supes and doomsday are powerfull enough to rip the earth in two,so a battle between them,using all their strength to exhaustion(atleast for supes),i means an arms wrestling competition between thor and hercules throw the earth out of its orbit,shouldn't a fight between these two break the planet to pieces???????

Maybe Supes and Doomsday are not really that strong to break a planet like an egg. In the bronze age, I do remember Validus breaking up something like a planet bec. the Fatal Five needed a vacation home.

The more I think about this fight, the more puzzled I become with the fact that Superman didn't trounce Doomsday in that first encounter. But that's neither here nor there.

I don't think that their fight would rip the earth apart, physics wouldn't allow it given their disproportionate size, mass and displacement of force/energy. The Thor Hercules arm wrestling point you're siting is absurd and is only fan service good times.

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

Making Superman and Doomsday too powerful just results in silly situations. I prefer Superman lift only 1 bus and not even meteors. For Doomsday, it is probably about time Doomsday evolve intelligence, flight and energy powers to better fight Superman.

@AtraCruor:@ssejllenrad: OK I can see that. Yet Doomsday's power set was limited to "Monster Mash" while Superman still had an arsenal of abilities at his disposal and all he could come up with was "hit him hard". Superman is supposed to be an incredibly intelligent character but he's not always written that way and this is what puzzles me about that fight.

@Press Oblivion: Not really "hit em hard" only. Doomsday was incredibly fast. He can't really utilize freeze breath (going by what was shown in the animated rendition), and he used his heat vision as well (to no avail).

It has been a couple of decades since I last read it, I'll have to take a look at it again.

Here's some of the scans regarding Doomday's speed back in DOS.

I really do have to read this again, I don't remember Maxima being in the story at all.

@Press Oblivion said:

I really do have to read this again, I don't remember Maxima being in the story at all.

she was a member of the JLA back then...the JLA was at that point pretty much the JLA International team

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

Didn't he lift a pyramid back then? Pyramids are way more than 100 tons.

@ThanosIsMad said:

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

Didn't he lift a pyramid back then? Pyramids are way more than 100 tons.

Byrne's Superman? What issue is this from?

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

I remember when I thought 100 tones was the bomb, learned a thing or 2 and now base 100 tonners seems like the street levelers of heavy hitters these days