Is Christopher Reeves Superman more powerful than Modern Superman

#1 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

Both Pre-52 and New-52 Superman. Let's see his feats:

  • Easily moves The Moon
  • Reverses time with his speed
  • Makes Lois forget her memory somehow
  • If you count Superman Returns, he lifted an Island while stabbed with Kryptonite
  • Took on 3 Kryptonians

Also, is Smallvile Superman stronger? Because he EFFORTLESSLY moved Apokolips???

#2 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's not forget that the same mountain was made out of Kryptonite :P

Yes. The Reeves Superman might be the second most powerful version after the Silver Age Supes.

#3 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

Let's not forget that the same mountain was made out of Kryptonite :P

Yes. The Reeves Superman might be the second most powerful version after the Silver Age Supes.

Mmmh. I wouldn't say second most powerful.

  • KC Superman
  • PRIME-Kal-L
  • Superboy/Superman Prime

Them 3 might be more powerful. Kal-L is the GA Superman but in his prime he was equal to SA Supes so he's probably more powerful. But his recent Infinite Crisis version would get stomped.

#4 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

Reeves Superman was essentially Silver Age Superman so he automatically wins.

And Season Finale Superman was probably the same.

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#5 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: I'll give you the other two, but KC Superman wasn't in their league. He's more powerful than the modern Superman, sure, but not high enough to compete with those other ones.

#6 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

Reeves Superman was essentially Silver Age Superman so he automatically wins.

And Season Finale Superman was probably the same.

At the end of Smallville he suddenly moved a Planet...

#7 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@comicdude23: I'll give you the other two, but KC Superman wasn't in their league. He's more powerful than the modern Superman, sure, but not high enough to compete with those other ones.

Well Modern Superman was powerful enough to help move The Earth. And KC Superman was far more powerful than Modern Superman. So I think he might be.

#8 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@comicdude23: I'll give you the other two, but KC Superman wasn't in their league. He's more powerful than the modern Superman, sure, but not high enough to compete with those other ones.

Gambit's right. KC Superman was probably twice as strong as Pre-52 Superman at best, while both Superman Prime and the GA Superman were both Silver Age levels.

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#9 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget: To be fair, by Infinite Crisis, Kal-L was only at the level of Modern Superman.

#10 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

@Deranged Midget said:

Reeves Superman was essentially Silver Age Superman so he automatically wins.

And Season Finale Superman was probably the same.

At the end of Smallville he suddenly moved a Planet...

Indeed, it was definitely SA levels.

Well Modern Superman was powerful enough to help move The Earth. And KC Superman was far more powerful than Modern Superman. So I think he might be.

Pre-52 Superman exerted everything he had in helping move a third of the Earth. I wouldn't call it exactly a feat of his own. KC Superman wouldn't be strong enough to push the planet on his own either.

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#11 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

@Deranged Midget: To be fair, by Infinite Crisis, Kal-L was only at the level of Modern Superman.

Yes, but in COIE, he was at Silver Age levels of power. He was weakened by Infinite Crisis.

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#12 Posted by Gambit1024 (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@Gambit1024 said:

@comicdude23: I'll give you the other two, but KC Superman wasn't in their league. He's more powerful than the modern Superman, sure, but not high enough to compete with those other ones.

Gambit's right. KC Superman was probably twice as strong as Pre-52 Superman at best, while both Superman Prime and the GA Superman were both Silver Age levels.

That's essentially what I'm getting at. When you stack up the feats done by Prime and GA, KC's, while commendable, would be stomped by either one in a fight.

#13 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23 said:

@Deranged Midget: To be fair, by Infinite Crisis, Kal-L was only at the level of Modern Superman.

Yes, but in COIE, he was at Silver Age levels of power. He was weakened by Infinite Crisis.

No he wasn't. In COIE, he was slightly above what he was in Infinite Crisis.

#14 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

No he wasn't. In COIE, he was slightly above what he was in Infinite Crisis.

Yes, the original Kal-L(Earth 2) was nearly equal in power to that of Silver Age Superman of Earth One.

Both he and Pre-52 Superman were weakened by Infinite Crisis.

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#15 Posted by AssertingValor (5393 posts) - - Show Bio

Whered u get the idea for this thread? the hulk vs reeves thread ha ??

#16 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23 said:

No he wasn't. In COIE, he was slightly above what he was in Infinite Crisis.

Yes, the original Kal-L(Earth 2) was nearly equal in power to that of Silver Age Superman of Earth One.

Both he and Pre-52 Superman were weakened by Infinite Crisis.

The COIE happened in 1985, that was Bronze Age. After time, Kal-El of Earth One was shown to be superior to Kal-L of Earth-Two. They only stalemated once, as the 70s and 80s passed. The ridiculous Silver-Age feats had gone. He had no feats in COIE besides moving beating a weakened Anti-Monitor.

There isn't much difference between Earth-One Superman in 1985 than Modern Superman.

#17 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: COIE "Earth One" Superman was stronger than Pre-52 Superman. After COIE, Superman received the Byrne treatment and was ridiculously de-powered. It took him two decades to grow in power to become what once was Pre-52 Superman.

By stating Modern Superman, you're coincidentally referring to New 52 Superman since he's the only modern incarnation as of now.

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#18 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: COIE "Earth One" Superman was stronger than Pre-52 Superman. After COIE, Superman received the Byrne treatment and was ridiculously de-powered. It took him two decades to grow in power to become what once was Pre-52 Superman.

By stating Modern Superman, you're coincidentally referring to New 52 Superman since he's the only modern incarnation as of now.

Not by much. PC E1 Superman was completely watered down by COIE, contrary to popular belief he wasn't pulling a chain of Planets.

I agree that straight after COIE he was ridiculously de-powered, but right before the New-52 he was at the same power levels of PC E1 Superman.

They weren't THAT powerful at COIE.

#19 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: The Superman that pulled the multiple planets on the chain was referred to as Silver Age Superman. He became retconned into COIE Superman pretty quickly. COIE Superman was essentially Pre-Crisis Superman, who was roughly 2-3 times stronger than Pre-52 Superman. Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis was Pre-Crisis levels and he took on both Pre-52 and Earth 2 Supermen with ease.

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#20 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: The Superman that pulled the multiple planets on the chain was referred to as Silver Age Superman. He became retconned into COIE Superman pretty quickly. COIE Superman was essentially Pre-Crisis Superman, who was roughly 2-3 times stronger than Pre-52 Superman. Superboy Prime in Infinite Crisis was Pre-Crisis levels and he took on both Pre-52 and Earth 2 Supermen with ease.

I know that. But those feats occurred in the 50s, 30 years later he was heavily watered down. PC Superboy Prime was probably stronger than the late PC E1 Superman. The 50s E1 Superman would stomp him, but I can't say the the same for 80s version. He really didn't have impressive feats in the 80s, at all.

#21 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Superboy Prime during COIE was weaker than Earth 1 Superman. He was the Pre-Crisis representation of power during Infinite Crisis.

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#22 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: Superboy Prime during COIE was weaker than Earth 1 Superman. He was the Pre-Crisis representation of power during Infinite Crisis.

Not really. I remember he was able to toss Earth-1 Superman rather easily.

#23 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Anyone can toss around Superman, he's roughly 220 lbs. Point is, he was still slightly superior and SBP was meant to be that demonstration of power during Infinite Crisis.

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#24 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: Anyone can toss around Superman, he's roughly 220 lbs. Point is, he was still slightly superior and SBP was meant to be that demonstration of power during Infinite Crisis.

The point is Earth-One Superman should have stopped it. When they first met, I believe SBP was more powerful.

#25 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Should have stopped what? SBP was on that level, but he wasn't superior.

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#26 Posted by comicdude23 (11399 posts) - - Show Bio

@Deranged Midget said:

@comicdude23: Should have stopped what? SBP was on that level, but he wasn't superior.

Stopped Prime throwing him.

#27 Posted by Deranged Midget (17599 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23: Part of the story. He should've stopped countless other people. Batman from punching him, etc.

A toss from a being with power similar to his own isn't a stretch.

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#28 Posted by GunGunW (996 posts) - - Show Bio

It's really not hard to be more powerful than the modern Superman who got beaten up by a train.

#29 Edited by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicdude23 said:

Both Pre-52 and New-52 Superman. Let's see his feats:

  • Easily moves The Moon
  • Reverses time with his speed
  • Makes Lois forget her memory somehow
  • If you count Superman Returns, he lifted an Island while stabbed with Kryptonite
  • Took on 3 Kryptonians

Also, is Smallvile Superman stronger? Because he EFFORTLESSLY moved Apokolips???

So far from what we've seen from the new 52 Superman, yes the older versions seem superior.

Also, Smallville Superman a lot of people don't realize but if you watched every show you'd know, Dr. Fate confirmed that he will "lead the Silver Age" implying Clark is apparently the Silver Age Superman...or similar in power. That's not to say Clark from Smallville/Superman is exactly the SA version but based off of that version since they confirmed the golden age passed already in Smallville's timeline.

I'm sure he could reverse time since he literally pushed an entire planet off of Earth into Space effortlessly...

He also in the future episode contained a nuclear reactor explosion, with his speed alone.

Reeves Superman also is imo more powerful then the new 52 Superman given his feats. He also made Lois forget via hypnosis, he was also based off the SA version as he had telekinesis in Superman 4 and has hypnosis in the movies he was in.

#30 Posted by Kid_Omega_Prime (1254 posts) - - Show Bio

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