Is Ororo Munroe aka Storm an A-List Character?

#1851 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@PowerHerc said:

No.

If she was she'd have her own ongoing and she's be making cameos in every book Marvel publishes.

She's just not an A-lister.

I think her numbers prove it.

Actually #'s prove the opposite.

nope

#1852 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

nope

You gotta do better than "nope" on page 93. Otherwise you're bumping the thread for no reason.
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#1853 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@cuddles666 said:

@jhazzroucher: I think she was treated as an A-lister until recently. Nowadays, Marvel seems to be playing Black Widow as their main female, with Captain Marvel as a close second. It sucks, it really does.

Storm was never treated as an A-lister but she still manages to be on top of all the female characters of Marvel.

#1854 Posted by cuddles666 (310 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@cuddles666 said:

@jhazzroucher: I think she was treated as an A-lister until recently. Nowadays, Marvel seems to be playing Black Widow as their main female, with Captain Marvel as a close second. It sucks, it really does.

Storm was never treated as an A-lister but she still manages to be on top of all the female characters of Marvel.

Yeah. I'm still ticked off that they chose Psylocke as the designated female in the Marvel Super Heroes arcade game. :(

#1855 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

nope

You gotta do better than "nope" on page 93. Otherwise you're bumping the thread for no reason.

one word doesn't mean bumping the thread. it's just one word to disagree with your statement

#1856 Edited by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

I have to disagree with you, Jhazz. In my opinion, Storm is in no way close to the likes of Captain America, Spider Man, Hulk etc. in terms of popularity. Even Cyclops is more important and well-known than her ( and of course there's Wolverine ). She is right up there with Psylocke, Emma, Jean and the other X-gals. That makes her a tier-2 character.

The tier-1 leading ladies of Marvel are Sue Richards, Carol Danvers ( Ms. Marvel) & She-Hulk. Even Black Cat ( who started out as a secondary character in Spider-Man stories ) is more well known than Storm.

Storm's populatiry is getting built up, slowly, but yeah, she simply isnt up there with the likes of Ms. Marvel right now. And her being the Wonder Woman of Marvel is a little far away. Might be possible in the future but definitely not happening right NOW.

Anyways that is my opinion, and it differs from your OPINION ( it's not a fact). So lets leave it at that lol.

#1857 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

I have to disagree with you, Jhazz. In my opinion, Storm is in no way close to the likes of Captain America, Spider Man, Hulk etc. in terms of popularity. Even Cyclops is more important and well-known than her ( and of course there's Wolverine ). She is right up there with Psylocke, Emma, Jean and the other X-gals. That makes her a tier-2 character.

The tier-1 leading ladies of Marvel are Sue Richards, Carol Danvers ( Ms. Marvel) & She-Hulk. Even Black Cat ( who started out as a secondary character in Spider-Man stories ) is more well known than Storm.

Storm's populatiry is getting built up, slowly, but yeah, she simply isnt up there with the likes of Ms. Marvel right now. And her being the Wonder Woman of Marvel is a little far away. Might be possible in the future but definitely not happening right NOW.

Anyways that is my opinion, and it differs from your OPINION ( it's not a fact). So lets leave it at that lol.

I strongly disagree

#1858 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: I knew you would lol.

Anyways, please feel free to continue supporting your favorite character.

#1859 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: I knew you would lol.

Anyways, please feel free to continue supporting your favorite character.

More people know Storm more than all of those you have mentioned.

#1860 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: I knew you would lol.

Anyways, please feel free to continue supporting your favorite character.

and it's not really supporting my favorite character. It's just a fact that Ororo Munroe aka Storm is the most popular woman in Marvel

#1861 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

#1862 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

opinions indeed don't count. numbers do.

#1863 Posted by Bogey (948 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

opinions indeed don't count. numbers do.

So how many issues deep has her own ongoing gone on for?

#1864 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bogey said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

opinions indeed don't count. numbers do.

So how many issues deep has her own ongoing gone on for?

i know that matters but appearances still matters that's why she is going up in the most number of appearances list

#1865 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Yes. Please post the said numbers, and facts.

#1866 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: Yes. Please post the said numbers, and facts.

i have done it already. just check my prvious posts, especially in comics and in video games

#1867 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Please give me a link to the mentioned post with the cold, hard facts and numbers that you're talking about.

#1868 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

and even an article calculated that Storm is on top

#1869 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Please post a link to it.

#1870 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: Please post a link to it.

just check the other thread.

#1871 Posted by Bogey (948 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@Bogey said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

opinions indeed don't count. numbers do.

So how many issues deep has her own ongoing gone on for?

i know that matters but appearances still matters that's why she is going up in the most number of appearances list

An appearance could be one picture of her in the entire comic. Not that reliable. A comic could show a lineup of the X-team and a picture of Storm is in it.. That would count as an appearance.

#1872 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bogey said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Bogey said:

@jhazzroucher said:

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: You think she is.

Please post some facts and proof that she is the no.1 Woman of Marvel. Opinions don't count .

opinions indeed don't count. numbers do.

So how many issues deep has her own ongoing gone on for?

i know that matters but appearances still matters that's why she is going up in the most number of appearances list

An appearance could be one picture of her in the entire comic. Not that reliable. A comic could show a lineup of the X-team and a picture of Storm is in it.. That would count as an appearance.

it is still made into consideration cos that would mean people/readers would see her from time to time

#1873 Posted by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: That is a hilarious theory.

You don't need to "see" someone in every page of every comic on a regular basis for them to become famous as an A-list character On their OWN. That is more like shoving a Mary Sue down readers' throats.

Even one well-written book or ongoing story is more than enough to show, or "market" any character. Captain America, Spider Man and Hulk have no need to pop into every comic just to be "seen" from time to time. They're famous for their own stories and teams and are definitely in a class above Storm, sorry.

#1874 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

one word doesn't mean bumping the thread. it's just one word to disagree with your statement

One word does mean bumping the thread because there's nothing attached. "Nope" doesn't lend much to a conversation....
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#1875 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

#1876 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xanni15 said:

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

If you say the X-Men are A-list that means the team itself..not every member.
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#1877 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

one word doesn't mean bumping the thread. it's just one word to disagree with your statement

One word does mean bumping the thread because there's nothing attached. "Nope" doesn't lend much to a conversation....

how is "nope" and "i disagree with the statement: differ?

Besides. my intention was not to bump but to disagree with you.

#1878 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Xanni15 said:

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

If you say the X-Men are A-list that means the team itself..not every member.

True.

#1879 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

how is "nope" and "i disagree with the statement: differ?

Besides. my intention was not to bump but to disagree with you.

They don't differ, what I'm saying is disagreeing without explaining why you disagree appears like a pointless bump, it contributes nothing to the conversation. You disagree with most of what I say when it's about Storm, you think this is news to me or anyone else? 
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#1880 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

how is "nope" and "i disagree with the statement: differ?

Besides. my intention was not to bump but to disagree with you.

They don't differ, what I'm saying is disagreeing without explaining why you disagree appears like a pointless bump, it contributes nothing to the conversation. You disagree with most of what I say when it's about Storm, you think this is news to me or anyone else?

if they don't differ, then there's nothing wrong with just saying "nope"

is Xanni's reply to you a "pointless bump"?

@Xanni15 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Xanni15 said:

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

If you say the X-Men are A-list that means the team itself..not every member.

True.

#1881 Edited by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

is Xanni's reply to you a "pointless bump"?

@Xanni15 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Xanni15 said:

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

If you say the X-Men are A-list that means the team itself..not every member.

True.

 I think you're asking these questions to continue to pointlessly bump the thread. All of this is common sense. How those two things you compared have anything to do with what I'm saying to you is beyond me. Simply saying you disagree without stating why on page 93 is a pointless bump because you're not advancing the conversation in the thread. Xanni's post isn't a pointless bump or even a bump at all, he made a statement that I responded to and "True" was his further analysis of that point. Your problem wasn't that your response was one word, you're ignoring the difference in what was said and why.
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#1882 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

is Xanni's reply to you a "pointless bump"?

@Xanni15 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@Xanni15 said:

Technically, I guess she is since the X-Men are and she's apart of them, right?

If you say the X-Men are A-list that means the team itself..not every member.

True.

I think you're asking these questions to continue to pointlessly bump the thread. All of this is common sense. How those two things you compared have anything to do with what I'm saying to you is beyond me. Simply saying you disagree without stating why on page 93 is a pointless bump because you're not advancing the conversation in the thread. Xanni's post isn't a pointless bump or even a bump at all, he made a statement that I responded to and "True" was his further analysis of that point. Your problem wasn't that your response was one word, you're ignoring the difference in what was said and why.

I don' think there's a difference with how i commented to how Xanni has commented. We all just wanted to say what we feel. it's not a pointless bump.

Anyway, let's go back on topic.

#1883 Edited by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Yes. On topic :

Your opinion is that Storm is an A-list character right up there with Spider Man & Captain America. It is only your opinion, not proven fact.

#1884 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

I don' think there's a difference with how i commented to how Xanni has commented. We all just wanted to say what we feel. it's not a pointless bump.

There's clearly a difference, but I'm saying you did something wrong so why wouldn't you try and project what YOU did on someone else?
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#1885 Posted by Xanni15 (6758 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro: My bad, man. I replied as soon as I saw your reply.

I had no intention of bumping the thread, just acknowledging that Vance was correct with his reply to me, there was nothing more to say.

#1886 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@Xanni15 said:

@Vance Astro: My bad, man. I replied as soon as I saw your reply.

I had no intention of bumping the thread, just acknowledging that Vance was correct with his reply to me, there was nothing more to say.

Ignore what Jhazz is saying, you didn't do anything wrong. He did.
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#1887 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@Xanni15 said:

@Vance Astro: My bad, man. I replied as soon as I saw your reply.

I had no intention of bumping the thread, just acknowledging that Vance was correct with his reply to me, there was nothing more to say.

Ignore what Jhazz is saying, you didn't do anything wrong. He did.

See how Xanni reacted???

it wasn't me who was wrong. and it's not Xanni. Now you know who.

Tell me Vance, are you telling me, that after all the discussions that we've had about the thread title, it's unnecessary to just say "nope"?

#1888 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: Yes. On topic :

Your opinion is that Storm is an A-list character right up there with Spider Man & Captain America. It is only your opinion, not proven fact.

yours as well.

#1889 Edited by Avenger85 (1915 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: Yes. That is what I am saying from the beginning. It's opinion. Don't call it a fact.

#1890 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

See how Xanni reacted???

it wasn't me who was wrong. and it's not Xanni. Now you know who.

Tell me Vance, are you telling me, that after all the discussions that we've had about the thread title, it's unnecessary to just say "nope"?

He reacted like that because of what you said. Not because he thought he did something wrong off the bat. That's why I told him to ignore you.
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#1891 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@jhazzroucher said:

See how Xanni reacted???

it wasn't me who was wrong. and it's not Xanni. Now you know who.

Tell me Vance, are you telling me, that after all the discussions that we've had about the thread title, it's unnecessary to just say "nope"?

He reacted like that because of what you said. Not because he thought he did something wrong off the bat. That's why I told him to ignore you.

It is because of what you said to me, which he thought he did the same since he only used one word.

#1892 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@Avenger85 said:

@jhazzroucher: Yes. That is what I am saying from the beginning. It's opinion. Don't call it a fact.

but it's a fact that the numbers are real, for Storm's number of appearances

#1893 Posted by SUNMAN (7256 posts) - - Show Bio

lol you all still ganging up on jhazz?

#1894 Posted by Vance Astro (91286 posts) - - Show Bio
@jhazzroucher said:

It is because of what you said to me, which he thought he did the same since he only used one word.

Don't make up stuff.
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#1895 Posted by butterflykyss (3919 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes she is..

#1896 Posted by drgnx (3565 posts) - - Show Bio
This Thread Won't Die!

#1897 Edited by butterflykyss (3919 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:
This Thread Won't Die!

no it want my friend!!

#1898 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:
This Thread Won't Die!

of course it won't

#1899 Posted by jhazzroucher (16148 posts) - - Show Bio

@sunman said:

lol you all still ganging up on jhazz?

hahahaha

#1900 Posted by drgnx (3565 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: @butterflykyss:

Well it is attracting views, and conversation and isn't really a negative thread, so guess that is not a bad thing ;).

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