seem slightly interesting,like Trinity War (it looks interesting,so I just wanna see how it is). It still has some fun stories (like the Batman stuff),but overall...I don't like it.

At the same time,the old universe had many many many many many many faults,especially near the end where it seemed as if DC stopped trying,so maybe they could do a partial reboot,but only keep the good/essential parts.

One of the things I liked was the depowerment of the Flash. He was so powerful in the old universe that it made no sense for him to even have enemies.

@smart_dork_dude: I still think you should calm down, man. It's not worth it. I haven't even read the story, I'm just saying it's not worth getting worked up about.

@cameron83: It's just things like this where I cannot HELP but complain and voice my opinion on it.

As for DC towards the end? Yeah I admit, it was FAR from perfect. However it only got that messed up due to things like Amazons Attack, Countdown(Which was just stupidity personified and had NOTHING to do with Infinite Crisis), and Cry for Justice. Yeah they should have rebooted. Rebooted in the sense of removing all the clutter of those horrible events, while leaving everything basically the same. To unburden the universe so it would have a cleaner and fresher feel to it.

It's funny because those were the exact events I was referring to :)

@smart_dork_dude: I agree with your entire post...I even said something similar to it after the last issue

@mitran: I agree with you on that and didn't Kaiyo wanted to stop darkseid in the first place ?

@mitran: That's right and it said it in Darkseid villains month book too if I remember.

This is sooooooooooo interesting.

I would think it would be actually exiting for a Pre52 fan because it hints at where Greg Pak wants to take the character in his future run. He is reminding his younger self that at the core he is the same person and that he can choose to be better.

These were basically my thoughts on the issue.

I agree with the previous posters.

I concur.

My thoughts:

The point (IMO) was that the younger versions of Clark & Bruce would one day live up to the high standards set by their older and more mature Earth 2 counterparts. Superman showed glimpses when he saved E2 Lois and Catwoman.

Just my 2 cents.

Dude just be quite and stop moaning. You people wanted a younger non boys out superman who was not married to lois lane and now that you have it you hate it. If this is how you react just stop reading comics.

You do know that this was both Bruce and Clark at their earliest right? I mean, it essentially reflects perfectly with how Grant Morrison wrote Clark in Action Comics two years back. Take a deep breath and relax mate.

@z3ro180: I didn't want that

@smart_dork_dude: yeah sure

@z3ro180: Lets give him the benefit of the doubt. Some people dont want any change ever. They want the same story over and over and over again. Its exiting to them. Kind of like my mom and those damn tele novelas (mexican soap operas)

@saint_rog_el: Name one instance where there's a story for the New 52 Superman that couldn't have been done without it being the classic Superman? If anything we are getting the same stories over and over again NOW because of this stupid reboot as they keep having to go over things that already happened!!!!!!!

@smart_dork_dude: All of Morrison's run hinged on the fact Superman was younger and depowered, as did JL: Origins and Batman/Superman. Additionally Lobdell's He'll on Earth storlline also hinged in Krypton being different from its pre-52 version. Superman Unchained is actually the only major storyline that I could see happening Pre-52.