Apparently now he can bench the Earth for five days, and wasn't even tired, and it's still not the upper limits of his power

Wow...

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@Mattersuit said:

@Hendersonfiles: Hardly not tired. Those pauses in his speech could be him panting, as often happens when one is pushing themself too hard.

Him saying "That's...all...you have?" could be arrogance, as many heroes are wont to do.

Good point, still he benched it and he benched it for five days. I think 52 Supes has pretty much surpassed pre 52

Wrong section. But this is mighty impressive. Proof of stamina, and strength, partially durability? 6 sextillion metric tons, how many bones in the DCnU won't fail under that much pressure?

It's an impressive feat BUT it's only one feat.

I like it. Sure, more is always better, but I like this as a start. If Superman is supposed to be the best, it's great that his strength is being clearly and unambiguously shown. I mean...from a preview.

I can't help but say this makes Helspont just look more impressive though lol.

@xeon1cs said:

Strength-wise, this should put New 52 above Pre-Flashpoint Superman. He still has bad durability, and average speed feats.

Him rapidly educating himself so he could do surgery was an average speed feat? And where does bad durability come from? I don't read all the Superman comics so I may have missed something, but while I haven't seen anything spectacular, I also haven't seen anything "bad" on a durability front.

Come on its for 5 days that's well more impressive then just moving war world

Him rapidly educating himself so he could do surgery was an average speed feat? And where does bad durability come from? I don't read all the Superman comics so I may have missed something, but while I haven't seen anything spectacular, I also haven't seen anything "bad" on a durability front.

@The_jackolantern said:

Come on its for 5 days that's well more impressive then just moving war world

he moved war world,when it was generating enough thrust to move itself at if not lightspeed a very high velocity and in the opposing direction. that was definitely more impressive,plus he was sundipped.....imagine this superman sundipped *shivers*

@Dernman said:

@Buckshot said:

Him rapidly educating himself so he could do surgery was an average speed feat? And where does bad durability come from? I don't read all the Superman comics so I may have missed something, but while I haven't seen anything spectacular, I also haven't seen anything "bad" on a durability front.

The first one that came off the top of my head is when Batman was hoped up on a Venom,.Joker mix and hit Superman making him bleed in Batman the Dark Knight. I forget which issue.

that was either complete PIS or WIS or batman was just imagining the whole thing.

that was either complete PIS or WIS or batman was just imagining the whole thing.

@80sBaby said:

It's an impressive feat BUT it's only one feat.

Quality beats quantity

Would i say this puts him above pre FP supes? idk pre flash point supes had some rather insane strengths like moving the meggadon gears, lifting the book of limbo(infinite weight), slowing the specters fall with wonder woman(weight of eternity i believe), pushing war world although he was sun dipped for fifteen minutes, destroying earth two as a side effect of the strength of his blows. This feat is right out impressive but i dont think he trumps his old self just yet wen it comes in strength although i can see him doing that very shortly as for speed and invulnerability the only speed feat that even competes is him reading every medical text ever published and learning to perform near perfect surgery in FIVE minutes which is IMO his best feat so far but still not as fast as pre FP supes who could have conversations with the flash while the world basically stood still. As for new 52 sups invulnerability its actually far below pre FP supes i mean pre FP has survived planetary explosions, explosions with the power of one million nuclear blasts, planetary collisions, even being hit with a SUPERNOVA 0_o . New 52 supes has been knocked out one too many times to even compete with his former self in this category

at least New 52 superman was stronger than Pre-52 superman pre52 superman just can move 1/3 of the earth,new 52 superman can easily lift earth weight

Most importantly how does this translate into a battle showing in canon

because it would suck that he can do this but cannot beat up a grundy/doomsday/bizarro type character

not really,either make the bad guys stronger themselves in the nudcu,or have them trade punches with superman because he is holding back,which is his greatest power,but also his greatest weakness.

one feat so what?what wrong with you? SA superman just once move many planets with together,just once sneeze out solar system,he never again do once,so what? i belive New 52 superman this feat,he was stronger than Pre52 superman,because pre 52 superman just can't lift earth weight

This is his only feat that shows that he is now stronger.If we see some more feats like this one than we can consider this right.

@Teerack said:

Making superman stronger is the opposite of making him more interesting.

Not really, but inconsistent showings do

If he can life earth then keep him that strong

one feat enough prove it but if has more feats was better just it you can't see"just because one feat so we are Ignore it!" wrong

@Teerack:

Superman is already so strong there almost never feels like any sense of threat in any story other then when someone else might get hurt. You can't have a compelling story if the reader doesn't feel any real sense of danger.

doomsday, amazo, zod, mongul and non jobber darkseid (writers fault on that part). He is not the strongest though, but the writers have to get creative with the villains and make them stay that way in crossovers.

@Teerack said:

@Rumble Man: Yeah but he doesn't fight those people 100% of the time, and I'm not saying he's the strongest. With his current level of strength making him stronger only makes him less interesting.

His strength also boosts those that have pimpsmacked him all around (helspont)

@Rumble Man said:

@Teerack:

Superman is already so strong there almost never feels like any sense of threat in any story other then when someone else might get hurt. You can't have a compelling story if the reader doesn't feel any real sense of danger.

doomsday, amazo, zod, mongul and non jobber darkseid (writers fault on that part). He is not the strongest though, but the writers have to get creative with the villains and make them stay that way in crossovers.

This!!! I personaly would like to see him in more earth unbound storys.

@Teerack said:

With his current level of strength making him stronger only makes him less interesting.

Nope! Wrong writers makes him less interesting. The power lever shows only his ranking and the ranking of his Villian Gallery thats belongs to him.

@JSH92: As an employee you have some days of vacation a year and the hero job got cancelled by an plot device.

@Eternal19: But then it also forces the writers to have to actually find more interesting and challenging was to test Superman that my even make his powers moot. Just look at Action comics 13 where Superman is trapped in a zone where nothing he physically does matters or has any impact at all. If you look back at the story I wager that you couldn't tell how powerful Superman actually was because I know I couldn't......and I love that. He could have been as strong as he was in Action comics 1 or he could have been as strong as we see him in the preview of Superman 13 but no matter what in the end it didn't matter because it came down to the only thing that matters about Superman: his will and his never say die attitude.

So no I have to disagree with Teerack when he says that making stronger makes him less interesting. I feel it doesn't matter so long as you have the imagination and understanding to know that, that's not the only thing he's about.

Quality beats quantity

@Teerack: Because some of them like John Byrne for example went an easy way in the past and depower Supes to the ground to have an easy time to create exiting storys for him "because a missile could hurt him" or something like that..Acting like this has nothing to do with be ceraitive in my opinion. If you wanna/like read some streetlevler storys youre wrong with a Superman book I think.