Smallville Season 11 Discussion

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#1 Edited by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

it's as simple as the title says...Every week I'm continually impressed with just how great Smallville Season 11 is and I repeatedly state it in other threads but I feel like I need to get this out there even more....Smallville Season 11 is easily the best Superman book on the "shelves" these days...this book is the way that Superman should be written all the time and it's not just a great Superman book...it's a great JLA book...heavily featuring Batman, Martian Manhunter, Green Arrow, and currently Bart Allen as Impulse...so far we've seen White Martians, the Black Racer, Jay Garrick, and a ton of other characters that simply couldn't have been done on the Smallville tv show...if you're like me and you're a big Superman fan who has been kind of upset with the way the New 52 Superman titles have been then you owe yourself the service of checking out the book...the nice thing is that if you want your weekly fix then you can check out the weekly digital releases or if you're not as impatient as I am then you can check out the monthly collected editions...either way you're in store for a great book

#2 Posted by darkman61288 (752 posts) - - Show Bio

I completely agree. I just can't wait till a Wonder woman appearance.

#3 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288 said:

I completely agree. I just can't wait till a Wonder woman appearance.

THIS^ n also that wld be fantastic!! this series is really great!!

#4 Posted by Z3RO180 (6588 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not really interested in smallville anymore mainly due to last season being an utter disappointment to me

#5 Posted by Skewer (325 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say its the best and I really don't care for smallville since the show was an utter disappointment to me. The title I enjoy the most right now is superman beyond.

#6 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: you should check it out....image Smallville with good writing and good special effects

#7 Posted by Z3RO180 (6588 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself:i think i might but not right away right now ive got way too much on my pull list .

#8 Posted by mpierce2690 (316 posts) - - Show Bio

It's definitely a lot better than I was expecting when it was announced.

#9 Edited by toptom (1181 posts) - - Show Bio

i just don't like the art in smallville

#10 Posted by Lvenger (20234 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: I have to disagree with you. Though it's true the comic can do a lot more with the story than Smallville ever could, it's just not written as well as what Morrison has in Action Comics. There's a dash of the GA attitude with a lot more emotion in Superman's character as well as Morrison's usual flair of story telling. That IMO is the best Superman title. Of course there's a chance Snyder and Lee can surpass it but for now, despite its critics, I feel Action Comics is the best Superman title.

#11 Posted by coolguyr99 (3019 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Superman has been the best title since Lobdell joined. Action Comics feels disjointed to me at the moment.

#12 Posted by ColaNicole (592 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Superman the most. Action comics leaves me scratching my head. I didn't bother reading smallville, the show was just badly acted and all over the place.

#13 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Hated the TV series with a passion. But yes, Smallville "season 11" is awesome.

But I still won't say it's the "best" title as of now. Superman and Action Comics still are better IMO. I mean c'mon. The current arcs are such page turners! H'El and Superdoom!

#14 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

Hated the TV series with a passion. But yes, Smallville "season 11" is awesome.

But I still won't say it's the "best" title as of now. Superman and Action Comics still are better IMO. I mean c'mon. The current arcs are such page turners! H'El and Superdoom!

I've been reading Action Comics but I just can't seem to like it as much as everyone else...to me it seems...I don't know what word I'm looking for here...mixed up? I guess that will work

I have enjoyed Lobdell's run on Superman more than any of the writers before him but it wasn't that big of a hurdle anyway

for me the Superman in Season 11 feels more like PreFlashpoint Superman and that's probably one of the reasons why I like it so much

the New 52 Superman no matter who is writing him just doesn't feel right to me

#15 Posted by darkman61288 (752 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: I feel that way about almost everycharacter.

#16 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree, imo Smallville Season 11 and Injustice GAU are as good as anything else DC has out right now.

#17 Posted by AllStarSuperman (21965 posts) - - Show Bio

smallville is sweet i dont like how they changed are every 4 issues though.

#18 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

now they've introduced Miss Martian.... I don't see how this book could possibly get any better

#19 Posted by The Stegman (24635 posts) - - Show Bio
I'm waiting for the trade
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#20 Posted by consolemaster001 (5659 posts) - - Show Bio

It should have continued as a show

#21 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001 said:

It should have continued as a show

they could never do what they're doing in the book on the show....so far they've introduced Hank Henshaw, Batman and Nightwing, Jay Garrick, Black Flash, Ms. Martian, and now what appears to be either just a Monitor or the Anti-Monitor....there's no way the show could have pulled all of this off

#22 Posted by darkman61288 (752 posts) - - Show Bio

How do think they would do Wonder Woman on the Show? They wont date each other because Clark is engaged to Lois. What would the story be? Who would be her romantic interest? Would it be Batman or someone else?

#23 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Would I be able to jump right into it?

#24 Edited by AllStarSuperman (21965 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so I'd recommend getting the trade which just came out @gambit1024

#25 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think so I'd recommend getting the trade which just came out @gambit1024

agreed....I'm pretty sure that they're getting ready for the "season finale" and that includes things that have been being hinted at since the beginning of the series....I'd say that you should either get the trade or get the printed issues

#26 Edited by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

I bought the first issue but never read it . I'll have to check it out.

#27 Posted by Ironhawk22 (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Totally agree. Month after month it impresses me. It's the only Superman book I'm currently reading. I like Morrison but Action didn't do much for me, and well I think I've expressed my feelings on Lobdell's writing before. Easily one of my favorite books.

#28 Edited by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

Totally agree. Month after month it impresses me. It's the only Superman book I'm currently reading. I like Morrison but Action didn't do much for me, and well I think I've expressed my feelings on Lobdell's writing before. Easily one of my favorite books.

I honestly think that I look forward to it each week more than any other book that I'm reading

#29 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

from Wondercon:

Onto Smallville. “When we left Kara in the TV series, she went into the future to get out of Clark’s way,” Miller says. “A Booster Gold mishap lands Clark and Booster in the 31st century,” where they’ll encounter the Legion of Super-Heroes, Supergirl and tell a version of the “World of New Krypton” story. Miller makes it clear that Supergirl will be wearing pants, “Because she flies around.”

#30 Posted by ltbrd (562 posts) - - Show Bio

i hate to agree with this, simply because its not the main Superman title, but I have to admit that the writing and direction of Smallville is much better than what is being put out in Action Comics and Superman to me. I would put Superman Beyond as a very close second. the only thing i wish Superman Beyond had done was use Conner instead of Clark. Clark could still be alive and kicking just as he is in the series now, but i would have been interested in seeing the Beyond team use an adult, pre-52 Conner as the Man of Steel and have Clark be a supporting character. we saw an adult Conner multiple times as an evil Superman, it would have been nice to see what could have been done with him as Superman's true successor as we saw in the single issue of Superman/Batman (of course, in that issue Damian was Batman so that future is gone now i guess). then the arcs could have moved between the two.

i realize that's not the popular opinion but as a Superman reader of 26 years the writing and storylines of AC and Superman up to this point have been hugely disappointing. i've been a fan of Morrison in the past, but his Action Comics run was far too much Morrison trying to be clever with the character's history than providing a good story. i think he got too full of himself following a great run with Batman prior to Final Crisis because he did such a good job using Batman's history. unfortunately, lightning doesn't always strike twice on an idea and to me that's the case with what he did on Action Comics. it tried to be ultra-old school and ultra-historical knowledge and failed.

as for the Superman series, i give it sympathy because for some reason DC couldn't give Superman that same level of respect as Batman and decided to change his history far more dramatically. so the writers have been trying to establish the new Superman and unfortunately its left the book feeling a bit underwhelming than it really should be. H'El could have been an awesome villain and story arc but was an immense let-down in execution. also think the idea of the bio-tech suit (which i'll actually okay with aside from wanting the belt to go back to yellow and not look so much like a Batman utility belt) has caused the book to go too far into the science fiction direction. Superman should represent the science fiction aspect of the Trinity, but what we are getting is to much Syfy channel saturday movie science fiction and not Orson Scott Card science fiction.

Smallville, despite continuing from a disappointing tv ending and being a bit slow in the first few issues, has really come on strong and its nice to see a "new" Superman that is actually progressing nicely through the series. when you compare the "new" Superman of Superman to the "new" Superman of Smallville its a little sad that the side series is doing a better job of giving readers a "new" Superman than the main series is. also like the Smallville suit more, overall, than the bio-tech suit because it melds the concept of old and new far better (and much better than reusing the Superman Returns suit like the final episode of the tv series did) than the clunky, unnecessarily lined and shield pattern emblazed version.

it will be interesting to see how Smallville handles the Monitors and its version of Crisis. still wish though that the series would find a way to retcon season 10 and give Darkseid and Apokolips the justice it deserves.

#31 Posted by guttridgeb (4832 posts) - - Show Bio

I might get the trades if they're released but for now, I'll leave it (pull list budget is overstretched as it is).

#32 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@ltbrd: dude you did a much better job explaining why it's better than I did lol

I agree with everything you said

I'm really excited to see what happens with the Monitors and the Crisis...I'm also wondering if this is their "season finale" and if the book will become Season 12

I imagine that Darkseid will be back at some point if the book lasts long enough....I'd like to see their version of Wonder Woman, Conner come back, they hinted at him meeting another Flash at some point with Impulse saying that he hadn't met his helpers yet, also want their version of the Justice League to reform...maybe for Bart's "funeral"

#33 Posted by consolemaster001 (5659 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: Do you recommed that i watch the series then the comics ?

#34 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@consolemaster001: it's a long series and not all of it is really important....I'd go for the episodes with members of their Justice League in them like Impulse, Cyborg, Aquaman, and Green Arrow...then the Legion of Superheroes episodes and the last season...there's also a few episodes that have Earth 2 in them which may be a bit important....anything else you can probably get from wikis...heck you could probably learn all you need from wikis

#35 Posted by PCN24454 (454 posts) - - Show Bio

The great thing about Season 11 is that they don't have an actor budget or a special effects budget. The battles can look as unrealistic as they want now like Impulse and Superman vs. Black Flash.

#37 Posted by SPM1M (808 posts) - - Show Bio

i read all the superman titles and smallville is by far the best, they stay really faithful to the show and its mythos

#38 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

they just introduced Wonder Woman....this book just keeps getting better and better

#39 Posted by lilben42 (2550 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: Was it a good issue. I'll get anything with Wonder Woman.

#40 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: yes definitely was...the digital issues are kind of short so there wasn't much there other than her introduction but I think this is going to be a very good arc

#41 Posted by TJSH96 (875 posts) - - Show Bio

Why did they have to continue it as a comic-book? I really wish they would've continued it as the T.V series. That's would've been a dream-come true for me.

#42 Posted by TheFirstLantern (1506 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm trying to get into more superman books, I got superman unchained and batman/superman thing is I don't have enough cash to get the trade, but I can manage a few back issues, where can I start.

P.S I love Smallville

#43 Edited by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@tjsh96: as a comic book they have no budget so you don't have to worry about horrible effects and costumes like Doomsday anymore....they can tell whatever story they want in a comic book

@thefirstlantern I would recommend starting as early as possible...if you can start with issue 1 then definitely start there...but if you want issue 54 just started a new arc

#44 Edited by TJSH96 (875 posts) - - Show Bio

Some of the fight-scenes in Smallville were really good, and even though the budget of the show was small, in my opinion Smallville is the best thing ever created by mankind. I love Smallville and I really wish they continue the T.V show some how.

#45 Posted by shieldzeal (67 posts) - - Show Bio

Just started rewatching Smallville just so I can read this. I never really got into the show back in the day (saw most of season 1 and hated the freak of the week thing). Little over halfway through season 1 and all the kryptonite is getting old. I remember the Chris Reeve eps being good, so I am looking forward to that.

I checked out one of the trades for Smallville not to long ago and the art was not the greatest.

#46 Edited by Lvenger (20234 posts) - - Show Bio

@danhimself: I've just finished reading the trade of Guardian and I can see why you like it. Millar is free to tell much more extravagant stories without a budget to limit his imagination and the quality of story telling and characterisation is great. Plus Pere Perez' redesign of the Superman suit might just be my favourite interpretation of the costume.

#47 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: yeah the costume is probably the best redesign they've done for the briefless look...well maybe besides his Earth 2 suit

#48 Posted by danhimself (22578 posts) - - Show Bio

@shieldzeal: you don't really need to watch the show to read the book....it would help since it sometimes does reference the show but I think you'd be ok without it....the tenth season would be the most important...or any of the episodes with other Justice League characters like there was a few with Bart Allen, Cyborg, and Aquaman...then the Legion episodes as well

#49 Posted by pixelized (62882 posts) - - Show Bio

Freaking love the costume redesign!!

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#50 Edited by Endanger (114 posts) - - Show Bio

The Superman and Batman fight in Smallville was how it should be.

That was some ownage.

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