About five years(10 comic book years) or so verse the decades the other version had to properly establish themselves.They only had one major event to deal with, and I think new readers would enjoy seeing a long journey to the heroes old readers new. Even if they never become the same ones we remember.

Just before Trinity War, Clark mentions the kryptonite ring he gave Bruce in case he ever goes rogue. Then Bruce does the same by giving Clark a means to stop him as well, should Batman ever go rogue himself. We don't actually get to see what's in that box, but whatever it was, it was enough to shock Superman. They literally put their lives in each other's hands. I mean, if that's not a sign of complete trust between those two, I don't know what is.

The only way Lex would ever 'befriend' Superman is if it benefits him and his ego. That's not a real friendship at all. It's kind of weird that you can see Superman becoming friends with Lex, and yet you don't think Bruce, his actual friend, is trustworthy.

@divine_disorder: I never said Bruce isn't trustworthy, I just don't see how Lex can't be trustworthy as well. Lex openly plots, doesn't hide his identity when he does, and we can't trust him, Bruce plots and only says something when it's discovered and hides his identity the whole time.

If you're gonna put your trust in one, may as well trust both.

Agree with you. I gave lot of chances to superman writers on new 52, for now truth has been average on its best but nothing memorable to me

well that was just Pak trying to destroy Lois caractther... she can kiss batman but when superman show up she remembers her boyfriend that doesn't show up for more than a year

yeah ik that but i just dont see the connection between them

@lordraiden: @quinnofthestoneage: Before we get ahead of ourselves keep in mind that the conversation between Diana and Lois may take place in Superman/Wonder Woman which will also tie into the Truth story line.

well I do not read superman because I do not like Lois. I read Superman/Wonder Women because she is not in it.

Um, you asked what Bruce has ever done to prove himself trustworthy. I assume that meant you didn't think he was. But aside from the fact he and Lex are both rich and smart, they have nothing else in common, especially in terms of moral codes and personal convictions. You know, the things that matter most. Bruce and Clark have more in common when it comes to those things, and that is why they trust each other enough to give the other the means to destroy them, knowing it's in good hands and won't be used unless absolutely necessary and only as a last resort. There's no way Superman and Lex would ever do that same gesture.

When Batman prepares for the worst, it's because he worries about the potential cost to innocent lives. When Lex plots, it's all for his own personal gain and to stoke his massive ego, and to hell with whoever gets in his way. There's just no comparison at all.

I'm not even gonna delve into why most superheroes have secret identities. We all know why. Lex doesn't have one because he's a narcissist who loves being recognized. You can't use a secret identity, or lack thereof, to gauge trustworthiness. I don't know about you, but I'd trust a masked hero more than an unmasked villain any day.

No. I'm asking because I'm curious if Lex Luthor could do the same things Bruce has done. To be fair, a lot of things could stop both Bruce and Lex. Now, Kal may prefer Bruce to Lex, which is common. I have some friends I prefer over others, myself. However, that goes back to my first question. If Lex can do what Bruce can do, can you trust Lex as you trust Bruce?

So Lex Luthor has an ego. So does Tony Stark, and he's caused his own amount of trouble for the world, but he's still a trusted hero and pillar in the heroic community, and even leader of The Avengers. I'm not going to hold being human against Lex, same as I wouldn't against Bruce, who probably has an ego himself. Not as pronounced but everyone has one. And you call Lex a villain, and yes that has been his depiction for decades, but if I held up a picture to you, with no background information save for the names Batman and Lex Luthor, who would you trust? The man in the mask or the man without one?

Man, Lois sure is one selfish beyotch. Selling out your friend for some press.

I know a lot of things could stop both Bruce and Lex. But the point is the gesture itself, the act of faith between two people personally exchanging something that can destroy them, trusting each other with their very lives. And it's not a matter of what Lex can do. It's what he stands for.

With no background info whatsoever, I wouldn't readily trust either of them. But Clark knows them both, and we know what Clark knows. Bruce and Lex are nothing alike in the ways that matter most. That's why Clark trusts one and not the other.

love how she acts so non-chalant and almost surprised that Superman's still ticked about the identity thing... and how she basically betrayed the crap out of him. "What? THIS AGAIN?! You're still mad about that?! C'mon Clark... be reasonable!"

The fact that he's even still taking to her is astounding (astoundingly stupid). Someone did that gross of a betrayal, I wouldn't exactly answer their calls, or worry about how them receiving death threats.

I'm glad I've stopped wasting money on this tripe.

They do pretty good at her character Lois has never been one to worry over others. She has always been out for the story and the story always comes first. It is in her blood she and Lex would make a great couple because she would sell her mother for a story.

@divine_disorder: I'm not sure I totally think those things that Superman talks about are bad. Yeah, Lex understands tangible value, and yes Lex is an egomaniac. However, as Superman said, he created jobs, he had foundations and charities, but he's not Bruce Wayne. That's a perfectly fine and truthful statement.

Still, regardless of the intentions, Lex Luthor is helping people. Maybe it's not out of the goodness of his heart, but is that really a problem when he's saving the world?

I like Lex the hero they need to stop taking evil lex from all the past things he has never done and putting them on good Lex. For each story should stand alone. Not all stories can exist in one universe that is insane. Keep each story separate and stop the insanity. Plus it makes no sense to do so.

It doesn't look like a problem if you don't know who Lex is and what he's truly capable of. But he'd just as easily shoot you as smile at you if it benefited him in some way. Remember what he did to Ted Kord's dad, what he threatened to do to the guy's family because he refused to sell his company to LexCorp? Lex may look like a hero on the surface, to people who don't know any better. But make no mistake, Lex Luthor can never be trusted. And because he can't be trusted, that's why I really don't see him and Superman ever becoming friends. In the main DCU, that is.

Superman and lex friends? The best we can hope for is to compete among themselves, colleagues in arms, nothing more...although both are on the same side they do not have to be friends.

They were enemies in the past, those things can not be changed so dramatically..I like that there is tension between them as it should be.. And they criticize each other..

On the problem of Owlman.. will have to wait.. Not because Lex should again be villain(with a Joker Xa-Du that surprass) after Lena's surprise, newly converted and is already working with villain Darkseid .. Luthor would not surprise me to admit that she is almost as smart as Lex..He did not know what mercenary or terrify him the truth?

Xa Du as was you who gave the impulse not understand why this .. The truth would have negative consequences.. is Strange than Lois in their mental abilities give the Click and condemn those around them..

Even with the truth it seems that some want Superman to Lois.... well I not want to discuss but I still prefer wonderwoman..

Well I think I speak of the Lex from Smallville the one that had the chance to be good and the story missed the mark as it did for so many good things. Just grazed it but missed it none the less awesome actor none will ever do better and he just made you like Lex.

All the rest I do not really care for Lex is a character that as a villain been there done that sort of thing will pass bring on the army and the worlds of Dark Seid and lets make war.

I mean lets get a true Superman Villain that will shake the planet to the core and wake up the potential in the world. Hero and villain united against a common threat that is world extinction. Not some simple battle that is here and done one that takes everybody like world war 2 and they had kids picking up cans in the street to further the war effort.

Well I know that writers are screwing with lois because of the romance with WW, so is normal still want Lois. It's a much better romance then "both have powers and matching costumes"