lets hope that superman's second year in the New 52 is good

#1 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

I was very dissapointed with the first year of the New 52 for superman for the same reasons that a lot of other superman fans were disappointed. Lets hope that the union of Lobdell and Morrison bring Superman and Action comics back into the limelight in this second year of the DCnU.

#2 Posted by grenade728 (748 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that Lobdell is going to step it up on Superman, but it all depends on who is replacing Grant Morrison. Oh and if the Scott Snyder and Jim Lee Man of Steel rumor is true Superman fans can all breathe a sigh of relief.

#3 Posted by RScottH08 (249 posts) - - Show Bio

@grenade728: Agreed, I haven't been the biggest Lobdell fan in the past, but 0 was good so i'll give em a shot. As for the Snyder and Lee thing, it almost sounds to good to be true, but I hope it is.

#4 Posted by ssejllenrad (12847 posts) - - Show Bio

@grenade728 said:

Oh and if the Scott Snyder and Jim Lee Man of Steel rumor is true Superman fans can all have a nerdgasm.

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#5 Posted by mpierce2690 (316 posts) - - Show Bio

If Lee and Snyder do Man of Steel, the New 52 will be infinitely improved for it. They've finally got themselves a really great set of books for their main guys (Aquaman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Green Lantern), Superman was seriously lacking with the hot potato going on with the Superman title and Morrison's boring Action Comics.

They'd do well to show a hell of a lot more Clark Kent in his second year, while making use of one of the best supporting casts (Lois, Jimmy, Perry, even Lex Luthor) in all of comics.

#6 Posted by grenade728 (748 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssejllenrad said:

@grenade728 said:

Oh and if the Scott Snyder and Jim Lee Man of Steel rumor is true Superman fans can all have a nerdgasm.

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That was the word I was looking for!

#7 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

not likely.

#8 Posted by Jekylhyde14 (746 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still pretty devastated by the fact that Morrison is leaving Action Comics with issue #16. I like the Superman character he developed and don't want to see him fall to the wayside or back into Post-Crisis habits. I think Lobdell's run on Superman will be fun but it won't make up for the loss of Morrison. I'm pretty wary over the rumor that Andy Diggle is going to replace Grant on Action. Andy is a good writer but he's not known for writing or liking superhero comics. As for the Snyder/Lee rumor, I'll believe it when I see the teaser ads...

I'd describe my attitude for the next year of Superman as... cautious...

#9 Posted by Lvenger (18277 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jekylhyde14 said:

I'm still pretty devastated by the fact that Morrison is leaving Action Comics with issue #16. I like the Superman character he developed and don't want to see him fall to the wayside or back into Post-Crisis habits. I think Lobdell's run on Superman will be fun but it won't make up for the loss of Morrison. I'm pretty wary over the rumor that Andy Diggle is going to replace Grant on Action. Andy is a good writer but he's not known for writing or liking superhero comics. As for the Snyder/Lee rumor, I'll believe it when I see the teaser ads...

I'd describe my attitude for the next year of Superman as... cautious...

This pretty much sums up my thoughts on Superman's second year. But I have speculated over whether other writers may replace Morrison on Action Comics. Paul Cornell and Joshua Hale Fialkov are at the top of my list.

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#10 Posted by cloudzackvincent (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

the superman book sucked (except #0) ..hoewever action comics was pretty good..too bad morrison is leaving

#11 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Sadly, Morrison is leaving on Issue 16 of Action Comics and they have yet to announce his replacement.

Superman #0 was surprisingly good and I hope that Lobdell can continue dishing out consistently good stories.

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#12 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Eternal19 said:

I was very dissapointed with the first year of the New 52 for superman for the same reasons that a lot of other superman fans were disappointed. Lets hope that the union of Lobdell and Morrison bring Superman and Action comics back into the limelight in this second year of the DCnU.

Agreed. Although Morrison is going to leave, I'm glad Andy Diggle is going to take over and we would have a new Superman book by Jim Lee and Scott Snyder. Match made in heaven.

#13 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Haven't seen any confirmation for Diggle replacing Morrison on Action Comics.

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#14 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@sethysquare: Haven't seen any confirmation for Diggle replacing Morrison on Action Comics.

Might as well have been.

Andy Diggle said he has 3 upcoming projects at DC (not vertigo) and who else is he replacing? He has a 5% chance of writing Action Comics.

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/09/16/andy-diggle-not-talking-about-action-comics/

If we minus out writers that would definitely stay with the book, (Snyder on Batman, Johns on JL, JLA, GL, Manapul on Flash, Azzarello on WW, Failkov on I, Vampire, Lemiere on JLD, all those new creative teams) there isn't much books left that he can actually replace or take on.

My guess is he might possibly write a new book, take over either Aquaman or Green Arrow and Action Comics.

He has also said its a big project, so its unlikely going to be something like Frankenstein or Firestorm.

#15 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Indeed but it's only mere speculation and Johns is leaving Aquaman so it could be equally that or Action that he takes over. I personally prefer to wait until a proper confirmation is given.

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#16 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@sethysquare: Indeed but it's only mere speculation and Johns is leaving Aquaman so it could be equally that or Action that he takes over. I personally prefer to wait until a proper confirmation is given.

Johns is leaving Aquaman. JLA is starting in January or February.

He already has 3 books on his plate, JL, GL and Aquaman.

He won't be leaving GL anytime soon since he just said, Third army is only a prelude to another story. He also probably wont be leaving JL. Since its Justice League and he kinda already promised a whole 2nd year of plotline for Justice League.

So its probably Aquaman that he is leaving. Unless DC wants him to write 4 books on top of being the chief creative officer for DC comics, write TV shows, consult on TV shows, movies and.....

Theres only so much one person can do. LOL. Besides, I know DC has a 3 books only policy for their writers. Unlike Marvel. I recall Bendis can write like 5 or 6 ongoings at one time.

#17 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: Johns has no intentions of leaving Green Lantern anytime soon, it's his baby and he's been on the title since 2004.

I'd rather he left Justice League to continue writing Aquaman.

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#18 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: Considering how he is going to lead into the trinity war, I was hoping he could write both Justice League books. We havent had a proper event since Blackest Night and Flashpoint didnt really count.

#19 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: I personally think that Johns writing both JL titles might stretch him a little thin.

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#20 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: Or it might create more connectivity between both books. I'm up for it.

#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: That's a fair point indeed. I guess you could say that I'm just a little bummed out that both Johns and Reis are leaving Aquaman as it's been my favourite title of the New 52.

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#22 Posted by sethysquare (3843 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: Yeah me too. I loved Aquaman, but I trust that DC would put a killer creative team on Aquaman,.

#23 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: I truly hope so.

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#24 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been avoiding the main title for a while now because of all the disappointed reviews from people, so when Lobdell finally took over, I gave it a shot. Forgive me if I seem ignorant.

So I read the Lobdell issues (the annual and the zero issue), and... I don't know. Feeling very neutral towards it. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. I appreciate that he's trying to go cosmic (which is a direction I'd hoped for for a while now), but I'd like to get a further insight on what happened to his regular rogues gallery. Where's Lex, Bizarro, Brainiac (current day, not 5 years ago), Eradicator and all the others?

Also, I'm not sure if it was ever addressed, but did Superman ever die in this continuity? The whole Doomsday thing?

#25 Posted by SmashBrawler (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

So I read the Lobdell issues (the annual and the zero issue), and... I don't know. Feeling very neutral towards it. I don't love it, but I don't hate it either. I appreciate that he's trying to go cosmic (which is a direction I'd hoped for for a while now), but I'd like to get a further insight on what happened to his regular rogues gallery. Where's Lex, Bizarro, Brainiac (current day, not 5 years ago), Eradicator and all the others?

Well, Lex is coming back during the H'el on Earth crossover, and Lobdell has already expressed interest in bringing back classic Superman rogues (H'el himself is rumored to be the new Bizarro).

Also, I'm not sure if it was ever addressed, but did Superman ever die in this continuity? The whole Doomsday thing?

There was a reference in Swamp Thing 1, but I don't know if that's one of those references that's not canon anymore (like in Teen Titans) or if Doomsday had anything to do with it.

#26 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@SmashBrawler: I see. And what's the H'el crossover about anyway? I've only heard of it very recently (this morning, actually lol), but I've never bothered to do the research. As long as the old villains appear somewhere down the line, I'll be satisfied.

I originally assumed that it never happened, given Superman's almost entirely new personality in the JL title, but after re-reading Blackest Night, I just wanted to be sure. I feel like they haven't revealed nearly enough of Superman's history in the New 52 as some of the other characters (Hal, Barry, Bruce, Diana and Arthur especially). There's so much that hasn't been explored, imo, and I really hope that it's addressed soon.

#27 Posted by SmashBrawler (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: I'm not sure. There's some evil Kryptonian guy or something who attacks Earth, and Superman, Supergirl and Superboy fight him. That's all I know, but I haven't been paying attention to be honest.

#28 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: H'el is pretty much a modernized version of Bizarro

#29 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Eternal19: But he's not the Bizarro, right?

#30 Posted by Supes1903 (137 posts) - - Show Bio

We don't really know if that's true or not, only speculation until we have books in hand. However, I hope it is true.

#31 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supes1903: He looks a lot like Bizarro he even has the backwards "S"

#32 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024: Im not sure im just speculating based on the pictures that I've seen of him

#33 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Eternal19: Oh, there are pictures? Damn, I'm so far behind, lol.

#34 Posted by Eternal19 (2076 posts) - - Show Bio
#35 Posted by Dark_Vengeance_ (14587 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope is all we can do. and I do not mean her.

#36 Posted by G_Money_Christmas (881 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked Superman #0, so I hope that the story continues to be as good. I've never heard of Andy Diggle so I looked up some of his stuff and it seems to pretty consistently get good reviews, so let's hope he does a good job on Action Comics (if he even has the job).

@Jekylhyde14 said:

I'm still pretty devastated by the fact that Morrison is leaving Action Comics with issue #16. I like the Superman character he developed and don't want to see him fall to the wayside or back into Post-Crisis habits. I think Lobdell's run on Superman will be fun but it won't make up for the loss of Morrison. I'm pretty wary over the rumor that Andy Diggle is going to replace Grant on Action. Andy is a good writer but he's not known for writing or liking superhero comics. As for the Snyder/Lee rumor, I'll believe it when I see the teaser ads...

I'd describe my attitude for the next year of Superman as... cautious...

I didn't see any superhero comics under his belt, though

#37 Posted by Jekylhyde14 (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@G_Money_Christmas:

He did a run on Marvel's Thunderbolts and the Daredevil Shadowland material. I liked his Thunderbolts but Shadowland tends to get heavily derided. I've heard rumors that he's been critical of the superhero genre in the past, but I can't confirm this. It just makes me nervous.

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