Can Superman be killed with a magic bullet?

#1 Posted by Agent9149 (2894 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone remember when superman cuts his finger on Wonder Woman's magic sword? If a magic sword can cut superman, then can a magic bullet penetrate superman. And if one can then does that mean a magic bullet to the brain can kill superman.

#2 Posted by SoA (4841 posts) - - Show Bio

yup.

#3 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

It can kill him but he can just move out of the way.Superman isn't weak is magic.He's just susceptible to it.

#4 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes.

#5 Posted by The Stegman (24630 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, if it hits him in a vital organ, or if it's a type of magic that kills no matter where it hits.

#6 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, it'd be able to kill him as it would anyone else. But being faster than a speeding bullet, he shouldn't need to worry about that.

#7 Edited by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

OH man, that's a good question.

@moywar700 said:

It can kill him but he can just move out of the way.Superman isn't weak is magic.He's just susceptible to it.

My feelings too.

I think that the bullet would have to have a mass density then shot at a velocity, both, superior to Superman's durability. Or the Magic would have to dictate these properties. I guess I'm saying that there should be a relative physics ingredient equal or surpassing the amount of violent, destructive power Superman can withstand.

Magic shouldn't be thought of as Kryptonite or equal to Kryptonite. There are varying degrees of skill that it would require to make a weapon of this magnitude and couldn't be engineered by just anyone who can manage an incantation. Someone like Circe would be able to wage war against Superman in this fashion or perhaps the multitudes of Pantheons of GODs that may be roaming around the DCU.

Just saying "IT"S MAGIC AND SUPERMAN"S DEAD" isn't compelling enough of a story. Introducing Theoretical Physics creates a difficult feat for the villain as well.

#8 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

A powerful bullet might penetrate Superman but I heard Superman also heals fast so no problem.

#9 Posted by Z3RO180 (6587 posts) - - Show Bio

@colonyofcells: bullets no matter what callibut can hurt him

#10 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

DOES THE PHRASE 'FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET' MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU PEOPLE?!

#11 Edited by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

Sometimes, Superman is distracted by cute females so he can be shot or cut by some powerful stuff.

#12 Posted by r3d_rob1n (541 posts) - - Show Bio

The argument that he is faster than the bullet is not very effective. In many cases Superman will let the bullets hit him in order to shield innocent bystanders from stray shots. So, if he was unaware that the bullet had been cursed, it is possible that it could kill him. However, I do agree with @Press Oblivion: that it would have to be a powerful sorcerer casting the spell.

#13 Posted by jobbernos (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@Z3RO180: dont bullets bounce off him?

#14 Posted by colonyofcells (2038 posts) - - Show Bio

There are probably limits on how tough are the skin and internal organs of Superman.

#15 Posted by InnerVenom123 (29501 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dracade102 said:

Being faster than a speeding bullet, he shouldn't need to worry about that.

#16 Posted by SoA (4841 posts) - - Show Bio

this but with magic

#17 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

That's my point, you can't equate magic to Kryptonite. Kryptonite is Superman's weakness.

@moywar700: said, he's susceptible. . . . I can't think of an example.

If you apply what I said before about density and velocity, the gun and the bullet would be impossibly heavy and could be lifted and fired by only a few with strength equal to Superman's. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Circe or Gods.

#18 Posted by Z3RO180 (6587 posts) - - Show Bio

@jobbernos: They eaither bounce of him or get crushed once they hit him.

#19 Posted by Kal'smahboi (3532 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on what's magic about it, I suppose.

#20 Posted by serpent222 (319 posts) - - Show Bio

@Press Oblivion said:

That's my point, you can't equate magic to Kryptonite. Kryptonite is Superman's weakness.

@moywar700: said, he's susceptible. . . . I can't think of an example.

If you apply what I said before about density and velocity, the gun and the bullet would be impossibly heavy and could be lifted and fired by only a few with strength equal to Superman's. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Circe or Gods.

For an example, he was made less than useless in the first issue of JLD because of the presence of magic. Basic debris was cutting him, so a magic bullet would easily do some damage.

However, I really do need to apply some non-superpower abilities to the situation. Look at how many times the bat-family have been shot and just kept on going. It's been mentioned that Superman was a candidate for a GL ring, so when you consider his powers combined with his actual will power, then I really don't think the chances of it killing him are very high. Possible, yeah. Likely, no.

#21 Edited by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

@serpent222 said:

@Press Oblivion said:

That's my point, you can't equate magic to Kryptonite. Kryptonite is Superman's weakness.

@moywar700: said, he's susceptible. . . . I can't think of an example.

If you apply what I said before about density and velocity, the gun and the bullet would be impossibly heavy and could be lifted and fired by only a few with strength equal to Superman's. Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Circe or Gods.

For an example, he was made less than useless in the first issue of JLD because of the presence of magic. Basic debris was cutting him, so a magic bullet would easily do some damage.

However, I really do need to apply some non-superpower abilities to the situation. Look at how many times the bat-family have been shot and just kept on going. It's been mentioned that Superman was a candidate for a GL ring, so when you consider his powers combined with his actual will power, then I really don't think the chances of it killing him are very high. Possible, yeah. Likely, no.

Awesome thank you! Perfect example. I think that it should also be noted that the Witch was a very high level, mystical threat.

#22 Posted by Dernman (15159 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on the magic.

#23 Posted by termiteone4ever (7549 posts) - - Show Bio

It could kill him but he stands a high chance of surviving it . Superman durability and will and power is no joke. I recall him surviving a kryptonite bullet that exploded in his brain YES Brain :) Unless this bullet instantly take his soul he might just survive

#24 Posted by TerrellV13 (74 posts) - - Show Bio

It's been shown time and again that Superman is affected by magic just like the rest of us. God forbid he fights Zatanna.

#25 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

@TerrellV13 said:

It's been shown time and again that Superman is affected by magic just like the rest of us. God forbid he fights Zatanna.

Yes, I would hope that she would survive the encounter.

#26 Posted by asIsuspected (543 posts) - - Show Bio

Badly injured - yes, killed - dont think so

#27 Posted by SUNMAN (7239 posts) - - Show Bio

No, Superman can only die if the writers let him, which is why he is immortal

#28 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

@SUNMAN said:

No, Superman can only die if the writers let him, which is why he is immortal

true dat

#29 Posted by Durakken (1593 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on your interpretation of his his strength and such works. I'm of the mind that his strength is derived from the higher gravity of Krypton vs Earth difference and not from solar energy which slightly changes the answer.

The way Superman's magic vulnerability works is that he is not "weak" to it, but rather he would react to it as though he weren't invulnerable. So a magic bullet would have the same effect on superman as a regular bullet would have on a regular person... unless you think that his strength is derived from the gravity difference in which case Superman is denser that normal people and while he could still die from a magic bullet it would take more power to do it than an ordinary bullet from an ordinary handgun.

#30 Posted by PowerHerc (84331 posts) - - Show Bio

I suppose it's possible.

#31 Posted by Skewer (325 posts) - - Show Bio

The magic bullet, is it the one that Kennedy was rumoured to be killed with?

#32 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20308 posts) - - Show Bio

If the bullet somehow hits him and into a vital organ than yes. It worked with Kryptonite.

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#33 Posted by Jimishim12 (430 posts) - - Show Bio

A magic steel bullet will just injure him, no more than bruise him likely. His body is dense (at a subatomic level). His bio aura will be breached but that's it. It's not like it's gonna kill him like normal humans, Superman has a natural regenerative factor plus his body survives cosmic ethereal energies when he goes out inspace to fight aliens or stop new gods, a fucking bullet is nothing unless is a powerful freaking magical gun.

#34 Posted by ZeroPlus (2285 posts) - - Show Bio

Perhaps.

And Superman didn't cut his finger because Wonder Woman's sword is magical, but because it can cleave atoms.

#35 Posted by Outside_85 (9171 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd argue the bullet would have to be enchanted to penetrate Superman's skin rather than 'just being magic'. Similar to how:

  • Diana's sword is enchanted to be beyond razor sharp, to slice electrons off atoms. It's ok Superman gets cut by that.
  • Captain Marvel is fueled by magic to be as strong as Superman, but his fists don't go though Superman's head even if he hits him extremely hard.
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#36 Edited by UltimateSMfan (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

He's been shot at with a magic bullet but he simply caught it ;) So he can just do that...See last year's Valentine's day special.

#37 Edited by SanoHibiki (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can avoid/catch it in the first place; if bullet still hit him – he still has some really impressive healing feats, so that might be not enough to kill him. Maybe if bullet goes directly through his brain…

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