Just read it. As I feared the titles will crossover a good amount.

But anyway. It was okay. Better than I expected. But the loss of powers and characterization make Clark sound like generic good guy and that unfortunately can't be fixed.

There were some good things like light tone instead of what the previews let us think. Jimmy and Clark's neighborhood scene but overall, it cutted too short.

I have only read the preview posted on CBR, and it actually made me want to know what happens next. I'm still going to wait and see what the general reception is and most likely wait for the trades.

I think TRUTH makes me feel about Superman exactly how @jonny_anonymous feels about Waid's Daredevil.

In the middle of the story there is a reference to JULY'S (!) issue of Superman. Yeah...wait for the trade.

Read it was pretty good

Let's just hope that it all ends up telling a good story when "Truth" is over.

@squalleon: Yeah I could see that

Interesting

@squalleon: how is that?

@saintwildcard: oh, hey, @claymore1998. Haven't seen you in a while

What do you mean exactly?

Art was great, story was solid. I'd say this is a good start to the arc, really looking forward to next issues of this and Superman even more.

@squalleon: You said it's like Waid's Daredevil.

Well that's a realisation I should have made sooner. Now I really know how Jonny feels about Waid's Daredevil run.

booyah! lol

While Waid's Daredevil isn't a bad book, on the contrary it is quite good. It takes away some of the elements that make the character unique. The dark, noir-crime tone. Matt's personality goes a 180 degrees turn. So "Truth" is like that. It probably won't be bad but it just isn't Superman.

@squalleon: I see.

Loved it! loved his reaction and mannerism to meeting Jimmy!

Perhaps but the other irony/disagreement we have my friend is that we both like what the other hates. I would be tempted to read Waid's Daredevil if Waid weren't being such a stuck up jerk these days and you've told me you're interested in Truth as a premise. That's the flipside to our mutual understanding.

This is true but I also hear that Yuen is a great indy writer

@jonny_anonymous: Being good at indies doesn't translate to being good at mainstream superheroes unfortunately. I was initially excited for Yang writing Superman but when the details of Truth started popping up, I lost my enthusiasm.

@lvenger: Have you read Superman today yet? I'm about to.

@jonny_anonymous: Isn't it Action Comics out today? And no I haven't just seen the spoilers online. Not very fond of giving money to comics I don't want to read, I did that with Grounded and that was a huge mistake IMO.

Sorry yeah Action Comics. Did you see actual spoilers or just that free preview story they put out? One issue isn't going to break the bank, even I got the first three or 4 issue of Waid's DD.

@jonny_anonymous: No it's not but I don't want to add to the sales figures of something I don't like. I rarely just refuse to buy certain comics, let alone Superman, but everything about Truth is almost tailor made to be written as if it's a 'Superman' story I would hate reading.

I haven't read it yet because I'm waiting for the TPB so this may seem a stupid question but has Superman completely lost his abilities? I was under the impression he had a slight amount of strength or is that wrong?

@lvenger: Yeah but you should at least try something before you completely condemn it

Why? Sure he doesn't look much like the hero we know but at the end of the day Superman is still behaving as Superman

Almost. He can barely leap medium sized buildings :P His best strength feat was lifting four 6 year olds in his arms :P

Yeah, definitely trade wait. This issue referenced JULY's Superman issue.

Yeah. That was the main criticism I have about the book. Clark sounding very generic. Without his powers and identity, he comes of as generic good guy. That's why I don't like depowered Superman. The powers are part of his core. And affect his personality and inner voice. Without them he is very bland.

I really don't have to, everything about Truth that's been revealed is literally everything I don't want to read in a Superman comic. I gave Pak's initial run a try, I even gave Lobdell's run a go but Truth is already shaping up to be the story I never wanted to read from the 8 page previews alone. There really isn't anything or any reason I would want to try Truth in the first place.

I dunno,he didn't seem bland at all to me,still, of course i prefer a fully powered Superman....who doesn't? However i am going to follow this story arc and i have to say that i liked this issue more than what i was expecting.

He's about as strong as Ultimate Captain America. It was commented that he was commented by someone in the issue that he's still a little stronger than the was expected. He does use his ripped up cape to pack more punch though. Do you remember the child who stole Superman's cape from the issue #0 by Morrison? Think that basically.

As for waiting for TPB? That's up to you at the end of the day, but I will say that the references to other issue don't stunt your understanding of the story one bit. There is more than enough exposition to get you through. The mention of Superman #42 is rather superficial. Superman doesn't give any new information on the threat that we already didn't know. He even goes out of his way to mention that the threat was just as present in the free preview. You could have just read that and been up to speed.

All we know is that everything pops off at Superman #41. But even then you are given the gist of it without going into the separate story angle that is being worked there.

@lvenger: waid, stuck up jerk? There was the whole him critiquing Orson Scott Card, which to me reeked of jealousy, but what else?

@superlad93: It's actually a force of habit. I generally don't buy issues unless I'm desperate and even then I buy digital only miniseries. Everything else I wait for TPB's. It's a grind what with the inconsistent release schedule but I personally prefer the hardback trades.

Ah, I can already tell the new 52 capability thread is going to be quiet for a few months. Unless we scale it down. Yay /s

So what about the confusing timeline of Truth? If it really did reference an issue which is coming out next month to gain a better understanding of certain scenes, doesn't that contradict the "This isn't a traditional crossover" false advertising?

Ah I see. Well then in some ways I envy you! You're gonna get to experience the whole thing at once and really judge for yourself. As with everything in this world, I hope you enjoy your time reading this book when you can!

@lvenger: The references are small and don't need much thought. Take the reference to issue #41 of Superman for instance, he talks about how his identity got blown there. We needed to establish why he was in this state we see him in, but we didn't get any info that was unreasonable or that broke the story if we didn't read the other book. Clark doesn't bring up the fact that Lois is the one who outed him or any real details. All of that stuff is for Yang to deal with. What we need was the starting point for the situation in Truth aka Clark being outed.

Same can be said about the reference to issue 42 of Superman. In fact we learn nothing that we didn't learn in the free preview for Action comics. It just says that issue 42 is where he first sees the threat.

Action Comics seems to have it's own agenda to tell. I expect that is true for all the other books too

@superlad93: It's strange, I'm actually envious of you guys who collect issues. One because of the sweet collections you all get but really because you get to experience the story as it happens. Many would say that I'm only a casual fan because I collect TPB's but I like to think that I'm pretty hardcore when I want to be lol.

@soldierofel: I think it's a grass is always greener sort of thing lol.

A solid start to what is to be an interesting arc in Clark's life. Not as great as the Superman's Joker arc, but it's by no means boring. Pak continues to write Clark's vibe the way I like him. No stick in sight. 7.5/10

Also, thank base Kuder. His Jimmy design is 10 times better than JrJr's 90's kid. Looks kinda like a hipster in the summer but whatever, I think he's just like that cus it's a celebration. Couldn't gather much on how Pak writes him compared to Johns, but he didn't annoy me like he did in Johns run so that's a plus.

Edit- Here's Hipster Jimmy

I don't think you will hate this as much as you think you will

@fuzzylittlerodent: hey there sorry been a bit busy with exams. Nearly done. You will see me around more often from next week.

Yeah. The crossover was pretty much given.

Overall it was okay. Did find it strange how at one point he's saying that he no longer could jump tall buildings and at the end of the comic he was jumping pretty high. Sure, not has high has he would if is powers were at their maximum, but still pretty high. It reminded me of Golden Age Superman.

The very end of the comic did left me, fearing the worst, for the people that was there to welcome him back to Metropolis. Seems someone is taking xenophobia to extremes.

But still I found it more credible than the Justice League comic. Did you noticed the mistakes and how DC is already bringing up problems where there shouldn't be any. Like Wonder Wonder thoughts about Steve Trevor.

@heavenlydarkdragon: No, Lobdell, Snyder, Geoff(Superman), and Pak (in Doomed) have all had Superman go MUCH further than that.

If they don't want them together I don't know why they're keeping them together. Anyway, the jumping thing was Pak's way of saying his powers are coming back and that it's not permanent. He even gives us an exposition are line of "he's stronger than we thought" to imply that he's more powerful that he was the last time they saw him.

Just has long has they at least come up with a credible explanation for why his powers started fading in the first place.

And no. I don't want lame excuses like, in post-52/pre-flashpoint when Superman was also left depowered and the reason why, was because he subconsciously blocked his powers. Or that it was because of the Flare power, because that would be ridiculous. "Lets introduce this new power and make a big deal out of it, just so later we're forced to remove it".

If any of these hypothesis are even being considered by DC, it will be maybe one of the biggest WTF ever.

@heavenlydarkdragon: the flare damaged his cells and made storing energy harder. I think it had a lot to do with the amount of times he used the power in Superman 40 (he used it 4 times in a short period) when he was testing it out so Vic can help him understand it. My guess is that his cells are slowly rebuilding themselves in this arc though.

As far as the Flare power: Romita jr's one shot did hint at Superman wanting to master that power, so I doubt they'll retconn it for good. I think he'll just learn how to use it with a lesser impact on his body.

@superguy1591:

Better that than the alternative. The alternative being, he simply couldn't get a grip on that power and has such he would've to train so he never again used that power.

Also if it's the Flare power, at least I hope DC comes out and says something along the lines of "His body went through the depower period because his cells were evolving, growing stronger, so not only can Superman now use the Flare without getting depowered but also he's now able to fully control the energy output, and also use it in other ways". If it goes along these lines than I'm okay with it.

Although why make it seem like both Kal and Kara were both loosing their powers, will need a much better explanation.

Just my opinion.

@heavenlydarkdragon: I could be wrong, but it was heavily implied that his flare power was cause. Everything I'm saying is from the Romita jr one shot, so I don't know if Pak, GLY and Tomasi are going to keep it, but after he used his power last and got drunk by accident in 40, he could barely fly and he wasn't as durable as he usually is. After 24 hours, Clark was supposed to be back to normal though.

It might be a different thing, but, as of now, I'm certain it's the flare.