I have to say I was surprised at how good the comic was. I expected something completely different. Makes me want to get the game even more.
Superman
Character » Superman appears in 18942 issues.
Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!
Injustice: Gods Among Us
Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
This isnt part of the New 52
Obviously. But ever since DC began the New 52 they couldn't produce a decent story (without Morrison) if Alan Moore himself came up and slammed a script down in front of them.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
This isnt part of the New 52
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@JLDoom said:Obviously. But ever since DC began the New 52 they couldn't produce a decent story (without Morrison) if Alan Moore himself came up and slammed a script down in front of them.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
This isnt part of the New 52
I think its a little far-fetched to relate this to the New 52 since the basic premise of this game was written by the Netherrealm studios writers, not by any DC writers
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
Batman has always been a "rebel" in the dc universe so it kind of makes sense. Also he was the leader of the resistance in superman: red son. Also new 52 could be in this game because of superman's costume.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
uhm, i don't think that is the story, i've read it and its nothing like that. we don't know anything about the story yet, except superman takes control over a certain area after a travesty that struck earth.
so lets wait for the story to unfold before complaining.
God, I hope not it not ''Superman turns evil and Batman has to stop him'', its pretty cliche and poor if you ask me. Plus if it that was the case, you should have released it last year, not this. This year is Superman's year, if anyone should look good in any of this is Superman.I hope there's more into this story than that.
@FadeToBlackBolt: uhhh Red Son isn't in the New52, and the concept of Batman being a freedom fighter could go as far back as the Justice League cartoon when Vandal Savage changed the outcome of WW2.
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
Ever since The Dark Knight Returns lol.
I feel like the game will just promote more Superman hate, Just like The Dark Knight Returns did, and everyone will like "Batman can beat Superman" in any type of scenario crap.
Speaking of The Dark Knight Returns why do people use a story that isn't even canon for an argument on why Batman can beat Superman? I never understood that.
@lilben42 said:
@Squalleon: Wasn't Batman psycho in that storyline or something like that. As long as Batman doesn't beat Superman in the story mode I'm okay with it.
well he wasn't a psycho he was Batman in Russia :-P
I just hate how DC handles Superman in a Shared Universe.
Supes has became nothing more than DC's Power Scale.Everyone who can beat him becomes an instant Badass(Look Ocean Master).
I am just dissapointed with DC.Supes is Earth's most powerfull being and DC use him as a punching bag for heroes to became more popular!
@JLDoom said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@JLDoom said:Obviously. But ever since DC began the New 52 they couldn't produce a decent story (without Morrison) if Alan Moore himself came up and slammed a script down in front of them.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Stupid. Stupid. Stupid. Why do people have this idea that Batman is a freedom fighter? He's not. Stupid New 52 crap.@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
it is basically RED SON!
Superman becames a dictator and batman is the resistance
This isnt part of the New 52
I think its a little far-fetched to relate this to the New 52 since the basic premise of this game was written by the Netherrealm studios writers, not by any DC writers
Actually dude, both are writing it. There was a video interview recently on YT that confirmed both NRS guys and DC writers(they said the guy involved doing a lot of the story) writing the story for Injustice.
Writers Justin Gray and Jimmy Palmiotti are working on the game/comic too overseen and making sure the characters are true to character while Tom Taylor writes the comic. So both NRS writers and DC writers are working on the overall project between the game and the comics(the comics are done by Taylor alone. Here's a recent interview concerning the comics guys, enjoy!
@Squalleon said:
@lilben42 said:
@Squalleon: Wasn't Batman psycho in that storyline or something like that. As long as Batman doesn't beat Superman in the story mode I'm okay with it.
well he wasn't a psycho he was Batman in Russia :-P
I just hate how DC handles Superman in a Shared Universe.
Supes has became nothing more than DC's Power Scale.Everyone who can beat him becomes an instant Badass(Look Ocean Master).
I am just dissapointed with DC.Supes is Earth's most powerfull being and DC use him as a punching bag for heroes to became more popular!
This. They only use Supes as a measuring stick now days.
@Squalleon said:
I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
True. But at least it gives us a good reason to hopefully play as Captain Marvel and lay the smack down to knock some sense back into Supes.
@Squalleon said:
@lilben42 said:
@Squalleon: Wasn't Batman psycho in that storyline or something like that. As long as Batman doesn't beat Superman in the story mode I'm okay with it.
well he wasn't a psycho he was Batman in Russia :-P
I just hate how DC handles Superman in a Shared Universe.
Supes has became nothing more than DC's Power Scale.Everyone who can beat him becomes an instant Badass(Look Ocean Master).
I am just dissapointed with DC.Supes is Earth's most powerfull being and DC use him as a punching bag for heroes to became more popular!
Wait, they both aren't psychos?
Also I absolutely agree.
A friend put it in his own words, "Honestly, I think we're still plagued by people who don't get Supes, and in an attempt to make him more interesting, they make him "dark" and conflicted. Man of Steel kinda looks that way so far, but I'm hearing that the movie will be action packed. But even Morrison's run of New 52 Superman is being criticized, and usually he can do no wrong in fan's eyes."
Superman needs a Bruce Timm of his very own.
Superman may not be "evil" just darker, pissed then the game can end with him coming back to the way he normally is or perhaps...just a theory I have, what if he gets ahold of Red K? And that could be one reason why he's acting different combined with what happens to well, personal people in his life..
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
This sums up exactly why I hate this change in Injustice: Gods Among Us. It doesn't make sense for Superman to be an evil dictator enacting an eye for an eye justice rather than a fairer moral value system he holds. Why can't writers make Superman an interesting character without having to make him evil?
To the naysayers: give it a shot and read the comic
Also check out IGN's recent interview with the writer Tom Taylor: http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/05/injustice-writer-opens-up-about-superman-tragedy
"I think the game’s writers felt that Superman needed a personal tragedy to fundamentally change the way he sees the world. I understand this. It always bugs me when heroes suddenly begin acting completely unlike themselves simply because the plot demands it. A lot of people are suggesting online that this is the moment that Superman will “turn evil.” Will things be done in a moment of pain? Yes. Will he “turn evil” overnight? I think the world is a bit more complicated than that.
I don’t think one event, no matter how traumatic, changes the son Martha and Jonathan Kent raised. I don’t think one awful moment changes the man that Lois Lane fell in love with. For those who think they know where this is going, stick with us."
For me the story wasn't too bad except that, as a comic book fan, we've seen this stuff before from other forms of media which makes it predictable, and no matter what it's only a promotional wy for the upcoming game.. The whole idea that 'Lois is dead so Sup's can go to Wonder Woman' was thought up in Kingdom Come, and 'The justice League either turn anti-heroes or become evil and cross certain lines to better the world' was done in JL TV series w/ the Justice Lords. If they had a better story than the one their using or still use it but make it 10 times better some how then it would give us all the more reason to get into the story and buy the game.
@lilben42 said:
@Vaeternus: Yeah, actually I think he's just more violent with villains. Have you been reading the comic?
Yeah, but I don't want to read too much into it because I'm getting the collector's edition :) which will have all the comics into one book as a prequel!! To the game, so I'm excited for that. But yeah, I've read the first few and what he does to GL and then to Joker or whoever that is since Joker is apparently in the game so should be interesting to see how that plays out. Superman going MK on someone is definitely something you don't see every day lol
@Z3RO180 said:
@Vaeternus the real for supes being the way he is is given in the comic for injustice
Totally, I mean a tragedy like that would push anyone over the line I think...
@Lvenger said:
@FadeToBlackBolt said:
@Squalleon said:Ugh, is it? That's a shame. Having Superman be evil is like having Darkseid be good. It makes no sense and just goes against every grain of the character.I am just dissapointed that this is another "Superman turns evil" storyline!
This sums up exactly why I hate this change in Injustice: Gods Among Us. It doesn't make sense for Superman to be an evil dictator enacting an eye for an eye justice rather than a fairer moral value system he holds. Why can't writers make Superman an interesting character without having to make him evil?
I don't think Supes is really "evil" just extremely pissed and lost faith in a lot of things in this story I mean put yourself in his shoes, your close friends, people you love, work with all die...namely Lois and her unborn baby(Superman's wife and child) I think if he were evil he'd just kill every criminal on Earth which cleary he's not doing...
@Z3RO180 said:
@Vaeternus: i think the line for supes the now is just a wall of pure white hot rage
Pretty much, I think it's understandable personally but some people have Supes on this "he's God, can do nothing bad or always goody goody" attitude...I just think for this plot, that would be rather unrealistic even for a comic.
@lilben42 said:
@Vaeternus: Yeah I mean I knew Lois was going to die and I knew Supes was going to kill Joker but how it happened was un expected.
Yeah, it's cool I look forward to more :)
@JayJayCAW said:
The comics is turning out to be really good, I was expecting something like DC Universe Online comic......and that was horrible.....I'm glad this is so far 10x better :)
Don't remind me of that horrible comic series. Once they wrote Lex Luthor becomes a Green Lantern I stopped reading.
I can see why Superman would take up the role of a dictator. He wants all violence to end. I see why he blames Batman. Maybe this isn't a war about resisting, but also a personal war. Superman blames Batman for the death of Louis and his child. It's personal.
I got a feeling that somebody else has something to do with Joker killing Lois. Because the Joker appears to be still in the game's story after Supes takeover so who can bring the Joker back. I think Darkseid or Ra's al Ghul are pulling the strings.
@lilben42: For the first 3 issues, yes, it was unpredictable if you don't fully pay attention to the details and the little things to the story instead of focusing on the 'dramatic situation'. When you re-read the story, and put the pieces together; Batman and Jokers are in metropolis, experimental krypanite missing, then scarecrow's fear toxin is used on superman, and finally Lois, the most important person in Clark's life, is the victim of the Joker to be used for an horrific event despite the JLA doing their best efforts to track her down. When you look at the evidence you kinda get the idea of what's this about before the next issue is even out in a mini series. So yeah. Like I said, it wasn't a bad story it was pretty good, I just wished they tried a different approach a bit.
@darkman61288: I always had the thought that one of them or somebody else is doing this, no way in the world that the Joker can do all of this by himself, especially since he had to deal with Superman, and it wouldn't be too "FUN" for him if Superman decided to put Joker in jail on a different planet.
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