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Character » Superman appears in 9539 issues.

Rocketed to Earth as an infant from the doomed planet of Krypton, young Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind from oppression while championing truth, justice, and the American way!

How Do We Fix Superman?

Posted by sleepykidd (15 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

You’ve heard of Superman.

And how could you have not? There hasn’t been a child born in fifty years who hasn’t wrapped a towel around their neck and imagined that as they soared high above the world people would point toward the sky exclaiming: “It’s a bird, it’s a plane…”

Superman isn’t just the first popular superhero, he’s THE hero whose traits have been imparted to countless comic book champions that have followed the man of steel.

Problem is, all the Spider-mans, Wolverines, and Deadpool antics just blow olde Supes out of the water. He can take off the glasses, but he’s still boring Clark Kent next to the avengers.

So how do you make Superman exciting again?

Lets back up for a minute, we might already have the answer: You’ve heard of Superman.

The last son of Krypton’s greatest power might not be heat vision or ice breath, but the ability to be instantly recognizable. As a brand, the S symbol is arguably as well known as the McDonald’s M or Disney’s mouse head. But with that great power comes great responsibility, which hasn’t been properly executed often in the case of modern Superman.

As much as it is a strength, the point is, so much is commonly known about Superman. He’s such a icon in pop culture that when DC tries to introduce him to a new audience it usually ends up being somewhat boring. Usually being the key word.

Smallville on the other hand, was accepted as a successfully different take on Clark Kent and his surrounding mythos. By playing the prequel card, viewers could see a younger, less experienced farmboy from Krypton struggle to become the man we all knew he’d become. That was the fun of it, seeing where Clark picked up those dorky glasses or what inspired the classic S symbol.

But how do we make that lightning strike twice?

That’s exactly what DC and Grant Morrison are trying to accomplish during DC’s big re-numbering extravaganza. Come September, all DC comics will begin new story-lines with a slightly altered continuity in order to make the companies extensive history more user friendly. In this case, Superman is going to be rebuilt from the ground up.

In Grant Morrison’s Action Comics #1, (which takes it’s name and issue number from the very first appearance of the Man of Steel,) Clark Kent’s social awkwardness is no act. The new title begins with Ma and Pa Kent being long dead and Clark being nowhere near courting his once long time spouse Lois Lane.

Without the people that matter most to him, Clark is very much still an alien. Without those roots where does he go, what identity does he have left? Another beat Morrison isn’t skipping in the new Action Comics is while he may be a hero, Superman is still very much different, something people aren’t prone to openly accepting. With new conflicts inside and out, Superman is starting to get a little more relatable isn’t he?

Now that Supes himself is a little more busy, what about his foes? While there is a certain joy that comes from watching Superman foil 1930’s bank robbers, Superman needs a legitimate threat in order to keep a readership’s attention. But at what level of power should the Man of Steel play? It’s my opinion that while Kal-El can comfortably remain the strongest being on earth, he should struggle to defeat other aliens.

But Superman’s battles aren’t all about pure brawn, many of his classic antagonists fight with industrial, political, and ideological fronts at their core. A new villain appearing in this October’s issue of Superman is entirely undetectable to all of Kent’s super senses but completely visible to everyone else.

With yet another major reboot film on its way from Zack Snyder, will Superman appeal to movie goers as he once did? Has Snyder looked closely at the mistakes of Super Man Returns? Whether or not it can translate to the big screen, there is clearly potential for a much more enjoyable Man of Tomorrow

#1 Posted by Gambit1024 (9878 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Very nice post :)

Yeah, with Morrison's new take on the character's roots (which, I'll admit, I was very skeptical of) Superman just got cool again! (HE WAS ALWAYS COOL TO ME THOUGH!) And the way he's written in JLA, and with all the appearances he made in various books in the New 52, makes him that much more awesome.

Now for this:

With yet another major reboot film on its way from Zack Snyder, will Superman appeal to movie goers as he once did? Has Snyder looked closely at the mistakes of Super Man Returns? Whether or not it can translate to the big screen, there is clearly potential for a much more enjoyable Man of Tomorrow

I think the answer is a resounding "YES". Zack Snyder, the dude who brought 300 and Watchmen to the big screen, is more than capable than giving moviegoers an excellent Superman experience. If he's given source material (and he's literally got more than 70 years of it), he can do anything. Look at 300. That movie was badass. Look at Watchmen. Was it close to the book? Sure, with the exception of the giant squid monster at the end (which I personally wouldn't have wanted to see). Zack knows how to make a good comic book movie.

Now I know you're probably thinking "WUT ABOWT SUKER PUNCH!?!?!?". Listen, I said he can make a good comic book movie. That movie was completely on him. There was no source material. There was no supervision by Christopher Nolan (which I'll get to). There was only Snyder, who watched a lot of crappy anime and smoked a lot of weed, and a decent budget. Even if you hated that movie (and I know there's a lot of you) it looked pretty. At least give it that. If you want Superman to fight against villains like Zod, Brainiac, Bizarro, Doomsday or Darkseid, Snyder's your guy to do it. Fight scenes is this dude's everything. Look at 300 again.

Another reason this movie can't fail us is Superman Returns. Superman Returns was the prime example of how NOT to make a Superman film. He didn't fight anything. He levitated in places and stared like some weird Space-Jesus. He lifted things he shouldn't have lifted (Kryptonite mountain. Really.). And they made Superman (MY CHILDHOOD HERO) an illegitimate father to a kid who's more boring than the movie itself (how is that even possible, anyway). Snyder has been given this movie as an opportunity to make a film that cannot- repeat-CANNOT suck as hard as that one. And you have Chris Nolan (the same brilliant man behind Batman Begins and TDK) overlooking the project. This movie. Can. Not. Fail.

And if it does, I'll hulk out into a blind rage and eviscerate everyone responsible for the film's downfall. Simple as that! :D

#2 Posted by cattlebattle (11097 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio
@Gambit1024 said:

Very nice post :)

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Now I know you're probably thinking "WUT ABOWT SUKER PUNCH!?!?!?". Listen, I said he can make a good comic book movie. That movie was completely on him. There was no source material. There was no supervision by Christopher Nolan (which I'll get to). There was only Snyder, who watched a lot of crappy anime and smoked a lot of weed, and a decent budget. Even if you hated that movie (and I know there's a lot of you) it looked pretty. At least give it that. If you want Superman to fight against villains like Zod, Brainiac, Bizarro, Doomsday or Darkseid, Snyder's your guy to do it. Fight scenes is this dude's everything. Look at 300 again.



I disagree with two things
 
1) I'm not defending Superman Returns as it wasn't the greatest movie, but, people always blast the film for "he didn't fight anything". I mean he is a super hero...and naturally super heroes always fight a villain...but then again the original 1979 Superman is regarded as one of the best super hero films of all time and Supes did not fight anyone it. I guess I'm trying to say it is still possible to make a good super hero movie without crazy violence.
 
2) Zack Snyders action scenes aren't that great, I found 300s slow motion kind of redundant, and if I thought the corniest parts of Watchmen were the fight sequences, especially the prison scene where they are posing/fighting.....so silly.
#3 Posted by Gambit1024 (9878 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle:

1) I'm not the biggest fan of the original Superman movie. I actually found it boring to be honest. Sure, it's definitely possible to make a decent superhero film without crazy amounts of violence, but in today's world, you need a little bit of it. The most heated scene in Returns was when Luthor kicked Superman in the face. That was it. Superman's super. Give him something to hit.

2) To each his own. The use of slow/fast motion in 300 was probably the best use of it I've ever seen in any movie. Made those scene's cool to watch. And I thought one of the better scenes in the Watchmen movie was the fight scene in the very beginning. Set the tone for the entire movie (which I really liked, btw). I agree the prison scene could have been better, but I think part of the reason it looked silly is because the costumes looked silly (and I know that was the intention of them). In Man of Steel, I don't think we'll get that problem. DC's made it clear that they don't want red "manties", but they want muted colors (something I don't fully agree with, but whatever, right?). The action scenes will be fine. I'm sure they'll be.

#4 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Very good post, I think what it boils down to is some people just don't like Superman, for reasons none of us Superman fans can understand. I have love Morrison's run, I think he really nails the character, he really gets both Supes and Clark and writes them perfectly, in not only the new Action Comics but also in All-Star Superman. Action Comics and Justice League sales numbers remain extremely high, I think more people are connecting with the character than there have been for years, even though in my opinion he hasn't needed any upgrades, I've always thought that Superman no matter the era was awesome (though I do particularly love the John Byrne Superman era the most!)

#5 Posted by cattlebattle (11097 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@Gambit1024 said:

@cattlebattle:

1) I'm not the biggest fan of the original Superman movie. I actually found it boring to be honest. Sure, it's definitely possible to make a decent superhero film without crazy amounts of violence, but in today's world, you need a little bit of it. The most heated scene in Returns was when Luthor kicked Superman in the face. That was it. Superman's super. Give him something to hit.

2) To each his own. The use of slow/fast motion in 300 was probably the best use of it I've ever seen in any movie. Made those scene's cool to watch. And I thought one of the better scenes in the Watchmen movie was the fight scene in the very beginning. Set the tone for the entire movie (which I really liked, btw). I agree the prison scene could have been better, but I think part of the reason it looked silly is because the costumes looked silly (and I know that was the intention of them). In Man of Steel, I don't think we'll get that problem. DC's made it clear that they don't want red "manties", but they want muted colors (something I don't fully agree with, but whatever, right?). The action scenes will be fine. I'm sure they'll be.


Yeah. the very first Superman film is dated when compared to the super hero films that come out now, I mean, I saw it when I was a kid and there was not too many super hero films around back then, just Superman, Burton Batman...and the occasional low budget Marvel film. Also, if you get technical, Dark Knight didn't really have any insane fight scenes either, I mean he kind of subdues the Swat officers at the end...when you really analyze it, there is no insane fight sequence, but I guess the intensity of the situation makes it feel more energetic. I guess all I'm saying is I don't need to see pointless violence in a Superman movie, as long as the stories good
 
I agree the first fight scene was well done, with the music playing in the background, but, It was just mainly the Comedian getting the crap kicked out of him, if you look at the fight scene at the end with Rorschach and Nite Owl engaging Ozymandius, with the exception of Jackie Haley (I think thats the actors name who played Rorschach) who actually had some real fight training, it just looked too blatantly choreographed, There is a ton of super hero movies with fights involving actors with no fight or stunt training that look real and brutal...its just the way the director has it play out, and the camera angles he uses....what I'm trying to say Zack Snyder is not good at these things


#6 Posted by Gambit1024 (9878 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@cattlebattle: TDK had some decent violent action scenes: Batman vs. Scarecrow in the beginning, Batman vs. Joker and his dogs, Joker vs. the Tumbler (if that counts), etc. And like you said, the intensity of those situations adds to it a great deal. And Snyder's not writing it (thank god), so it looks like we'll be getting a good story. Good enough for Chris Nolan to say "yes" to.

Let me ask you some things. Of all the superhero films to come out to date, which fight scene was the best for you? Which was the worst? And where do the Zach Snyder scenes rank?

#7 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Agreed, not a whole lot of fight scenes in TDK, hopefully that is changed in DKR and we see some Bane vs Bats action. And we do have to think about the time period like you said, Superman really didn't have too many super-powered villains he could fight that could work on screen. Really only Zod, and we got him in the sequel. Brainiac and Bizarro wouldn't have worked too well on screen with the special effects they had back then imo (tho we did get a Quasi-Bizarro in Superman III) but I don't think that they could have pulled off the cracked face look back then. Other than that his villains were usually one-liners that appeared sporatically and were easily dealt with. Supes didn't have near the rogue gallery back then that he does now (Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Mongul, Superman Prime, etc) well I guess more like that he had 6 months ago :P

#8 Posted by cattlebattle (11097 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio
@MetropolisKid41 said:
Agreed, not a whole lot of fight scenes in TDK, hopefully that is changed in DKR and we see some Bane vs Bats action. And we do have to think about the time period like you said, Superman really didn't have too many super-powered villains he could fight that could work on screen. Really only Zod, and we got him in the sequel. Brainiac and Bizarro wouldn't have worked too well on screen with the special effects they had back then imo (tho we did get a Quasi-Bizarro in Superman III) but I don't think that they could have pulled off the cracked face look back then. Other than that his villains were usually one-liners that appeared sporatically and were easily dealt with. Supes didn't have near the rogue gallery back then that he does now (Doomsday, Cyborg Superman, Mongul, Superman Prime, etc) well I guess more like that he had 6 months ago :P
Yes, I expect the final installment of Nolans Bat trilogy to deliver....violence and all. As for Superman, I originally argued that Singers Superman movie is attacked all the time, I feel unfairly, Singers track record of super hero films (X-Men and Superman) have all been more "realistic" or practical, Superman already destroys the law of physics as is....and Superman Returns was suppose to be a sequel to the Donner movies which already had Zod, so, It's kind of logical that guys like Metallo (cyborg), Parasite (accidental meta-human) and Bizarro (clone, alternate universe thingy...whatever) wouldn't show up. I am not defending Superman Returns by saying it was good...it did drag on and the illegitimate son angle was a bit unnecessary, but I don't think it was horrible.
 
@Gambit1024 said:

@cattlebattle: TDK had some decent violent action scenes: Batman vs. Scarecrow in the beginning, Batman vs. Joker and his dogs, Joker vs. the Tumbler (if that counts), etc. And like you said, the intensity of those situations adds to it a great deal. And Snyder's not writing it (thank god), so it looks like we'll be getting a good story. Good enough for Chris Nolan to say "yes" to.

Let me ask you some things. Of all the superhero films to come out to date, which fight scene was the best for you? Which was the worst? And where do the Zach Snyder scenes rank?


Snyder not writing it is a thumbs up for me, I still dislike his directorial style, it's kind of too much.....subtlety is key "less is more". I'm not saying the movie will be bad, I actually can't wait for it.  
 
Of all the superhero movies?? I'm a stickler for the X-Men films, good or bad, I actually think that one of the coolest action scenes (even though it was from the worst of the trilogy)  is when Storm, Wolverine, Juggernaut and their version of "Callisto" tear up Jeans house in X3, I mean Juggernaut just throwing and punting Wolverine everywhere just looked like something straight out of a comic...it was nice, furthermore Nightcrawlers invasion of the White House in X2 was amazing, they even used his powers in ways I've never seen in the comics before during that, such as doubling back using teleportation to appear as if there is more than one of him and Bamfing frequently to create a smoke screen.... he does this as he bursts into the room and starts snatching people with his tail into the smoke....kind of as if it was for intimidation factor.....very good stuff.
 
I also like the fight sequences from most Blade movies, especially the more anime influenced ones from Blade 2, There has bee so many I have trouble recalling some of them, but the definite number 1 is Spidey vs Ock train fight from Spider-Man 2, that fight gave me chills to watch.
#9 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

We need for Superman to fight evil aliens and giant robots....Not just a guy holding a kryptonite

#10 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

From the on-set images and explosions we've seen from pictures leaked from the set there should be plenty of action scenes where Supes throws down with Zod and/or Fadora

#11 Posted by sleepykidd (15 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@Primmaster64: Yeah I think Superman's fights like the man himself, need to be larger than life.

#12 Posted by Kallarkz (3300 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@Primmaster64 said:

We need for Superman to fight evil aliens and giant robots....Not just a guy holding a kryptonite

This. I'd like them to create more guys like he fought last issue.

#13 Edited by Adnan (1037 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Rework his weakness to kyrptonite a little. It seems to vary from writer to writer anyway, I see it at times as simply making Superman weaker/slower/less of a threat, but sometimes I see it basically reduce him to a legless baby. I prefer the first one by far, the second one is a little silly.

He should still be a powerhouse, though I agree he shouldn't be so powerful that either they'd have to constantly make up absurd ultra-power cosmic entities for him to fight or simply have no one at his strength level.

The idea that he's a symbol of hope and justice, but a flawed one who is a worldwide symbol that can't be everywhere at once despite the demand for him, is the theme they should stick to with him, though I'm not sure how they should go about doing it.

#14 Posted by NightwalkerRevan (123 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@Adnan: I think this is an interesting idea, showing how Superman copes (or rather doesn't) cope with increasingly being seen as a messiah or god, when for all his power he is ultimately a man. Seeing him having to face the fact he can't always save everybody, maybe even facing him with situations where he has to make the hard choices of who to save in some situations. We could see him faced with the truth that he can't save everyone having to live with the consequences of it and the public reaction to the fact that in the end he is a hero but not the god their secretly look to him to be. It could create some great character development pieces.

#15 Posted by Darkmount1 (1201 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

There's one version of Superman that's a good primer for introducing new generations to him. The DCAU Superman pretty much was an amalgam of many elements of the Super-mythos, and the show did a good job balancing all that. What do you guys think?

#16 Edited by rpgr (331 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Never was a Superman fan till Action Comics #1 from Grant (or the animated series by Timm). First off, DC needs to stay away from the PIS super powers. He's stronger, faster and more durable than the normal man. That should be it. His brain doesn't think in nano seconds, he can't fly through red suns and come out not dead, super speed isn't less than light speed one issue and several times light speed the next (he shouldn't be light speed period, at least not sustainably, at most, short distances to dodge ala. anime afterimage) he actually does respond to his on paper weaknesses (aka no PIS invulnerability to them for some reason or other) and is not a skilled fighter (that's Bats and WW).

The problem was with past Superman, it was the fanboys telling DC what they wanted to see and we all know how exaggerated fanboys are about the abilities of their favorite heroes. Keep to the script and don't deviate. Nobody except kids wants to read a comic made by adults that have the logic of a kid. Sunlight gives off ~1.366 / meter squared. His energy regen should reflect that, in other words, he can't keep it up forever. You don't have to give out the science terms but that should be a guide to the limits of Supes powers. He can't do everything alone nor can he do everything period.

With that, he can interact with the rest of the DCU in a proper fashion. No man is an island, not even Superman. Having him level with other characters makes him immensely more interesting because it allows him the necessity of needing other characters. You can't tell me a comic about Batman beating up random crook # 278 is interesting. Batman has the best rogues gallery and supporting characters (as evidenced by the sheer amount of spin-offs) despite the fact that they are all "normal" (in the relative sense of comics to real life). by bringing Superman down to what i would call, his real not PIS level, you in turn bring up the rest of his cast and can then develop them in a way that in turn makes Superman interesting in return. Keep his powers "Super" but not "God". Do that and the rest of the stories and drama follows.

Another cheap and good way to make Superman instantly popular is to have him have very few friends and his best friend should be Bruce Wayne (but not Batman, Clark respects Batman not to try to learn his identity, God, that's situation comedy gold right there) >:)

#17 Posted by PowerHerc (50937 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

I think he's better, a lot better, than Wolverine, Deadpool, Spider-man and can be just as exciting as the Avengers. I didn't/don't think he needs to be fixed, but he's been rebooted again recently, so apparently DC did think he needed fixing.

Is he fixed now?

#18 Posted by rpgr (331 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@PowerHerc: Depends on how sales do. If he ain't hanging with at least x-men or avengers level in sales, he ain't fixed.

#19 Posted by PowerHerc (50937 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

@rpgr said:

@PowerHerc: Depends on how sales do. If he ain't hanging with at least x-men or avengers level in sales, he ain't fixed.

That's a good point; it's all about the money. No profit, no comics.

#20 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio
@sleepykidd: @Gambit1024: @MetropolisKid41: @cattlebattle: I recently talked with Dan Didio and I told him that using Lex as a villain has gotten boring and he agreed...Maybe we'll see Supes fighting big guys again.
#21 Posted by StarKiller809 (1204 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

I really like your points and agree with a lot of them. I think that we could fix Superman but giving him villains how have powers and actually are stronger then him. He should have to find a way to over come the villain and win the battle. Superman has often been portrayed as super, super strong and I don't think that we see a villain often enough that we think it could just own Superman. I think if you saw some more of that, things would be good.

#22 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

Good deal! I assume with Zod in the upcoming movie that there will be a place for him in the New 52 Superman books coming up here in the next 18 months. Maybe he's the villain behind the monsters Supes has been battling in the Superman book. In the past 4 or 5 years Mongul has become more of a Green Lantern villain, I would like to see him become more of a foe to Superman again like he was in the Byrne-era (The story Exiled is awesome, check it out if you haven't).

#23 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio
@MetropolisKid41: Indeed my friend both Mongul and Cyborg Superman.
#24 Posted by MetropolisKid41 (515 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

I like Cyborg Superman as villain, I really do, but I feel they've used him a lot lately, especially in Green Lantern. It appears that Alpha Lantern Boodika succeeded in finally killing him for good. I be okay with him remaining dead for a while before they bring him back. I do really hope that the Eradicator comes back in the New 52. He was definitely my favorite part of the new mythos introduced after Crisis on Infinite Earths (again check out Exiled and Eradication! for details on how sweet the Eradicator is to Krypton's past).

#25 Posted by kimeraevet (188 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

You could start by making him more like Joe Casey's Mr. Majestic. Not completely like him, but more so in the way he handles problems on a planetary scale. I like the new attitude and cocky swagger. Even his Clark Kent persona is ballsy. The Morrison take on the character was always good, but it is even better now. It might even be fun to have him and Majestic working together in a competitive way. Have Majestic as the hard line nobleman and Superman as the Steve McQueen-esque bad ass. With Morrison its all up in the air to happen. I love it! It is like All Star Superman again only with more sly grins and showing off. I hope the new interpretations for his rogues holds up to what has been shown so far. Brainiac needs a new name and to be brought up to Galactus level. Luthor should become a Batman villian, just because it would be interesting. Bring on the galactic threats and have him do more than just walk the country to reconnect with humanity. he isn't human, he isn't a mere man. He is the Superman. It is time he was made to act like it and we were able to see it.

#26 Posted by War Killer (17688 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio

I really liked how Grant Morrison is writing Superman in Action Comics currently, I love that Superman can be hurt more easily...sure he's Superman and is well..."super" but I liked that he can go up against villains, who he use to wipe the floor with, and can now get hurt and actually make the fight more interesting and uncertain. As well, I like how Morrison writes him as being more arrogant, something that Superman shows as well in Justice League, with Clark realizing he's the "Man of Steel" and letting it go to his head a bit while still having good intentions for his rash actions.

#27 Posted by Primmaster64 (21131 posts) - 1 year, 6 months ago - Show Bio
@War Killer: While  prefer that people just as strong or stronger than Superman can hurt him....it is pretty cool how things are....just wish he won't stay that weak for long.
#28 Posted by buttersdaman000 (7085 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

I've always said that Superman needs to go cosmic for awhile with more space adventures. 
He doesnt need to be weakened at all, in fact he could even be stronger. All he needs is bigger, badder, better, and stronger villains. 

#29 Posted by KingofMadCows (345 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

The problem with Superman's villains is that the really powerful ones are not relatable enough. One reason why Batman's villains are so interesting is because you can feel for them and have some understanding of what kind of people they are on a more personal level. That's why Batman: TAS worked so well, it made a lot of villains much more sympathetic like Mr. Freeze, Two-Face, Clayface, Baby Doll, etc., so you have a much more emotional connection with them and it made you feel sad for them.

There are only so many massive threats you can throw against Superman. Sure you can create a sense of dread and fear with an extremely powerful villain but you can't rely on that for every villain. You can't just have Superman fight one massive galaxy conquering empire after another and still be able to maintain that same sense of impending doom.

Superman could definitely benefit from a few more Batmanesque villains, ones who became villains through circumstances beyond their control and have some hope of redemption. However, I think that what Superman really needs are villains and problems that challenged him on a more ideological level. They can go pretty philosophical with Superman, beyond the whole god among mortals thing they like to bring up. There are also issues of free will, choice, and destiny that they can really explore with Superman. It's not just a matter of Superman using his powers on other people, it's a matter of all the possibilities and choices that are open to him by virtue of him having those powers.

#30 Posted by Hazlenaut (1679 posts) - 1 year, 5 months ago - Show Bio

How this for a line “The world needs Superman. No, the world needs not to be so dependent,” How that for an antagonist line to hear in a trailer.

How about bringing Gala back from superman the animated series? Her turning evil was rushed as they stated she was misguided. She wears armors even though she is invulnerable meaning she is sentimental of her past. She was Jax-Ur assistant I do not think she knew he was evil.

In Wikipedia it said that there another mala in the 1950s he was cruel tyrant who had two brother. Now if we say those two are related and say that male mala was cruel due to red kryptonite. There is your character depth a female Kryptonian who has her father’s name worked in rebellion thinking it is for the good. Now that Krypton was destroyed does that mean the rebellion was needed? Now she has the power and in a world that she does not know and know not of her. Now you could make her a solder, a criminal, it’s blank slate that can be use for whatever purpose.

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