Inconsistant Power levels

#1 Posted by beowulfe (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I can get over the turning of the new DC into a Wildstorm retread however in the recent JLA Aquaman says to his brother 'he's the most powerful being on the planet and you've pissed him off'' yet twice he is knocked flying by Atlanteans.So either they have gotten a huge boost in the strength department or Superman's abilites are not being shown at the same levels all the time.Yes there is fatigue, caught off guard etc, but even that doesn't explain how an Atlantean who could easily whup a human's butt can knock the most powerful being on the planet flying out of control.If the explanation is his powers wan the longer away from the sun's rays then he is always away from it it seems.

#2 Posted by argusx (94 posts) - - Show Bio

@beowulfe:

It's Aquaman's story arc with a fanboy for a writer so this happening isn't really shocking and there's probalby worse to come.

#3 Posted by Z3RO180 (5941 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx could not have said it better myself

#4 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman's power levels are about as crazy as the Joker.

#5 Posted by toptom (1140 posts) - - Show Bio

@argusx said:

@beowulfe:

It's Aquaman's story arc with a fanboy for a writer so this happening isn't really shocking and there's probalby worse to come.

mainly this.

plus we can say that the lightning was possibly magical and that ocean master has sucker-blasted supes while he was fighting his army. however supes was not damaged at all by aquaman or the other guy,he was caught off guard....but even this, is still a bad showing for him.dc just uses this strategy often: if somebody can hurt or annoy superman he is a bad ass.

#6 Posted by Teerack (4543 posts) - - Show Bio

The "explanation" of how inconsistent Superman's power is, is because his power comes from the sun, and it keeps getting used up and replenished, so his power level changes depending on how much yellow sun energy he has left in him.

#7 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

In most stories, Superman is not portrayed as too powerful and even Cyborg can probably knock out Superman.

#8 Posted by spetsnaz_gru (235 posts) - - Show Bio

How about we use the "he's-holding-back-then-got-sucker-punched" routine?

#9 Posted by sunhawk (550 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is PIS incarnate.

#10 Posted by drgnx (3510 posts) - - Show Bio

You have to remember, that Superman was sent flying because he was off-guard, just like the Wonder Woman's attack. Superman still wieghs the amount as a normal human, there is no reason why someone with Super Strength can't send him flying, but the fact he was dazed is impressive, but I'm sure that a trained fight can daze people stronger than them with a well connected punch.

#11 Posted by ComicStooge (9565 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:

You have to remember, that Superman was sent flying because he was off-guard, just like the Wonder Woman's attack. Superman still wieghs the amount as a normal human, there is no reason why someone with Super Strength can't send him flying, but the fact he was dazed is impressive, but I'm sure that a trained fight can daze people stronger than them with a well connected punch.

This. Magic could have also been involved.

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#12 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Superman became dazed bec Aquaman was using his magic fish based deodorant ?

#13 Posted by UltimateSMfan (1164 posts) - - Show Bio

@toptom said:

@argusx said:

@beowulfe:

It's Aquaman's story arc with a fanboy for a writer so this happening isn't really shocking and there's probalby worse to come.

mainly this.

plus we can say that the lightning was possibly magical and that ocean master has sucker-blasted supes while he was fighting his army. however supes was not damaged at all by aquaman or the other guy,he was caught off guard....but even this, is still a bad showing for him.dc just uses this strategy often: if somebody can hurt or annoy superman he is a bad ass.

This!!!!!^ Absolutely This!! u guys literally just spoke my mind!

#14 Posted by JohnReese (15 posts) - - Show Bio

His appearances in JLA have him being knocked around by jus about every villain.Darkseid,Cheetah,Greaves and now this.i am sorry but I really find his potrayal in this series to be really inconsistent.There should be no excuses because Geoff Jones is supposed ot be a good gauge of power levels.Aquaman shouldnt even have time to get his trident out before Supes flattens him with his superspeed alone.

#15 Edited by drgnx (3510 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnReese:

Superman can be sucker punched, he seems to know Batman well enough to know when a punch is coming, but I guess some can still get him off-guard.

@UltimateSMfan said:

@toptom said:

@argusx said:

@beowulfe:

It's Aquaman's story arc with a fanboy for a writer so this happening isn't really shocking and there's probalby worse to come.

mainly this.

plus we can say that the lightning was possibly magical and that ocean master has sucker-blasted supes while he was fighting his army. however supes was not damaged at all by aquaman or the other guy,he was caught off guard....but even this, is still a bad showing for him.dc just uses this strategy often: if somebody can hurt or annoy superman he is a bad ass.

This!!!!!^ Absolutely This!! u guys literally just spoke my mind!

I agree to a point, but I think Aquaman might be getting an upgrade, he went toe to toe with Wonder Woman and took a punch from her that sent him flying. Aquaman is selling well now, and it is not uncommon for heroes that sell well to get upgrades. Without Martian Manhunter there is no reason why Aquaman can't be more a physical force as along as he does not become overpowered. Plus he is in water, so he should have some advantage. Still I think Superman would wreck him once he is revved up and focused. Personally, I think Aquaman in water should be able to hold his 'ground' to Wonder Woman, but lose outside, but with at least a little bit of effort from her. I think she was holding back and that is why she used her rope.

Also, on the flip side, remember, this was not a blood-lusted fight, Aquaman might not hold back because he knows he can't really hurt them, but they might hold back because they know they could hurt him badly if they didn't, and because they didn't expect him to seriously attack them.

#16 Edited by comicfan11 (740 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a new continuity.
Aquaman and the Atlanteans are THAT strong. In every other case they wouldn't be threat, hence they would become pointless.
In the Graves storyline AQ lifted an entire ocean liner full of passengers. That's in the 100.000 tons scale.
Get used to it people. 
This is Aquaman's consistent power level since the NuDC began.
Nothing for Superfans to be ashamed of.
 
Plus Ocean Master was always a magic user.
The lightning was magic
Plus Superman was not koed or anything from Aquaman, just knocked back.
 
And just to note in the same issue Aquaman speedblitzed Wonder Woman AFTER she attacked him first from behind.
He is that fast. 

#17 Posted by marvel123 (356 posts) - - Show Bio

in the justice league doom animated movie........Ace (who has super strength) broke his hand/arm while punching superman dead in the face..............that is superman done the right way

#18 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 said:

It's a new continuity.
Aquaman and the Atlanteans are THAT strong. In every other case they wouldn't be threat, hence they would become pointless.
In the Graves storyline AQ lifted an entire ocean liner full of passengers. That's in the 100.000 tons scale.
Get used to it people.
This is Aquaman's consistent power level since the NuDC began.
Nothing for Superfans to be ashamed of.

Plus Ocean Master was always a magic user.
The lightning was magic.
Plus Superman was not koed or anything from Aquaman, just knocked back.

And just to note in the same issue Aquaman speedblitzed Wonder Woman AFTER she attacked him first from behind. He is that fast.

Aquaman was this strong prior to the reboot, too. He lifted up San Diego after it sank during infinite Crisis.

#19 Posted by roboadmiral (509 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, when you have a character who can haul around planets and survive supernovas, there's not a lot you can do to create valid threats for him shy of sicking the Elder Gods him. I think Superman warrants nerfing every once in a while. It keeps things interesting.

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