Are they really that different? I'm talking about the one in AC and BM/SM currently.

@squalleon@sog7dc@buttersdaman000@sanohibiki@ultimatesmfan@superguy1591

I haven't read many Pre 52 comics, so I can't compare

I think Pak's Superman is way more reckless. The act now worry later mentality is something that I haven't seen in Pre-52 Superman.
Example when he destroyed the machine that created energy out of creatures without thinking the consiquences an act like that would have in a world that was build on that energy and how it would affect the Sub-terrenian's look on the surface people Also I imagine after an act like that, the consiquences would be immidiate so, I really want to see that arc passing so we can return to the Sub-Terrenia(I always write this word wrong dammit.).. Plus for someone with all these senses and high IQ he certaintly asks for a lot of help, example when he asked Toyman's help in the last AC issue, which was an unecessary addition but Pak is pushing his characters (the ones he likes or revamps himself) but every writer does that. Also when he tried to break the barrier in the last issue, it was rediculous since it reminded me of that punch the energy beam DCAU Supes did, because he kept going and going and while it looked good, I think it made him look a bit dump for me :P, I think Pre-52 Supes in the same situation he would try to hear the sound rather than charge blindly.

But all in all they are pretty much the same with exception a few details.

Paks' Superman is little more reckless and.....straight forward. Other than than that, they're pretty much the same.

Superman lecturing went down significantly in N52 and Pak. He's more a man who acts, less a man who reacts.

He was never the lecturing type though, I don't know where do you get that :P

@squalleon: With Kara, he's always been the lecturing type, but he still is in the N52 so that's not a change.

Wasn't Vs the Elite a lecture?

Well Kara and Superman had a different relationship pre-52, the age difference was larger and Kara wasn't the annoying argumentative person she is now. They were a lot closer and Kara was more willing to listen to how this world works rather than push it aside.

Not really, the elite challenged Superman directly, both physically and mentally. He just fought back and ended up as the winner in both areas. The Elite gave speeches too.

But the entire end battle was a ruse. He staged it to teach them a lesson. Theoretically he could have beat them quicker.

The Elite had gained a following, even if he beat them without teaching the world a lesson others would take their place or people would still believe in the Elite's way of things.

@saint_wildcard:

In my opinion Pak's Superman is like a 21-24 year old Pre-52 Superman. I can totally see him growing into the the Superman we saw in allstar or even in Birthright (birthright Supes was 24 in the beginning but turned 25 about 1/4 of the way through)

@saint_wildcard: @superguy1591:

Also guys don't forget Pre-52 Superman was going for 20+ years and for most of them he had 3 solo titles at least. So I promise you it is easy to find any kind of story there.

@squalleon: I've never liked their relationship.

You mean with Kara? Use the quote button so I know what you are replying to :P
Anyway it is a lot better than the rediculous New-52 one. I mean the guy is the only family you have left, the only other Kryptonian, so yelling at him and distancing yourself is idiotic. I think Pak feels the same way because he writes them way closer than the previous writers did.

@saint_wildcard: If you want to enter Pre-52 Supes I suggest these stories. Birthright, Superman: Kryptonite by Cooke and Sale, World of New Krypton, JLA by Morrison, Camelot Falls(some love it, others not), Johns' Brainiac, definitely read Superman: Up Up and Away I think you will love it, especially the mano-o-mano between Luthor and Supes. Also Superman: Last Son, probably the best story from Johns' solo run.

@squalleon: yes, Kal and Kara.

I like pak Superman.

Pak seems to be the only current Superman writer to remember the Superman family.

@maccyd: Pak is best, yes.

Clark seems to appear in the Supergirl title, and I'm hearing good things about her title right now.

@saint_wildcard: I hope so, Supergirl and Superboy were the weakest titles of the family so far. To the point that one of them got cancelled.

And I'm glad it did. Cus with him went the whole CLois baby origin. We're getting a new Superboy with a new origin.

I think Kon is alive so I really don't know how they will explain two Superboys, except if they retcon the whole thing.

From what I understand an army of Superboy's from the multiverse destroyed him. So yes, they retconned it .... somehow. I don't know how yet since I trade wait Superboy.

They destroyed Jon Lane Kent, I am talking about Kon-El who is alive at the end.

Pre-52 is an older Superman still. He has experience to fall back on. I look at New 52, and especially Pak's Superman, as one who is going through the motions. We are learning as he does, experiencing everything with him. It's so much more interesting to look at like that :P

I really late to this party, but oh well, guys above answered it all ;)

You weren't late, you were making a dramatic entrance ;)