when superman first came out he didn't have this weakness. they gave it to him because he was op at the time. however, there are other super heroes who are on his level. isn't it time to get rid of his kryptonite weakness? Other super heroes can lose theirs. MM lost his fire weakness. I think it's time to give clark a bump.
Superman
Character » Superman appears in 18940 issues.
Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!
get rid of kryptonite and magic weakness?
isn't it time to get rid of his kryptonite weakness?
No.
MM lost his fire weakness.
That's stupid.
No. Superman always wins anyway even against characters more powerful than him and kryptonite only works 50% of the time anyway. Besides, it would screw with his origin. Otherwise, there's no reason his race should have died when the planet exploded.
@opis34: alright then
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
@jayc1324 said:No. Superman always wins anyway even against characters more powerful than him and kryptonite only works 50% of the time anyway. Besides, it would screw with his origin. Otherwise, there's no reason his race should have died when the planet exploded.
His race died because they were under a read sun that made them powerless.
Anyway, every hero always beats their enemies, regardless of how strong they are.
when superman first came out he didn't have this weakness. they gave it to him because he was op at the time. however, there are other super heroes who are on his level. isn't it time to get rid of his kryptonite weakness? Other super heroes can lose theirs. MM lost his fire weakness. I think it's time to give clark a bump.
Did he? Can someone tell me the issue that says that?
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
^I agree. Kryptonites to iconic to get rid of.
when superman first came out he didn't have this weakness. they gave it to him because he was op at the time. however, there are other super heroes who are on his level. isn't it time to get rid of his kryptonite weakness? Other super heroes can lose theirs. MM lost his fire weakness. I think it's time to give clark a bump.
No. Superman is already viewed overpowered. If the weaknesses had to go. Supes be weaker and more vulnerable to human weapons.
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
^I agree. Kryptonites to iconic to get rid of.
This.
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
This, so much this
They should not get read of the weaknesses but these should be used rarely.
Magic shouldn't even be consider his weakness, because nearly everyone is vulnerable to magic lol
If they get rid of Kryptonite it's no biggie, because at the end of the day I'm still going to be a Superman fan regardless if Kryptonite his weakness or not.
I wish they picked a way that kryptonite worked and stuck with it. 3 years into the New-52 the way kryptonite worked has already changed.
How does it work now?
isn't it time to get rid of his kryptonite weakness?
No.
MM lost his fire weakness.
That's stupid.
is it stupid that mm lost his weakness to fire or the fact that i brought it up?
if they don't get rid of the kryptonite weakness than i agree with u guys...they should make it much rarer. it seems like everyone and their mom can find kryptonite sometimes. that magic 'weakness' should be removed.
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
Why would they drop the red sun thing? Red suns don't recharge him and if he fights while under a red sun, he won't get recharged, so he'll get weaker in direct proportion to the amount of energy he exerts using his powers. If he gets hit with a red sun blast, the strike drains his reserves faster than a normal hit because the red solar energy occupies the space that yellow energy would take up.
The problem with kryptonite, isn't its existance but rather the quantity that exits on Earth. At first I thought that in the New 52 they were gonna make it extremely more rare seeing that there was no meteor shower of kryptonite, the only initial kryptonite that existed was the shards that the military managed to extract from Kal-El's ship engine core. And even there it was only a few shards. True that at the time in Action Comics when the Legion came with Superman to the past to save his ship, the engine core was destroyed and the Legion only managed to save a small piece, but they said that it would grow back. At the time I assumed they were refering to the fact that the piece of kryptonite once in the ship, the sunstone would replicate and regrow the engine core, but now, I've seen so much kryptonite that it seems that a large part of Krypton fell on Earth.
Another thing that I find stupid or at least very weird is the fact that all isotopes of kryptonite have negative effects. They never show for example different types of kryptonite that had actual positive effects. They could have made blue-K having a reverse effect from that of green-K, or even having Superman create all new types of kryptonite that helped of added something to him. Immunity to certain types of K or new powers.
Magic is just something natural to be vulnerable to. Magic in its essence its the breaking of the laws of reality, and has such it's natural that Superman and any other non-magical being would be vulnerable.
True that Kon and H'el have shown a certain degree of immunity to magic, but Superboy has his telekinesis and H'el had immense psionic powers due to him having been exposed to more powerful types of stars and cosmic energies.
In fact Superman could make himself immune to a certain point to kryptonite and magic, seeing that he has other powers beyond those he uses. But the writers wont do it! Why!? Because anything to do with the improvement of Superman is seen has taboo. Ever since the silver age, any improvement is either a one time deal or gets excluded somehow.
And strangely enough they only have this problem with Superman.
@christianrapper: That he lost is weakness at all.
The magic vulnerability should've been dropped a long time ago, along with that stupid red sun weakness. However, keep the Kryptonite.
Why would they drop the red sun thing? Red suns don't recharge him and if he fights while under a red sun, he won't get recharged, so he'll get weaker in direct proportion to the amount of energy he exerts using his powers. If he gets hit with a red sun blast, the strike drains his reserves faster than a normal hit because the red solar energy occupies the space that yellow energy would take up.
I know how it works. It's just a stupid weakness.....Superman doesn't need 3 weaknesses when people just as powerful as him have none. Kryptonite is enough
those other supermen show resistance to magic because it's not from his world. people keep forgetting that superman is usually weak to magic or kryptonite from their own world. why the heck does everyone know supe's weaknesses anyway? also, making a red son radiation gun or something like that should be very hard. if they are going to make superman weak to kryptonite then they should show him scanning for it before he lands. he can see people from space. he should be able to spot kryptonite from at least halfway around he globe. he could just blow it up or blow it away with his super breath before he lands.
IMO, magic and cosmic forces are the same thing, Superman is a cosmic being himself and thusly has no issues dealing with supernatural power due to him being a lifeform that has defied universal limits before. Maybe magic is cosmic energy that is bound by it's own quantum laws and limits. Therefore the man of steel is Magic and science combined.
No. Superman always wins anyway even against characters more powerful than him and kryptonite only works 50% of the time anyway. Besides, it would screw with his origin. Otherwise, there's no reason his race should have died when the planet exploded.
Don't the heroes win most of the time anyway. Superman wins because he's the Hero. Plenty of experiences show that Evil Superman, despite normally being the same person, does not have a winning track record.
Except their planet exploded. I don't think the Kryptonians died from Kryptonite radiation. Pretty sure the explosion killed them.
IMO, magic and cosmic forces are the same thing, Superman is a cosmic being himself and thusly has no issues dealing with supernatural power due to him being a lifeform that has defied universal limits before. Maybe magic is cosmic energy that is bound by it's own quantum laws and limits. Therefore the man of steel is Magic and science combined.
What standards are you using to say he's defied universal limits? I'm sure 10 years ago, Prime Earth had very similar limits to our own, but with the rise in Superhero/Natural activity, that's likely not the case anymore.
@scouterv: well that's the point, heroes always win anyway
Dude, people won't stop bitching about how boringly invincible Superman is (which he isn't) and now you want them to get rid of the best argument we have?
@christianrapper: I think everyone knows his weakness or weaknesses, due to the fact that Superman does not kill (ordinarily) and his enemies whom are alive and well, talk amongst one another.
@scouterv: My point is that it doesn't matter if he has weaknesses or not, he will always win. There can be a man in a kryptonite suit and superman will still win so there's no point to remove the weakness because it doesn't matter anyway.
IMO, magic and cosmic forces are the same thing, Superman is a cosmic being himself and thusly has no issues dealing with supernatural power due to him being a lifeform that has defied universal limits before. Maybe magic is cosmic energy that is bound by it's own quantum laws and limits. Therefore the man of steel is Magic and science combined.
he is definitely not magic at all where did you get this omg hilarious.
IMO, magic and cosmic forces are the same thing, Superman is a cosmic being himself and thusly has no issues dealing with supernatural power due to him being a lifeform that has defied universal limits before. Maybe magic is cosmic energy that is bound by it's own quantum laws and limits. Therefore the man of steel is Magic and science combined.
he is definitely not magic at all where did you get this omg hilarious.
His power is tied to the divine willpower wise though(the source), which is why the Omega beams from Darkseid has never killed him outright.
IMO, magic and cosmic forces are the same thing, Superman is a cosmic being himself and thusly has no issues dealing with supernatural power due to him being a lifeform that has defied universal limits before. Maybe magic is cosmic energy that is bound by it's own quantum laws and limits. Therefore the man of steel is Magic and science combined.
he is definitely not magic at all where did you get this omg hilarious.
His power is tied to the divine willpower wise though(the source), which is why the Omega beams from Darkseid has never killed him outright.
his power is from the sun yellow rays.
@theblondegod said:
No, if it were to be removed, what's the sense of him having Supervillains to fight.
Mongul doesn't need kryptonite. Neither do Magog or Parasite, Zod, Faora, Brainiac, the Phantom King, Doomsday, Mxyzptlk, Humanite, or Helspont. Neither did Anguish, H'El, the H.I.V.E. Queen, Psycho Pirate, Satanis, the Invisible Soldier or that Predator-ripoff. And this is just New 52 Superman villains we're talking about. Metallo and Kryptonite Man would be acceptable losses, and Lex has many other ways to be a foil for Superman, other than relying on a green rock. So, as you see, there's still plenty of sense in him having supervillains to fight.
Prefer if DC will completely rework red sunlight weakness and finally will start writing magic as vulnerability, not weakness.
Kryptonite – let them keep it, but 1) make it rare substance on Earth; ) officially set how much it hurts Superman, what' effect it has on him. In Superman’s own books, he’s punching through walls with kryptonite in his brain, while in Batman’s comics…
I wouldn't remove either magic or kryptonite. While kryptonite may have lost it's potency, it is still an important part of his character as his Achilles heel.
Magic... well, I've always seen it not as a something Superman is vulnerable (allergic) to like he is to kryptonite, but as a kind of energy his body isn't fortified against to the same degree he is to mundane forms of energy. Essentially magic is just being fair, it doesnt matter if you are Joe Nobody or Superman, it will affect you regardless unless you carry specific counters to it.
@theblondegod said:
No, if it were to be removed, what's the sense of him having Supervillains to fight.
Mongul doesn't need kryptonite. Neither do Magog or Parasite, Zod, Faora, Brainiac, the Phantom King, Doomsday, Mxyzptlk, Humanite, or Helspont. Neither did Anguish, H'El, the H.I.V.E. Queen, Psycho Pirate, Satanis, the Invisible Soldier or that Predator-ripoff. And this is just New 52 Superman villains we're talking about. Metallo and Kryptonite Man would be acceptable losses, and Lex has many other ways to be a foil for Superman, other than relying on a green rock. So, as you see, there's still plenty of sense in him having supervillains to fight.
Hello, I haven't encountered you on the vine so I'd like to say Welcome to the community. ^^
Still, no. Getting rid of kryptonite would just make him a boring character, imo. ^^
@theblondegod: Thanks for the welcome.
I don't follow your reasoning, though. Currently, Superman's power levels are far from what made kryptonite necessary in the first place. He doesn't sneeze galaxies out of existence anymore, nor does he juggle planets or babysit the rest of the Justice League. Yes, he's still top dog, but there are numberless villains who can hurt or even kill him, and several heroes that can give him a run for his money. In today's comic universe, kryptonite as the deus ex machina Achilles' heel is just plain lazy writing, an overused crutch that seems to have no editorial edict guiding it; how would removing it make Superman boring in any way, shape or form?
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