I mean, come on, it's Superman's movie and no one thinks he stands a chance of winning. =\

Doesn't that tell you something of the nature of these two's interaction?

@black_arrow

It all makes sense now :)

I laughed harder than I should've.

Now you're complaining about a letter? B comes before S, its in alphabetical order, it doesnt hint to anything in relation to batman being prioritized

What Zach said today about the "v" in Batman v Superman:

"I have a legal background. The whole “v” thing, that is an adversarial thing in courts. When you go to court and you’re reading old court cases it’s “Smith v California”. The first name in the title of a court case is the grieving party. It’s the one bringing the grievance. The one saying the first party has a problem with the second party. And that’s the legal way that that’s set up. So when I look at that title, it makes sense that they left the “s” out of the “v” [in "vs."]. Now it makes sense to me. Batman is the one coming after Superman in this film. I have no doubt about that. In Man of Steel Superman nearly destroyed his entire city, which left thousands of people dead. Batman is probably going to have a big problem with that, and it’ll likely be the key factor in their feud in the new movie. The title Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice makes a lot of sense to me when you break it down in legal terms like that."

Source

@erik: This is interesting.

@erik: Yeah, but the bad guy is usually the one who is the respondent. The state, the oppressor, the assaulter.

If I hit you and you can't hear out your ear and you want to sue me, our court case is called Erik v. Superguy. If the government is restricting your rights, it's Erik v. United States. So...yeah.

Not necessarily the bad guy. He is the defendant. Innocent until proven guilty, brah!

@vinovash1234

Can you confirm it's alphabetical order, I think you and many others are misunderstanding what I'm saying..\

@erik

Bat's is going to sue Superman for damages, the rest of the JLA will be the jury.

@supercow: LOL!

Zod smashed Batman's satellite. Shots were fired before Supes ever knew it lol

@reactor said:

@superguy1591 said:

@bezza: Say whatever you want about me being anti-Batman, but Batman vs. Superman fights are done purely for Batman fans.

Whether Batman wins or loses, Batman still wins. If Batman wins, he just took down a god. He's a badass. When Superman wins, Batman just survived a fight with Superman. That's impressive, he's not supposed to survive a fight like that much less hold his own.

Superman, on the other hand, doesn't get such benefits. Superman gets the fighting a girl rule. Whenever he wins, he's supposed to win and he looks bad if he enjoys it. Whenever he loses, he just lost to a girl (Batman) and he's embarrassed.

I think the only time Superman fans were happy to see Superman fight Batman was in the N52 JL issue, and Superman fans didn't even get to enjoy it because everyone called him a jerk.

Superman fans aren't excited fir this fight, win or lose. The only reason we're bummed about it is because we know that when Batman wins, Superman will be humiliated and that we'll have to put up with the general population talking about "how Superman is a p*$$y and how awesome Batman is".

Batman fans don't like the fights either, a win is a win and a loss is a loss and Batman loses 90% of the time and even when he wins it is called PIS by Superman fans. And I doubt Batman will win in BvS, there's more chance of Superman winning.

It's not Superman's movie.

It never was!

To be fair, it stopped being "Man of Steel 2" a looooooong time ago.

This is not a Superman movie sequel. This is a Justice League movie prequel.

@superguy1591:

Hey dude, I wouldn't call you anti Batman, in fact it wouldn't bother me if you were, everyone's entitled to like who they want!

Yep, I think Superman cant really win when it comes to Batman and in some ways although the TDKR is a legendary comic and I really like it personally, it did a lot of fuel arguments between Batman and Superman fans and resentment particularly in the latter.

its a shame really that the biggest discussion about this film is Batman fighting Superman and yes I know the title is Batman v Superman. They are both friends, one is a god, the other an ant by comparison, so them fighting is preposterous when you think about it. Its still interesting to see how a non super human guy tackles someone who is almost invulnerable, but I would like to see more emphasis on their friendship. They are very different characters, but complement each other so well.

@rustyroy:

Its a fair point, I think neither Batman or Superman comes out of the fight with much positive, as you say PIS if Bats wins, if Supes win its "well he should do shouldn't he"....

He gets top billing in DC...Marvel...Pop culutre......existence... for like the past 20 years

Don't act surprised anymore hehe

@supercow: B comes before S, so its alphabetical.....theres a youtube channel called AMC theatres, and they discussed the implications of the title, and trust me some of the theories are amazing, go check em out.

@darling_luna:

Batman's also running for president after Obama quits and entering the Eurovision song contest next year (that last comment is probably lost on most people on here...)

Actually, shouldn't they rename it "Batman (and his friend)...and just be done with it-lol!!

@erik: While I understand the argument, I truly hope that this is not the only basis for the Supes vs Bats argument. It like me doing a job to the best of my abilities and a co-worker comes and say I did it wrong. I would respond by saying, "Oh, yeah. Where were you when I was moving my lawn? I been out here for an hour while you sat back and watched."

The invasion in MOS was not a one hour thing and I am pretty sure Gotham would have saw something on the news about it. So, how can Batman complain about one cities destruction when Supes action saved the entire world, Gotham included. Neither hero has a moral ground to call out the other, each breaking the law to stop villains, and both allowing villains to return and wreck havoc in their cities.

Yet, I can almost see a movie where Batman talks down to Superman as if he was a child and Superman sitting there and taking it.

Third Superman movie will be Aquaman vs Superman :P

It didn't surprise me, and it does annoy me, but at this stage I've given up anyway.

I think it's just because Batman v Superman sounds better. Phonetically it just has a better ring to it then the other way around.

This isn't even Superman's movie anymore.

@thebhramabull: Top dog? Now you're just sounding like an ignorant Batman fanboy. But we all know who's the most iconic superhero of all time that even kids in Africa knows of: Superman. That's a fact. Now that we're even, let's look at a possibility that could've happened. You see, Batman Begins only made about $300+ at the box office after 9 years of absence without any full length feature film. Man of Steel had a 10 years of absence, and yet it made over $600 at the box office. Heck, even Superman Returns made more than Batman Begins. Now think of it this way: if Superman were to have to more standalone movies and made into a trilgoy, then I assure you that the total box grossing would be way more than that of the Dark Knight trilogy. Case in point: Superman is more well known and iconic than Batman, despite the popularity of Batman being more these days with the new generation thanks to the DK trilogy. Goodbye. Yes, I'm a hypocrite for being a fanboy, too.

@superguy1591: Are you in denial? First off, Frank Miller's atrocious comic is non-canon. Yes, non-canon does exist and it's real, deal with it. Second, Batman has never beaten Superman, and that's a fact. Let's be more honest with ourselves shall we? I know you all want to hate on Superman for being powerful, and the most iconic superhero of all time, but facts are facts: Batman has never defeated Superman. NEVER! You're in denial, I understand, you want to see a weak-sauce of an underdog to beat the champ, but that's not happening. There's a reason why the Dark Knight Returns is officianly a non-canon comic, and not considered canon by DC.

Superman is DC's number 1, and Batman is DC's number 2. Despite the popularity of Batman these days because of the trilogy and the Arkham games -- Superman is still more well known, and iconic and the epitome of all superhero who actually started this whole trend in the first place. Facts is fact, bro, and Batman can't do squat to the Man of Steel, heck, Batman even admitted to that.

@azyral_stark:

Man of Steel: Produced by Chris Nolan, the maker of The Dark Knight Trilogy, WB made sure everyone knew that.

People were excited for the film off the back of the success of the Batman trilogy. The marketing for Batman Begins was minimal compared to that of Man of Steel and was also rebooting after the travesty that was Batman and Robin.

No MoS sequel would have made a billion, you are insane to think so. It will now that Batman has been brought in. Because he's the top dog. Yes you are butt hurt. He has better films, animated series, video games but the main reason he is top dog is because he makes more money. He is their number 1 seller. I haven't said anything about the characters, I could hate them both for all you know. Doesn't change the fact Batman is the top dog at DC, he brings in he most money in.