@jayc1324: Wraith is Zod...except without a personality.

New 52 Zod had little personality under Soule's atrocious scripting so unless you're praising Pre New 52 Zod, I fail to see how current Zod is more compelling than current Wraith. Let me guess, it's because Pak wrote Zod in Villain's Month isn't it? As for Wraith, he poses a great psychological and ideological challenge to Superman, more than you care to admit. But we've established you don't like Unchained at all.

It's a bit early for this but what the hell

@lvenger: I was talking about Zod as a whole. And Wraith is just bulky Zod; nothing fresh or new dynamic about him.

@saint_wildcard: You read 34 yet? Did you like it?

I just read it, good stuff. Interesting villain, good emotional moments, good action. Loving it so far.

Zod represents the worst of Krypton with understandable but misguided motives to his cause. Wraith represents Superman's inactivity against much larger threats that could save lives but only through ambiguous and equally immoral ways. They're completely different, I assure you. And Zod is better I grant you that but Wraith is a different kind of threat to Superman. There are nuances about Wraith that you aren't seeing.

@lvenger: I'm disappointed that wraith probably won't be used anymore after unchained.

True but new characters can decrease in quality after their original story so maybe it's better if Wraith has a one and done story instead.

@lvenger: true. I just like characters that are a real physical threat to Superman, like H'el and Darkseid and Wraith. I was disappointed when superman ripped doomsday in half too.

Well Doomsday is supposed to be a plot device against Superman winning through sheer might so that needed to be changed in the New 52. Doomed isn't what I would do with Doomsday myself.

The way I view it is that comparative strength and durability is at a greater scale with superhuman beings than with humans. With normal folks, we can't punch through each other or rip each other apart by sheer tensive strength, but the same rule or standards would not apply to folks that have strength in the multi-megaton range. Invincible relays this really well with the Viltrumites. They're all super strong and invulnerable, but can still punch through one another, rip each other's heads off, tear off limbs or punch through each others guts.

It didn't mean they weren't insanely and superhumanly durable - they were - just that the scaling of strength was simply not relative to human terms. I have zero doubt in my mind that Doomsday could have done the same thing to Supes (being animalistic in nature, I doubt he really would have thought about it), and that Doomsday got ripped in half does nothing negative to my impression of him as a powerful character.

H'El

no, h'es just another super powerful superman enemy.