Who or what killed Superboy?

#1 Posted by KidVega (22 posts) - 4 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

The video game "Death and Return of Superman" make me interested in Superboy, find some info in Wikipedia and here in comicvine and start read his adventures in cronological order.

His introduction was awsome, during the "Reign of the Supermen" story arc he start to learn how to be a hero thanks to Steel, and later by Guardian and Dubilex. And his adventures in hawaii were simple and funny and innocent like him, and its have logic because the comic was about him.
I don't understand the "Superboy and the Ravers" saga, but his introduction in Young Justice increase his contact between other superheroes in the "funny and simple way"...

If you ask me, when he change his costume the adventures of Superboy become... stupid, more and more, but Young Justice keep some of the original quality until the murder of Donna Troy.
At the 100th issue the comic was cancelled because the writters and the artists let Superboy popularity fall like a rock. >:(

The Young Justice crew return now as the new Teen Titans, where he changes his costume again, and his personality he wasn't stupid anymore now he become an introspective and doubtful guy.
In Teen Titans has no life except with the Titans and the Superman family ( Roxy? Rex? Guardian?Dubilex?Knockout?His friends of the Cadmus Project? Amnesia?)

This is my view, the first 80 issues Superboy was a very nice guy with a very positive actitude, the last 20 became in something so stupid and finally in Teen Titans we have a low autoesteem dude.

They killed Superboy, Prime only delivers the coup de grâce to Superboy

What do you think?
Sorry for my english :O

#2 Posted by Calvin (3479 posts) - 4 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

KidVega said:

"They killed Superboy, Prime only delivers the coup de grâce to Superboy"
It's hard not to agreed with that.

#3 Edited by Zoom (14636 posts) - 4 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Agreed. None of Young Justice was the same after Graduation Day. It all dropped in quality and ignored previous continuity.

This is because Geoff Johns, much as I like his work on the Flash and JSA, is no Peter David.

I didn't read the last 20 of Superboy so I can't speak for that.

#4 Posted by KidVega (22 posts) - 4 years, 2 months ago - Show Bio

Zoom said:

"Agreed. None of Young Justice was the same after Graduation Day. It all dropped in quality and ignored previous continuity."

Look at this:

Kryptonite?Maybe to the Titans Tomorrow Superboy (Tim Drake cloned him in this future)
But not our Kon-El in Superboy Annual #01 we see that:

I want my quiz points and my continuity back

#5 Posted by Grim (2049 posts) - 4 years, 25 days ago - Show Bio

Zoom said:

"Agreed. None of Young Justice was the same after Graduation Day. It all dropped in quality and ignored previous continuity.This is because Geoff Johns, much as I like his work on the Flash and JSA, is no Peter David.I didn't read the last 20 of Superboy so I can't speak for that."

i actually really like it after GD. the point of all of the changes was because they all just watched Donna Troy die, and they all felt like they where a bit responsible. so there where allot of personality changes. But it wasn't like Conner just came back as a book worm or a Batman type. he just got a bit quieter.
and idk what Superboy u where reading about before GD, but Superboy was never stupid. Hot headed, yes. Sometimes a bit anoying? Sure, early on. But he has never just been a dumb brute. the ways he utilizes his TT alone was always pretty genious.

#6 Posted by KidVega (22 posts) - 3 years, 10 months ago - Show Bio

After issue 80 this is the kind of things that we saw in the SB series
WHY, WHY!!!

#7 Posted by BatDance (2249 posts) - 3 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

John's obsession with the alternate Emoboy Prime killed him

#8 Posted by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - 3 years, 9 months ago - Show Bio

I like the new Superboy. He seems to have more layers, and a real purpose. He has his own book now, and to be perfectly honest, If it wasn't for what Johns' did with him, I never would've been interested in the character in the first place. Fun is fine, but I'll take a serious story over camp any day of the week.

Not saying anyone's wrong here, just offering a different opinion.

#9 Posted by Grim (2049 posts) - 3 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

@KidVega said:

"
After issue 80 this is the kind of things that we saw in the SB series
WHY, WHY!!! "

this wasn't serious, was it? i ask that already knowing the answer. This was in a time-frame where everyone's comics had a bit of a goofy tinge to them. and besides, this was the type of life superboy lead once he was out on his own. not the kissing ugly ladies thing, but the messed up, goofy "why me?" moments. its pretty much what made him so "stupid" as it was said earlier. He got as goofy as his life did, and Graduation day brought him back down to the serious side of life.

#10 Posted by Primmaster64 (21136 posts) - 2 years, 8 months ago - Show Bio

hmmm i see

Superboy

Kon-El/Connor Kent was cloned from the Kryptonian DNA of Superman, the Human DNA of Lex Luthor, and a third unknown source to be the ultimate living weapon.

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