reality of doomsday vs superman

#1 Posted by sumafatrider (59 posts) - - Show Bio

supes and doomsday are powerfull enough to rip the earth in two,so a battle between them,using all their strength to exhaustion(atleast for supes),i means an arms wrestling competition between thor and hercules throw the earth out of its orbit,shouldn't a fight between these two break the planet to pieces???????

#2 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Supes and Doomsday are not really that strong to break a planet like an egg. In the bronze age, I do remember Validus breaking up something like a planet bec. the Fatal Five needed a vacation home.

#3 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

The more I think about this fight, the more puzzled I become with the fact that Superman didn't trounce Doomsday in that first encounter. But that's neither here nor there.

I don't think that their fight would rip the earth apart, physics wouldn't allow it given their disproportionate size, mass and displacement of force/energy. The Thor Hercules arm wrestling point you're siting is absurd and is only fan service good times.

#4 Posted by AtraCruor (237 posts) - - Show Bio
@Press Oblivion: It was his first encounter with Doomsday and so he wasn't really sure what he was up against as he later became.  He was also super-speeding around saving lives so he was burning up his solar reserves faster leading Superman to hit with less for later in the fight than if he had stayed with DD the entire time.
#5 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

#6 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Making Superman and Doomsday too powerful just results in silly situations. I prefer Superman lift only 1 bus and not even meteors. For Doomsday, it is probably about time Doomsday evolve intelligence, flight and energy powers to better fight Superman.

#7 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

@AtraCruor:@ssejllenrad: OK I can see that. Yet Doomsday's power set was limited to "Monster Mash" while Superman still had an arsenal of abilities at his disposal and all he could come up with was "hit him hard". Superman is supposed to be an incredibly intelligent character but he's not always written that way and this is what puzzles me about that fight.

#8 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@Press Oblivion: Not really "hit em hard" only. Doomsday was incredibly fast. He can't really utilize freeze breath (going by what was shown in the animated rendition), and he used his heat vision as well (to no avail).

#9 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

It has been a couple of decades since I last read it, I'll have to take a look at it again.

#10 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

Here's some of the scans regarding Doomday's speed back in DOS.

#11 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

I really do have to read this again, I don't remember Maxima being in the story at all.

#12 Posted by danhimself (22270 posts) - - Show Bio

@Press Oblivion said:

I really do have to read this again, I don't remember Maxima being in the story at all.

she was a member of the JLA back then...the JLA was at that point pretty much the JLA International team

#13 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2192 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

Didn't he lift a pyramid back then? Pyramids are way more than 100 tons.

#14 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThanosIsMad said:

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

Didn't he lift a pyramid back then? Pyramids are way more than 100 tons.

Byrne's Superman? What issue is this from?

#15 Edited by drgnx (3548 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

People forget that the first time they met was just a few years after the Byrne retcon. And back then, he was way too weak. It was largely due to keeping his strength in check. They had his upper limit at 100 tons or so. It wasn't until the late 90's that they started increasing his power levels to the point where he was at towards the end of pre-Flashpoint. So yeah, it made some sense.

I remember when I thought 100 tones was the bomb, learned a thing or 2 and now base 100 tonners seems like the street levelers of heavy hitters these days

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