Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!
This scan raises so many questions. Before I can ask any of them, I must ask, what is actually happening (and did the Atom just steal Batman's headset?)?
Black holes vary in size. Not all black holes are the same.
There's actually a theory that there are billions of black holes every where, they're just so tiny it we can't see them. It has something to do with time space nonsense that I won't pretend to care or understand.
In any case, holding a mini black hole doesn't mean you can do the same to an intersteller black hole that would swallow the sun or a supermassive black hole with enough gravitational force to make galaxies rotate.
A black hole is a great amount of matter packed into a very small area.The gravitational field and pull are so strong that nothing, not even light, can escape.
The black hole that Superman contained in the scan above was only about the size of a grain of sand. It would only have the gravitational pull and mass of a moon, a small planet at best.
I believe he was holding a machine that was holding a mini-black hole the size of a speck of dust. He wasn't lifting it. Actual black holes (as in their event horizon) in space can range anywhere from 6 miles to the size of our solar system.
I believe he was holding a machine that was holding a mini-black hole the size of a speck of dust. He wasn't lifting it. Actual black holes (as in their event horizon) in space can range anywhere from 6 miles to the size of our solar system.
well isn't that the same as holding the black hole itself?
Technically speaking a black hole can be absolutely miniscule in weight.
Black holes aren't especially heavy, the gravity comes from their immense density, not their mass (that being said the largest single objects in the universe by mass are black holes, but supermassives would be too heavy for superman to move even if they weren't a form of degenerate matter). Your average stellar mass black hole is exactly that, stellar mass.
The lightest black hole that won't decay to it's inevitable doom via hawking radiation would be a lunar mass black hole.
But in fact in that comic, he is not holding a black hole, which is physically impossible, but is holding a machine that is able to contain a black hole without damage, in fact he gives static and another gives electromagnetism
@uk2897: A brand new black hole would technically have roughly the same mass as the star it was born from. However, the gravitational force is infinite according to General Theory. There are also theories that black holes formed right after the Big Bang, but we don't know what they came from. That doesn't make sense, but as I understand it, that's all science has figured out thus far.
@spitfirepanda: I dont think that they formed right after the Big Bang.. They form over many many years. I think it is when stars die and go supernova and then bla bla happens and u end up with solar system destroying black hole growing and growing.
@vrakmul:The NGC 1277 has a mass equivalent to 17 billion suns.NGC 4889 has the mass 21 billion suns.
@uk2897: I've been watching science documentaries for fun lately, and what I've learned is that the singularity at the center of a black hole is indescribable by science. They try but they admit that they don't really know since the laws of physics break down there. There's all sorts of theories out there, and I certainly don't understand it more clearly than the people making theories. It's weird but fun to think about. Here's a bit of what I've been watching.
@spitfirepanda: I am very fascinated by Black Holes. They're so devastating.. And I want to see a real picture of one. Scientists have said that one will be "just" 50 million light years away so they will get a chance to photograph it and study it. Imo the best portrayal of Black Holes was in Interstellar. Except for when they went inside it :')
Lifting a black hole. Strange phrase. He doesn't lift a black hole he contains it between his hands and where Superman goes so does the black hole.
Has for that being possible or not. The LHC and CERN experiments have already answered this.
It is possible to create miniature black holes, that are so small that they cease to exist in microseconds. More than enough time for one to touch the outer wall of the equipment and become much more, but for the electromagnetic containment that makes it impossible for that to happen.
Now think of that same containment only on normal scales. First of all, most black holes are no more bigger than the head of a pin, but their gravitational pull equal that of thousands of times the entire mass of our sun, and in the case of the supermassive black hole at the center of our galaxy that's possesses billions of times the mass of our sun. But lets use the normal black holes as the example.
Has long as Superman atomic structure is cohesive/dense enough to not be pull apart from the black hole pull then in theory he could hold a black hole in his hands.
Of course that makes no sense even in comic book logic, because if Superman had such a dense atomic structure then nothing, absolutely nothing should be able to harm him, with the exception of magic, that's by it's very definition breaking the laws of physics. Punching Superman or using any kind of weapon would produce zero effects on him, not even psychics would be able to harm him.
And for a living being to possess such a atomic structure then his body would have to contain some sort of exotic matter, because no element in the periodic table and no combination of them can achieve such density.
To some degree they are. But they also contain many theoretical science in them.
Just think about this, if a neutron star entered our solar system and came for example 4 to 5 time the distance of the moon to the Earth, even at that distance it would start to break apart our planet, until the point it reached to close and the entire planet, all its atoms would lose all cohesion and the Earth and the moon would be desintegrated.
But we also have examples like for example more massive stars in comparison like our own would entirelly be swallow up by a white dwarf, a neutron star an of course a black hole, when each of those cosmic bodies are each smaller than the other. In our sun we could fit more than a million Earths, a white dwarf is aproximately the size of the Earth, neutron stars are only slightly bigger than out moon and a black hole is the size of the head of a pin.
So we have much more massive objects falling victims to smaller objects. Why? Density. The overall density of each those three smaller objects is so great that even something like a star can't fight it.
So if in theory we have something or in this case someone with that has a atomic density greater than any of those three cosmic bodies then in theory it would be possible to survive such devastating forces.
Now if you ask, what are the chances of we creating or discovering a material dense enough to survive those forces. I'd say "Almost zero" but not zero mind you.
For example if we could create something like negative energy, an exotic and theorical type of energy that might/should exist or that's possible to create, then we could destroy white dwarfs, neutron stars, black holes and even our sun, if we were crazy to that point.
That's the point of comics, to make the gray cells in our brains work. To interest people in areas like science, and show them there's still a lot we don't know.
I'm gonna quote you what to me was one of the most deep philosophical quotes I heard in my life. Tommy Lee Jones character said this in the MIB movie "1500 years ago everyone knew the world was flat, 500 years ago everyone knew the Earth was the center of the universe, and 15 minutes ago you knew humans were alone in the universe. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow." Comics reason to exist in my personal opinion is exactly that. To make one admit to what we don't really know and imagine what might be possible, even if that 'might' is beyond what we call science fiction. For now!
Is no one reading the posted scan? He literally said while sweating that it felt like his hands was going to be ripped off. He wasn't holding a black hole, but a machine that contained a minuscule one before the machine fully released it.
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