Superman vs Goku Death Battle....

#1 Posted by HushoftheWind (256 posts) - 4 months, 14 days ago - Show Bio

And i agree with the results

http://www.screwattack.com/shows/originals/death-battle/death-battle-goku-vs-superman

#2 Posted by LifeShaver (41 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Since it was all about on-panel feats. Then I agree too

#3 Posted by Birthright (96 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

Good fight but the could have used characters so much more effectively

#4 Posted by Z3RO180 (3815 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

I completely agree this battle was worth the wait

#5 Posted by Teerack (2948 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

I agree with it but at the same time i think they should off like considered the fact Goku and Superman don't want to kill anyone while fighting.

#6 Posted by Eternal19 (1422 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

It would be better if they just stuck to one version of supes. Preferrably the post-crisis one

#7 Posted by Icon (2023 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

I can't imagine Supes letting the world be destroyed like that but overall I am happy with the outcome. XD

#8 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Icon: One of the rules about death battles is that all character morals are lifted for the battle. Characters basically fight with morals off and that's what Superman was doing in the fight.

#9 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Teerack: Refer to my first post here in answer to your point about Superman and Goku not caring about destroying the Earth.

#10 Posted by Icon (2023 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Lvenger: I originally thought it just meant that it was a battle to the death, not that all morals are off, so to speak. But you're right and it makes sense in context. It's just a little odd as a Superman fan and understanding what drives him to see him blowing up Earth. :p

#11 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

@Icon: Well it's all an restraints off battle hence the fact Superman is willing to do what's necessary to end the fight. But I have to admit seeing Superman act all brutal in this fight was quite a change to say the least :P

#12 Posted by drgnx (2584 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

/Closes eyes and covers ears

GOKU WINS!!!!

Good breakdown, made sense

#13 Posted by Smart_Dork_Dude (1896 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

My thoughts?

#14 Posted by Kal'smahboi (2780 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

I was skeptical at first. I honestly thought that Goku was going to win. These guys don't mess around though. I'm glad Supes won :)

#15 Posted by saoakden (587 posts) - 4 months, 13 days ago - Show Bio

It was an awesome battle! My favorite Death Battle to date!

#16 Posted by lachydotc (28 posts) - 4 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

Good video I think it was put together well

#17 Posted by HeroFromKrypton (21 posts) - 4 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

@Eternal19 said:

It would be better if they just stuck to one version of supes. Preferrably the post-crisis one

If it's the version that can push Warworld, sure.

#18 Posted by Lvenger (8228 posts) - 4 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

@Eternal19 said:

It would be better if they just stuck to one version of supes. Preferrably the post-crisis one

True their use of All Star Superman was a tad off but post crisis could still move the Earth by himself and shove Pluto through a Boom Tube after sun dipping. He also has nano second reaction times, is durable enough to withstand planet busting and supernova blasts plus he's a better strategist than Goku. Not in terms of combat but in terms of brain lobotomies and having to invent new tactics to defeat a revolving rogues gallery. Sure they got some things wrong but the evidence that was sound showed why Superman would win the fight.

#19 Posted by zeejaybay (54 posts) - 4 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

I wish they would have used better fight choreography and animation but the music and research was outstanding. I loved the epilogue at the end explaining both their appeal, it was oddly moving. Overall it was absurdly well made.

#20 Posted by SandMan_ (2407 posts) - 4 months, 12 days ago - Show Bio

I don't know....It would have been cool to end it with a draw....But at least Supes won, but I would have been equally ok if Goku won.

#21 Posted by toptom (626 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

that is an amazing video! though i believe that thay have made some "errors" as: exposing superman to k-nite and magic..even if goku has never used his power pole in the whole dragonbal z...or letting goku being ss4 and even using khaioken in that form.

but they has made superman capable to stop a khamea x 10 with his heat vision...which is just absurd. his heat vision is hotter than the sun but it has not the power to destroy planets.

however i agree with the result,and..... i just loved the fight.

#22 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (916 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

I think it was very well done and hope that after everyone's watched it we can finally put this vs fight to rest.

#23 Edited by Skunkstein (548 posts) - 4 months, 11 days ago - Show Bio

@toptom said:

that is an amazing video! though i believe that thay have made some "errors" as: exposing superman to k-nite and magic..even if goku has never used his power pole in the whole dragonbal z...or letting goku being ss4 and even using khaioken in that form.
but they has made superman capable to stop a khamea x 10 with his heat vision...which is just absurd. his heat vision is hotter than the sun but it has not the power to destroy planets.
however i agree with the result,and..... i just loved the fight.

It have been stated that Supermans heatvision have the potential to destroy planets - plus he didnt really stop it, he just slowed it down for a few seconds before he was pushed back into the sun.

#24 Posted by toptom (626 posts) - 4 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@Skunkstein said:

@toptom said:
that is an amazing video! though i believe that thay have made some "errors" as: exposing superman to k-nite and magic..even if goku has never used his power pole in the whole dragonbal z...or letting goku being ss4 and even using khaioken in that form.
but they has made superman capable to stop a khamea x 10 with his heat vision...which is just absurd. his heat vision is hotter than the sun but it has not the power to destroy planets.
however i agree with the result,and..... i just loved the fight.
It have been stated that Supermans heatvision have the potential to destroy planets - plus he didnt really stop it, he just slowed it down for a few seconds before he was pushed back into the sun.

it was never stated in comics that superman's heat vision is capable of destroying a planet. however in the video he has stopped a x 10 kameah,then goku has just used kaioken in ss4 pushing supes into the sun..which is the greatest error he has ever made.

#25 Posted by jobbernos (1372 posts) - 4 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

superman wins effortlessly.

#26 Posted by BurningFlame (15 posts) - 4 months, 6 days ago - Show Bio

It was an excellent battle. Mind you, there are a few things that could have been executed a little better, but overall it was awesome

#27 Posted by StMichalofWilson (2421 posts) - 4 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude said:

My thoughts?

LOL!!!

#28 Posted by ComicStooge (5321 posts) - 4 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@Skunkstein said:
@toptom said:
that is an amazing video! though i believe that thay have made some "errors" as: exposing superman to k-nite and magic..even if goku has never used his power pole in the whole dragonbal z...or letting goku being ss4 and even using khaioken in that form.
but they has made superman capable to stop a khamea x 10 with his heat vision...which is just absurd. his heat vision is hotter than the sun but it has not the power to destroy planets.
however i agree with the result,and..... i just loved the fight.
It have been stated that Supermans heatvision have the potential to destroy planets - plus he didnt really stop it, he just slowed it down for a few seconds before he was pushed back into the sun.
it was never stated in comics that superman's heat vision is capable of destroying a planet. however in the video he has stopped a x 10 kameah,then goku has just used kaioken in ss4 pushing supes into the sun..which is the greatest error he has ever made.

The battle is purely for entertainment purposes.

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#29 Posted by JayJayCAW (221 posts) - 4 months, 4 days ago - Show Bio

I love how this fight ended, being a fan of both character, I'd like to think I know what both characters are capable of. It was fun sitting there calling all the stats before it was mentioned by the commentators lol.

That being said..........the fight could have been better, on both sides, I get it was rushed and lets face it, this is fan made so they dont have the budget for a top of the line animation, end result I personally think would be the same, but yea it just seemed like both where held back.

#30 Posted by Devil_Driver (7 posts) - 4 months, 2 days ago - Show Bio

I ultimately agree that Superman would win the fight but I feel like a weaker version of Superman would have been more appropriate, he would still win but the battle would have perhaps been more interesting. Although kudos to Goku for holding out as long as he did, ultimately as a fan of both characters the right man won. Although I've been losing interest in Superman lately, mostly because I never feel like he is challenged, and ultimately he will always be "as strong as he needs to be" and I really find walking plot device types to be boring after a while. I will say though that I do currently enjoy the New 52 Superman and the encounter he had with Hellspont was enjoyable to read, it feels like he will eventually escalate into overpowered territory as he always does.

#31 Posted by Vaeternus (4024 posts) - 3 months, 29 days ago - Show Bio

I enjoyed it, thought they got it right for once

#32 Posted by HellothisisMary (1 posts) - 3 months, 27 days ago - Show Bio

I agree with the results of the battle, not because of the hilarious statistics and equations needed to find Goku's true power (honestly, it was written differently every time because Akira Toriyama pretty much did whatever he wanted, and so did the writers for Superman), but also because I don't even consider Super Saiyan 4 canon. Akira didn't have anything to do with Dragonball GT. Super Saiyan 4 was his idea originally, but he never really wrote it up fully.

Secondly, I always thought Superman would win, because when it comes right down to it, their power sources differ in availability. Superman has a nearly unlimited pool of energy from our sun. Goku is limited to his stores of Ki, or multiples of it. It's not even comparable.

It's almost an unfair fight, when you add Goku's naivete and quest for fairness. If he weren't so stubborn, he could have just stabbed Superman with the Kryptonite. Superman wasn't nearly as forgiving. He annihilated the Senzu beans Goku had as soon as he knew what they were. He wouldn't give an enemy a chance to win just for the sake of seeing their full power.

#33 Posted by Nightwing_1234 (95 posts) - 3 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

Superman benched the earth for 5 days= 14 septillion pounds. in five days non stop i estimate 250,000 reps.

then plug into formula

X times reps = Y

Y + initial weight= Max

140,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

x .03

----------------------------------------------

4.2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

x 250,000

------------------------------------------------------

1,050,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

+ 14,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

------------------------------------------------------

1,050,014,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

that is supermans max bench: 1 dectillion(spelling), 50 nonillion

#34 Posted by JakeN7 (777 posts) - 3 months, 26 days ago - Show Bio

@HellothisisMary said:

but also because I don't even consider Super Saiyan 4 canon. Akira didn't have anything to do with Dragonball GT. Super Saiyan 4 was his idea originally, but he never really wrote it up fully.

Actually...straight from Dragonball Wikia:

Toriyama's involvement and canon debate

"Akira Toriyama is credited as author in the ending credits of Dragon Ball GT; he oversaw the series' production, this was the same process that was used during the production of the anime series Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. He drew a rough design for the GT logo, he designed the GT appearance of the series main cast, and he designed the appearances of Giru and the GT spaceshipused in the Black Star Dragon Ball Saga. He also drew at least three color pictures of Goku, Pan, and Trunks adventuring on various planets (Monmaasu,Rudeeze, and an area in Hell).

Toriyama seems to have positive feelings towards his works' continuation, as he drew his own version of Super Saiyan 4Goku (which was originally designed by Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru) exclusively for the Dragon Box GT. Characters and events from GT have also been included in more recent Dragon Ball video games.

Despite these facts, some fans do not consider GT canon, most often claiming that the series was not directly written by Toriyama. GT was not originally produced as manga like its predecessors, Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z, and contains minor, rarely seen elements which are inconsistent with Dragon Ball Z. However, GT has the fewest inconsistencies of all three anime series, making it difficult to cite the few that exist as a reason for the series to be set aside as non-canon."

I bolded the the things I thought were the most important to consider.

I hate it when people assume GT isn't canon without even doing the research. It most certainly is canon and it's actually a great show. I own all the episodes of all three series (DB, DBZ, and DBGT.)

Superman

Rocketed to Earth as an infant from the doomed planet of Krypton, young Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind from oppression while championing truth, justice, and the American way!

Toriyama's involvement and canon debate

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