@zeejaybay: Everyone doesn't hate Superman. Everyone hates Superman fans. Not you in particular, but the fanboys in general are way too aggressive in their support of Supes. They kinda remind me of Tebow fans. Just plain obnoxious.

@Night Thrasher said:

@zeejaybay: Everyone doesn't hate Superman. Everyone hates Superman fans. Not you in particular, but the fanboys in general are way too aggressive in their support of Supes. They kinda remind me of Tebow fans. Just plain obnoxious.

@zeejaybay: This. Even though Bats is one of my favorite characters, Superman would be pretty cool if it wasn't for the fanboys. They make him sound like he is a damn god and that no one can beat him. Just a few days ago most of them started boasting about how goku was defeated by superman and I just wanted them to ( forgive me mods) shut the fuck up. I guess people like batman more because well he is a frickin super hero without any superpowers which makes him special. Some people think superman has too many powers.

The way I see it, it's hard being a fan period. Wether you are a Superman, Batman, Hulk or Deadpool fan. Wether you like Synder, Bendis, or Morrison. It is hard being a fan cause there will always be haters to get under your skin. People love to express their hate.

seems like it's much easier to be a fan of batman, wolverine, thor,silver surfer, wonder woman, deadpool, ect. those characters are constantly evolving, and have a strong fanbase.

idk i gues people are getting tired of a hero that could fly to the in in less than 8 min, move dwarf planets if he needed to,exert hurricane force winds with his breath, use heat vision, ect.

i guess people don't like seeing overpowered characters, idk.

for me, i'll always be a superman fan.....or at least a fan of the kryptonians

This'll be Superman's year ;)

You know what really sucks?

Being a Stilt-Man fan.

Just a little perspective for ya.

@MrShway88 said:

The way I see it, it's hard being a fan period. Wether you are a Superman, Batman, Hulk or Deadpool fan. Wether you like Synder, Bendis, or Morrison. It is hard being a fan cause there will always be haters to get under your skin. People love to express their hate.

this@Aiden Cross said:

This'll be Superman's year ;)

@Gambit1024 said:

I feel you, OP. Don't worry too much, though. 2013's gonna be a good year for us. You'll see.

but also this :)

i think mostly that is hard to be a superman fan,since his comics are usally...bad. the last years of his pre-52 continuity were awful except for some stories.

though i don't remeber that i have ever been so excited for his comics as i am this year. he seems to have again his old power level but he has still many enemies that are stronger than him...as helspont ( and i love that character).

plus he is getting a new amazing title...plus he is getting an amazing film! so 2013 will be a nice year after all.

Batman has aged better and is now doing ok in both comics and movies. Superman and Wonder Woman were also invented in the golden age but unfortunately saddled with silly elements for children that adults nowadays make fun of. Green Lantern is currently doing better as a space superhero similar to Jedi Knights. The Flash was also invented in the golden age and was unbelievable even in the golden age bec he was running at light speed even in the golden age. They did remember to add a mask for Flash in the silver age but forgot to do the same for Superman and Wonder Woman.

@Night Thrasher said:

@zeejaybay: Everyone doesn't hate Superman. Everyone hates Superman fans. Not you in particular, but the fanboys in general are way too aggressive in their support of Supes. They kinda remind me of Tebow fans. Just plain obnoxious.

The only reason Superman fans are aggressive is because of all the hate Superman gets these days.

@HeroFromKrypton said:

@Night Thrasher said:

@zeejaybay: Everyone doesn't hate Superman. Everyone hates Superman fans. Not you in particular, but the fanboys in general are way too aggressive in their support of Supes. They kinda remind me of Tebow fans. Just plain obnoxious.

The only reason Superman fans are aggressive is because of all the hate Superman gets these days.

Agreed, plus theres far worse fanbases out there

People were making jokes about Superman since I was a kid so I would estimate Superman was out of date and silly since the 1960s.

Superman doesn't get "hated" nearly as much as people say he does. A lot of people like the character and almost everyone respects him. But just because he isn't someone's favorite character or don't think he's the most powerful character doesn't mean they hate him.

The marvel super heroes were invented after most of the dc super heroes so the marvel super heroes avoided most of the out of date features of the dc super heroes which started as stories for kids in the golden age. Marvel creators also had teen readers in mind and had a more adult take on their super heroes which currently translate better to live action movies. Like Iron Man has a full mask which makes it more believable that he can keep a secret identity altho he did not keep it for long in the movies since with modern technology, it is just hard to keep a secret identity in a realistic movie. Spider Man also has a full mask which also is more believable that he can actually keep a secret identity in spite of the amazing technology that the American government now has. Many marvel super heroes also have no secret identity which is more believable nowadays.

@colonyofcells: That's not entirely true. Timely had just as many if not more heroes during the Golden Age as DC did. The difference is when the Silver Age came Marvel basically started from scratch wereas DC revamped Golden Age characters. Marvel didn't really have teenagers in mind when they wrote their stories they just figured out that kids weren't as dumb as people thought and wrote stories that both kids and adults could enjoy.

Both Kirby and Lee worked on Romance comics during the 1950s when there were few super heroes around before creating Thor, Hulk, iron man, x-men, etc. during the silver age so I am sure they were more used to creating stuff for older people. Whereas the dc stuff had more silly stuff for kids and this lasted up to the bronze age when dc fired many of the silver age creators and replaced them with new talent plus many marvel creators like Gerry Conway, Steve Englehart, Roy Thomas, George Perez, etc.

@colonyofcells said:

People were making jokes about Superman since I was a kid so I would estimate Superman was out of date and silly since the 1960s.

Why are you so annoying?

Maybe I am a mutant and have amazing social networking super powers ? I think the New 52 is an improvement and hopefully, the jokes about underwear on the outside will finally die out after a few years which I have heard since I was a kid. More improvements are needed bec in the new Superman movie, Superman still looks like a male ballet dancer if you put Superman side by side with Iron Man and Wolverine. In New 52, the armor still looks like spandex which sort of beats the purpose of switching to armor. I championed the switch to an armor costume in the old dc forums before Flashpoint hit and I am very happy to be right, sometimes. I also championed using Philip Wylie's Gladiator and the 1938 illegal vigilante/terrorist Superman for a darker Superman in both comics and the movies.

With 3 solo titles, Superman is still doing better than Wonder Woman (1), Hal Jordan (1), Barry Allen (1) in the comics. I would be more alarmed if there are 3 Hal Jordan books and only 1 Superman book. It does look like some creators do prefer to work on Batman and Hal Jordan, and there are also a few creators who prefer to work on Superman. Don't know if rumors of a 2nd Wonder Woman title are true.

The constant hate rants are pretty annoying

My guess is Warner must've spent a bundle to win the rights cases against the superman creators. Now dc seems to be putting in better writers and artists on the upcoming 3rd Superman title by Jim Collar Lee himself. Geoff seems to be the Hal loyalist.

Superman seems to be doing better than Aquaman always. Maybe bec many Americans don't like the smell of fish.

Most people judge Superman by the way he look's and the powers he has, rather than the character itself. Non-comic readers always think Supes has no problem dealing with anything because of his abilities. They also seem to think Lex is his only enemy (Damn you Superman Returns).

Im going to be honest with you these writers at DC are fucking retarded cause they seem to forget how to make superman deep. You know how they could make superman deep and complex DC, hes a FUCKING SCIENCE FICTION CHARACTER!!!!!! I swear man its easy to make superman deep in the realm hes based on sci fi and use complex stories with him dealing with Science Fiction themes of reality ( Philip K Dick Stuff) with Mr Myziplix shit i spelled his name wrong but you guys get the idea. You can easliy make a Sandman like Superman story with that villian with he taking to alternate timelines and seeing reality differently. You can have a Blade Runner type story with superman dealing with what it means to be human and not trying to be the sheep of society and be human. DC forgot that completly cause originally Jerry Siegal and Joel Shuster want superman to be a Science Fiction character that dealt with themes of science fiction. DC use supermans science fiction genre to your advantage or hire me to do it for you lol.