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    Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!

    Is Superman the second fastest man alive?

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    #1  Edited By opis34

    We all know the Flash is the fastest being on the planet but how does the list go after him? Does Superman take the 2nd spot or is someone else on the planet faster than him?

    Edit: This is for the New 52 Prime Universe only.

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    What about Kid Flash?

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    Nope.

    There are more speedsters, not only the Flash.

    Kid Flash, Reverse Flash, Johnny Quick, Jesse Quick, Max Mercury etc etc

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    Interesting question.

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    I would say he's in the top 10

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    Every character called Flash is faster, to Captain Atom speed is an illusion he doesn't see. Then you have the villains who's shown up to be faster than Supes, like H'El.

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    @buttersdaman000: Every flash.

    Barry, Wally, Bart, Jay, Reverse Flash, Max, Johnny, Jesse, Speed Demon...

    That's all I got. (9) well, what do you know...

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    @buttersdaman000: Every flash.

    Barry, Wally, Bart, Jay, Reverse Flash, Max, Johnny, Jesse, Speed Demon...

    That's all I got. (9) well, what do you know...

    lol

    Though, i'm not sure about Jesse Quick being faster than Superman....

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    @superguy1591: You do know that if you take Superman's greatest travel speed feats, he's clearly above Bart, Jay, Jesse, Max and Johnny, right?

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    Any character that derives their speed by tapping into the speed force is potentially in the no.1 spot of fastest beings, barring that imo full powered kryptonians are the second fastest beings on earth.

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    Since we're on speed, is Krypto faster than Superman? Since you know, they do have a dog & human relationship, and we all know how a speed test would go between a dog & a human.

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    Deathstroke is faster than Superman ;)

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    @squalleon: those speedsters don't exist in the new 52

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    @opis34 said:

    @squalleon: those speedsters don't exist in the new 52

    Some of them do. Also Captain Atom is faster.

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    @2cool4fun: I don't think Kid flash is faster than Superman.

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    @jonny_anonymous: True but Jay, Jesse, Max, Johnny, and Speed Demon don't. Also I don't believe Bart is faster and I'm not sure if either Reverse Flash still has his powers or if Wally has gained his yet.(Sorry have not read Flash comics in a while) You got me on Captain Atom though.

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    I don't even think Superman is in the top 10 of the fastest alive ad least on paper, here is a list of 10 guys who could beat him if the companies actually agreed to have all the characters race.

    Barry Allen

    Bart Allen

    Wally West

    Zoom/Reverse-Flash

    Quicksilver

    Sonic the hedgehog

    Shadow the hedgehog

    Goku

    Vegeta

    Piccolo

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    #20  Edited By opis34

    @ariesxmasters: More than halve of those characters don't exist in the Dc universe and Quicksilver wishes he was as fast as Superman. I could debate the Sonic characters and the Dbz characters but that seems like a bad idea.

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    #21 the_stegman  Moderator

    Probably the fastest that doesn't have a connection to the Speed Force.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: Halve of those characters don't exist in the Dc universe and Quicksilver wishes he was as fast as Superman. I could debate the Sonic characters and the Dbz characters but that seems like a bad idea.

    Annnnh Quicksilver is as fast as he needs to be, to be faster. If Superman and Quicksilver were to actually race Marvel would just up Quicksilver speed so he could stomp Superman speed wise, they'd look like foolish not to specially when that is what the character is all about.

    I didn't even see you said only from the DC universe. Well regardless the top 4 character I name could still beat Superman in a race. So no he is not the second fastest, he's not even in the top 10 IMO ad least on paper.

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    I don't even think Superman is in the top 10 of the fastest alive ad least on paper, here is a list of 10 guys who could beat him if the companies actually agreed to have all the characters race.

    Barry Allen

    Bart Allen

    Wally West

    Zoom/Reverse-Flash

    Quicksilver

    Sonic the hedgehog

    Shadow the hedgehog

    Goku

    Vegeta

    Piccolo

    Technically, Zoom doesn't count. He's not moving substantially fast. He's just screwing with time relative to himself.

    Pretty sure Shadow can only move like that because of his special shoes.

    Are you referring to pre-Flashpoint Bart Allen or Bart-Tor? Because while you have a case for Bart, I'm not so sure about post-Flashpoint.

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    @ariesxmasters: Quicksilver is not as fast as he needs to be he is consistently slower than Superman. if Marvel and Dc had a race Dc would never agree to let Quicksilver beat Superman ever. You may not believe Superman is in your top 10 but if you believe Quicksilver is you need to rethink your list.

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    #25  Edited By ariesxmasters

    @scouterv said:

    @ariesxmasters said:

    I don't even think Superman is in the top 10 of the fastest alive ad least on paper, here is a list of 10 guys who could beat him if the companies actually agreed to have all the characters race.

    Barry Allen

    Bart Allen

    Wally West

    Zoom/Reverse-Flash

    Quicksilver

    Sonic the hedgehog

    Shadow the hedgehog

    Goku

    Vegeta

    Piccolo

    Technically, Zoom doesn't count. He's not moving substantially fast. He's just screwing with time relative to himself.

    Pretty sure Shadow can only move like that because of his special shoes.

    Are you referring to pre-Flashpoint Bart Allen or Bart-Tor? Because while you have a case for Bart, I'm not so sure about post-Flashpoint.

    I'm referring to New 52 version of everyone. New 52 Reverse-Flash would beat New 52 Superman. It has nothing to do with Shadows shoes, Scounter, Shadow is just faster. I'm talking about New 52 Bar Torr the one with the Teen Titans he would beat Superman as well.

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    #26  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

    @opis34: Jay and Jesse bost exist in the New 52 and Reverse Flash does still have his powers

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    @jonny_anonymous: Jay is on Earth 2 even though I did not mean to say he did not exist. Ah does she but what are her greatest speed feats? Okay so the characters on Prime Earth faster than Superman are Barry,Atom,and Reverse Flash from what I have currently gathered.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: Quicksilver is not as fast as he needs to be he is consistently slower than Superman. if Marvel and Dc had a race Dc would never agree to let Quicksilver beat Superman ever.You may not believe Superman is in your top 10 but if you believe Quicksilver is you need to rethink your list.

    Hmmmmmm.

    Let me ask you something:

    What Superman Comics have you read?

    What Comics with Quicksilver have you read?

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    @ariesxmasters: What Quicksilver comic have you read where Quicksilver has moved faster than light? Because I can prove Superman has.

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    @opis34: Earth 2 is still part of the New 52.

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    @jonny_anonymous: Yes but I wanted just prime Earth which I later edited in my first post sorry for the misunderstanding.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: What Quicksilver comic have you read where Quicksilver has moved faster than light? Because I can prove Superman has.

    He moves at undefined speed. The narrator never says how fast he is moving.

    Undefined speed= As fast as he needs to be.

    Let me see the feat of Superman going faster than light. It is probably old as hell lol is it at least from the New 52?

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    Barry

    Zoom/Reverse-Flash

    Jay

    Captain Atom? not sure where he ranks but he is faster than Supes)

    H'El

    So for now Superman is 6th fastest IMO, but when Wally gets his powers he would be 1 or 2 which would move Superman down to 7th

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    @ariesxmasters: It is from the New 52 just go have a look in his capability thread they have a bunch. Also undefined speed is slower than a persons speed that we can figure out.

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    @theamazingimmortalman: I don't count Jay since he is in another universe. So Superman is 5th fastest in his own universe which is not bad if you ask me.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: It is from the New 52 just go have a look in his capability thread they have a bunch. Also undefined speed is slower than a persons speed that we can figure out.

    Post it on here, and I will post some Quicksilver feats(Some recent ones none of that old stuff).

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    @ariesxmasters: I don't have the scans I can link the thread if you like though.

    http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/new-52-superman-capability-thread-1628483/

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    #38  Edited By ariesxmasters

    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: I don't have the scans I can link the thread if you like though.

    http://www.comicvine.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/new-52-superman-capability-thread-1628483/

    None of those feats tell his exact speed though in the narration box.

    This is probably Quicksilver best feat to date.

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    @ariesxmasters: I don't think that feat can compare with Superman being able to fly to the sun and back.

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    @ariesxmasters: I am a fan of Pietro and I do think he gets underestimated a lot, but there is no way he is faster than Superman. That issue itr said he got across town in a few seconds and Supes goes to other planets in that amount of time. Superman escaped a black hole, I'm pretty sure (with my not so scientific mind) you have to travel FTL to escape a black hole.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: I don't think that feat can compare with Superman being able to fly to the sun and back.

    The thing about the feat of Superman flying to the sun is that there is no specification on how fast he is going. Like if is take him a second to get there then he is like faster than Flash which we know he is not. The OP saying Superman went 320 times faster than light is complete speculation no where does it say specifically how fast he is going.

    Speculation<<<<< Box that tells how fast the character is going.

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    @ariesxmasters: Superman has a feat where the writer said he was at the end of the universe(yes stupid I know) and it clearly says it took him 2 months to get back to earth.

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    @opis34 said:

    @squalleon: those speedsters don't exist in the new 52

    Kid Flash, Reverse Flash, Johnny Quick, do, don't know about their limits though.

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    #44  Edited By ariesxmasters

    @ariesxmasters: I am a fan of Pietro and I do think he gets underestimated a lot, but there is no way he is faster than Superman. That issue itr said he got across town in a few seconds and Supes goes to other planets in that amount of time. Superman escaped a black hole, I'm pretty sure (with my not so scientific mind) you have to travel FTL to escape a black hole.

    If Superman is able to go other planets in a few seconds than he is like faster than Flash which again we know he is not lol. It took Flash more than a few second to finish this and you can tell because the enemies are finishing sentences. I can post more like this if you're not convinced.

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    @ariesxmasters: Superman has a feat where the writer said he was at the end of the universe(yes stupid I know) and it clearly says it took him 2 months to get back to earth.

    Just read what I said to the guy above because that pretty much applies to this comment too.

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    #45  Edited By opis34

    @ariesxmasters: Flash is not going full speed in the scan you posted heroes hold back.

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    @w0nd: Has Johnny Quick appeared in any comics involving Prime Earth? Also I acknowledged in earlier comments that Reverse Flash is faster. Right know I'm more trying to see where Superman stands among the other speedsters.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: Flash is not going full speed in the scan you posted heroes hold back.

    I could say Quicksilver was too. See? No where on neither of the feats that I have presented does it say "Flash was going his fastest", or "Quicksilver was going his fastest".

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    #48  Edited By opis34

    @ariesxmasters: You could however none of the scans you posted come close to matching the speed we have shown Superman can move at while others can post scans of Flash either outracing Superman or moving faster than him. Anyway it doesn't matter this discussion is between Superman and Quicksilver stop avoiding the issue and bringing Flash into it.

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    @opis34 said:

    @ariesxmasters: You could however none of the scans you posted come close to matching the speed we have shown Superman can move at while others can post scans of Flash either outracing Superman or moving faster than him.

    Sorry I was late to the responses but pretty much this

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    #50  Edited By w0nd

    @opis34 said:

    @w0nd: Has Johnny Quick appeared in any comics involving Prime Earth? Also I acknowledged in earlier comments that Reverse Flash is faster. Right know I'm more trying to see where Superman stands among the other speedsters.

    Just when he arrived in forever evil. But he is technically not from that earth. It kind of sucks that him and flash never got to fight. Actually none of them really got to fight their counterparts.....


    What issue did new 52 supes go to the end of the universe? I missed out on a lot

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