Superior 80's Nostalgia?

Topic started by Jekylhyde14 on Jan. 23, 2011. Last post by Jekylhyde14 1 year, 3 months ago.
Post by Jekylhyde14 (392 posts) See mini bio Level 29

I honestly had high hopes for Mark Millar and Leinil Yu’s Superior. I know Mark is an avid Superman fan. He had a great run on the Superman Adventures in the late 90’s, he wrote one of the best Modern Age Superman tales in Superman: Red Son, he was part of the brilliant Superman 2000 pitch with Grant Morrison, and he even has his own Superman movie trilogy developed just in case he’s asked to do it one day. Plus Leinil Yu is one of the industry’s top artists and was my favorite New Avengers artist. I figured I was in for one of the best non-Superman Superman stories ever written. However, so far I’ve been a bit let down. We are four issues into Superior and I can’t help but feel the pace is a bit slow. I’m also often experiencing sensations of déjà vu as I read the pages of Superior. In fact, it sort of makes me feel like I’m back in the 80’s.

        The satellite catch from Superior #3 was my first big time warp moment. For those who haven’t read the issue, Superior’s big reveal to the world comes in issue #3 when he stops a falling Space Station from crashing into New York City. I didn’t think much of it at the time past the fact that it was a cool thing for Yu to draw. Not long after reading that, however, I was flipping through an old copy of Mark Gruenwald and Bob Hall’s Squadron Supreme #1 from September of 1985 and in the first few pages was treated to a scene of Hyperion (another Superman clone) struggling against a falling satellite. I was dumbstruck with how similar the scenes were. In both comics we have two caped strongmen pushing in vain against burning space stations plummeting towards Earth. 

 Superior's Satellite Catch
 Superior's Satellite Catch

 Hyperion's Satellite Catch
 Hyperion's Satellite Catch
 

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  I started to wonder how many other times the satellite problem has popped up for Superman or one of his many clones. The first time I could find it happening for Superman was in Adventure Comics #247 during the first appearance of the Legion of Superheroes. Superboy gets diverted from his contest with Cosmic Boy because of an Earth-satellite that’s just about to crash. Superboy catches the blazing satellite and tosses it into a volcano crater. I also remembered that he caught a Satellite as Superman in Grant Morrison and Howard Porter’s JLA #34 in a scene much like the Superior/Hyperion catches. The most notable moment, however, was Superman’s satellite catch in the opening scene of 1987’s Superman IV: The Quest for Peace. Superman rights a spiraling cosmonaut space station and catches a wayward cosmonaut who had been left floating in space because of it. This satellite catch may be the key to understanding why Millar used the scenario as his Superior reveal. Mark Millar is known to have loved the Richard Donner Superman films to the point where he bought Christopher Reeve’s cape. Though Superman IV wasn’t directed by Donner, it was part of the film series and I wouldn’t be surprised if it stuck with Millar enough to subconsciously turn into a scene for Superior.

        Also, interestingly enough, I discovered a few more Superior coincidences during my satellite search. Take the powers test from Superior #2 for instance. After revealing his Superior identity to his best friend Chris, Simon and Chris go out into the woods to test Simon’s Superior powers. Chris has a stack of comic books with him for research and watches as Simon tests his super powers on the surrounding environment. Where have I seen this before? I asked myself. The answer was Alan Moore’s Miracleman Chapter 7 (printed in 1982’s Warrior #7 and 1985’s Miracleman #2). In this scene, Superman-clone Miracleman goes out into an abandoned field with his wife, Liz, to test out his superpowers on the surrounding environment. Liz carries a stack of comic books with her for research. Both scenes carry a similar feel to them as both heroes try to discover their limits for the first time. 


 Superior Comic Test
 Superior Comic Test

  

  


 Miracleman Comic Test
 Miracleman Comic Test

  

         Then there’s the near-death feint that Madeline Knox just recently pulled on Superior in issue #4. Desperate to grab an exclusive interview with Superior before anyone beats her to the punch, Maddie drives off a pier and into the river hoping Superior would save her. He does pull her from the water and she ambushes him with a camera crew and does a live-television interview. This is the exact same thing that happens in John Byrne’s 1986 Superman: The Man of Steel #2. Finding it impossible to track Superman down for an interview, Lois Lane drives her car off a pier hoping that Superman would save her. Superman pulls her from the river and flies her back home where she starts her interview (though Clark Kent beats HER to the punch by writing a story about himself). I’m sure John Byrne nearly $#!* himself with rage at the scene in Superior #4 because it’s THE EXACT SAME SCENE as in Man of Steel #2. 

 

 

  

         Why am I telling you all of this? Is it because I’m trying to tear Mark Millar down and out him as being unoriginal? No. Honestly, I never expected a series starring a Superman clone to be all that original in the first place. I also genuinely like Mark Millar. He’s perhaps one of the best comic writers still working and he always produces something that’s fun. I also really enjoyed Squadron Supreme and Miracleman back when these types of stories were still a novel idea. What I’m really trying to point out with all of this is that superhero deconstruction can only take us so far and to so many places. Part of what Mark Millar is trying to do with Superior is take the Superman mythos into a modern world that looks and feels a lot like our own. Millar is asking himself, if there was a guy like Superman then how would he interact with the world and how would the world respond to him? These are the answers he came up with and some of them happen to be the exact same answers that Mark Gruenwald, Alan Moore, and John Byrne came up with for their Superman deconstruction stories. Why do we have Superman figures catch so many satellites? Because it’s a realistic problem we could use a guy like Superman for. Why do we have modern Supermen test their powers in front of loved ones reading comics? Because that’s what we would probably do and because we’re aware that if a real superhero appeared then all we’d have to compare him to would be comics. Why do we have female reporters driving off piers for attention? Because we’re very cynical of the media these days and think they’d do about anything for a story (and they probably would).

I don’t think Mark Millar is necessarily ripping people off so much as he’s thinking about what his characters would realistically do in these situations in the real world and he’s either consciously or subconsciously taking himself back to 1980’s superhero deconstruction as a result. That’s, honestly, what disappoints me about Superior. In a lot of ways, it does feel like the same kind of Superman story we’ve been reading since the beginning of the modern age and that’s because it’s the exact same approach writers have taken to comics since then. The preoccupation of trying to make these stories more realistic delivers the same stories to us time and time again because our own world only changes so much. I was hopeful that Millar would be able to ignore this impulse and take a trip into the imaginative and the fantastic much like he did in his Superman Adventures run. Instead, we get another synopsis of what things would be like if Superman lived in the real world. Personally, what I want to see is Superman back in his own world: The world where anything and everything can happen so we’re not just watching him and his clones catch satellites over and over again. It disappoints me that Superior was not this project. 

Post by Silkcuts (2,829 posts) See mini bio Level 29
DUDER GREAT BLOG!
 
I haven't been reading Superior, but I'll wait fro trade now because of you ^_^
Cheers mate.
Post by Jekylhyde14 (392 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Silkcuts:  
 
Thanks a lot! I'm glad I helped get you interested. Superior has been an interesting read if a bit slow paced. I'm hoping Millar comes up with one of those crazy grand finales he's known for. 
Post by Silkcuts (2,829 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Jekylhyde14:  Millar can be a good writer when he wants to.  Because its a slow read I am glad I am not spending monthly on this.  So you saved me money and you got me interested ^_^
 
I am shocked I was the only one to comment.  I liked the photo choices a lot.
Post by Jekylhyde14 (392 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Silkcuts:  
 
Yeah, I usually enjoy Millar's work quite a bit. The Ultimates, Civil War, and Old Man Logan comprise some of the best work Marvel's put out in the last decade. In any event, his work is always a good conversation piece.  
 
Thank you for being the first to comment on this blog. I feel like I must be bad at drawing attention to my work on comicvine, so it's nice to be noticed. I did, however, get Bleeding Cool interested in this topic:  http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/01/24/swipe-file-man-of-steel-vs-superior/ 
 
I just had fun going through my comic collection so I could compare and contrast. That last photo set with the cars is so similar it is pretty eerie...
Post by Silkcuts (2,829 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Jekylhyde14:  It it hard sometimes to get exposure on this site.  No one reads my blog it seems as well...lol
well minus Aztek when I bring him bad news on Vertigo.
 
It was a great read and congrats on booking it.  Heck you got Bleeding Cool attention, I am pretty sure I have not done anything like that.  Did you contact them? How did that happen?
Post by Jekylhyde14 (392 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Silkcuts:  
 
It was pretty simple to get it on Bleeding Cool. They run a series called "Swipe File" where they compare two comic images or scenes that are similar to each other or to something else (sometimes it's advertisements, movie posters, real life, etc.). I knew about Swipe File and thought my blog post was pretty similar to it, so after I posted my blog up here I sent the link to Bleeding Cool with an explanation. Rich Johnston got back to me about it right away and posted it on Bleeding Cool the next day. He seems to always be on the look out for comic stories like that, so if you ever stumble across anything you think he'd be interested in then just let him know. Bleeding Cool is probably my favorite Comic News site because it's exhaustive and fearless in its approach to comic news and rumors (much to the chagrin of many comic creators and companies).  
 
Anyway, thanks again for backing my blog post. I'll be on the look out for any updates on your blog, as well. I love Vertigo and I hate to see how DC has allowed it to decay over the years. 
Post by Nova`Prime` (3,386 posts) See mini bio Level 21
Excellent blog and I think that's what Millar is looking for out of this character, I think he's trying to make people remember reading this things before in comics because after all, its a comic book character, based off a comic book/movie character in the comic book. I am thoroughly enjoying this title and to be honest I am no longer seeing Superior as just another Superman clone but as a very interesting and exciting hero in his own right. I haven't read the lastest issue, it should be arriving by the end of the week, but at the end of issue 3, I half expect the evil monkey to do this...

Post by Silkcuts (2,829 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Jekylhyde14:  No worries man.  This is a community site and anyone who speaks to me often I think can agree I am about community and sharing knowledge.
 
^_^
 
Glad you are getting exposure, if I helped then I am glad I can take the credit for helping. 
Post by Jekylhyde14 (392 posts) See mini bio Level 29
@Nova`Prime`:  
 
You're probably right about Superior being driven by a sort of Superman nostalgia. As I mentioned in my blog, Millar was a fan of the Donner Superman films. My theory about how he developed the idea for Superior is that after he saw the first Superman movie as a kid he imagined what it would be like to be able to transform into Superman (much like how Superior starts with Simon watching a Superior film). Of course, the idea of a kid turning into Superman is nothing new (Captain Marvel and Prime had already done it), so adult Millar added his own flair with the demon monkey and brought attention to a horrible disease by making the main character a young man with MS. The thing I like best about Millar's work is a lot of the ideas start out very simply and almost childlike before blowing up into the craziness of the adult world. I think to be a good comic writer you have to be able to tap into your childhood like that. 

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