Starfire Takes Center Stage in DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS #18

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Posted by G-Man (33960 posts) - - Show Bio

The reaction to Starfire lately has been all over the place. As her character continues to develop in the pages of RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS, we're seeing that not only can she kick major butt, she also is a character worthy of respect, especially by the people of her planet.

Starfire fans will be overjoyed to learn that in March we will be getting an extra dose of Starfire. DC has announced on The Source (are they still calling their blog that name?) Starfire will have a solo story in DC UNIVERSE #18.

Cover by Ryan Sook

DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS has already focused on Deadman, the Challengers of the Unknown, Vandal Savage, Kid Flash and Black Lightning and Blue Devil. Issue #17 will focus on Arsenal. Isn't it time we see some more female characters in the spotlight?

The one-shot story will be written by Joe Keatinge with art by Federico Dallocchio. The issue goes on sale March 20. Here's what Joe had to say:

After working with illustrator Ricken on our Arsenal issue, I got the bug to do more with the Outlaws, so getting the immediate opportunity to work with illustrator Federico Dallocchio on Starfire is very, very ideal. Even better, she's a character I've liked for a long time now, especially in the classic Wolfman/Perez Titans era. Shining a solo spotlight to where she's at now in DC COMICS-THE NEW 52 is something I'm very enthusiastic about.

Will you be picking this up?

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#1 Posted by Decept-O (7277 posts) - - Show Bio

That's an incredible cover by Ryan Sook. Wow.

#2 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

#3 Posted by Press Oblivion (1643 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this looks like something worth taking a look at. I like the writing style of Keatinge on Glory so this is promising.

#4 Posted by ccraft (5259 posts) - - Show Bio

She needs to be a darker orange :l

I'll probably pick this up for my sister.

#5 Posted by xtremekidx (576 posts) - - Show Bio

might be!!sounds interesting!

#6 Posted by StMichalofWilson (3819 posts) - - Show Bio

Starfire will also be naked! Yay! :P

#7 Posted by IronAngelX (192 posts) - - Show Bio

I really thought the command suit she wore in the Red Hood and the Outlaws was a good change. They were still able to show off her curves like they wanted but it wasn't an overabundance of skin like we've been getting.

#8 Posted by Squalleon (4609 posts) - - Show Bio

Year 2014 : DC finally decides that starfire will walk nude and she will be covered only by her hair :-P

#9 Posted by zachkastner (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds good! And if he is a fan of the character then I trust she's in good hands. I'll be picking up both Arsenal and Starfire's solo installments.

#10 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (33360 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ravager4 shes had that amount of clothing nearly her entire creation
#11 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jonny_Anonymous lol, no. She's always dressed in revealing costumes, sure, but this one takes it to a whole new level. She might as well be naked.
#12 Posted by Outside_85 (8982 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope the story is better than the art...that page is simply ghastly.

#13 Posted by namtabmi (99 posts) - - Show Bio

@zachkastner said:

Sounds good! And if he is a fan of the character then I trust she's in good hands. I'll be picking up both Arsenal and Starfire's solo installments.

This

#14 Posted by Twentyfive (2845 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

Haha! Too true.

#15 Posted by Stormbox (2001 posts) - - Show Bio

@Outside_85 said:

I hope the story is better than the art...that page is simply ghastly.

Thats the unfinished cover

#16 Posted by Crash_Recovery (850 posts) - - Show Bio

That costume is just in such poor taste. Not saying that her previous costumes were family-friendly, but this one is just...yikes.

#17 Posted by SmoothJammin (2333 posts) - - Show Bio

It almost looks like her costume was painted on

#18 Posted by Icarusflies (12503 posts) - - Show Bio

Why are the gorillas dressed like Nightwing?

And still not buying this series....

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#19 Posted by Trodorne (2587 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

Why are the gorillas dressed like Nightwing?

Lol I know right?

#20 Posted by Cole_Mercer (214 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Starfire is worthy of a solo title, she's an underdog like Dazzler but shes's interesting............I'll be reading this.

#21 Posted by CircularLogic (282 posts) - - Show Bio

@ccraft said:

She needs to be a darker orange :l

I'll probably pick this up for my sister.

Don't. Maybe Joe Keatinge will do better, but Starfire's current depiction in the new 52 has been incredibly criticized for being very misogynistic, and may not be appropriate depending on what age your sister is.

#22 Posted by Miss_Garrick (1757 posts) - - Show Bio

hmm, we'll see.

#23 Posted by dadarkknight36310 (101 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

Well Im pretty sure you know that the more direct contact Starfire has with the sun the more powerful she gets. So it makes since for her to have less clothing. Superman is the same way but he was raised here and he knows its would be unethical to fly around nude. I feel that if they could get away with it Starfire probably would be nude like Dejah Thoris. Since in the original stories the people of mars are suppose to be nude.

#24 Posted by Dernman (15074 posts) - - Show Bio

woohoo! Looking forward to it.

#25 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

@dadarkknight36310 said:

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

Well Im pretty sure you know that the more direct contact Starfire has with the sun the more powerful she gets. So it makes since for her to have less clothing. Superman is the same way but he was raised here and he knows its would be unethical to fly around nude. I feel that if they could get away with it Starfire probably would be nude like Dejah Thoris. Since in the original stories the people of mars are suppose to be nude.

@dadarkknight36310 oh I'm aware of the poor justification they use to dress her in little more than nipple pasties and a thong. But really, what is it about her exposing her breasts that makes her absorb that much more energy than, say, her legs (which are strikingly more covered than her chest)? And what's the excuse for when she's indoors, or at night? You can have a revealing costume that is still tasteful, but this is about as tasteless as they come.

Though, I will agree that they'd draw her nude if they could. That much is clear.

#26 Posted by bloggerboy (574 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

what is it about her exposing her breasts that makes her absorb that much more energy

You sound like Linkara. Still, a valid point.

For reference, you'd think Superman would only be wearing a speedo to absorb sunlight.

#27 Posted by DonFelipe (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

@dadarkknight36310 said:

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

Well Im pretty sure you know that the more direct contact Starfire has with the sun the more powerful she gets. So it makes since for her to have less clothing. Superman is the same way but he was raised here and he knows its would be unethical to fly around nude. I feel that if they could get away with it Starfire probably would be nude like Dejah Thoris. Since in the original stories the people of mars are suppose to be nude.

@dadarkknight36310 oh I'm aware of the poor justification they use to dress her in little more than nipple pasties and a thong. But really, what is it about her exposing her breasts that makes her absorb that much more energy than, say, her legs (which are strikingly more covered than her chest)? And what's the excuse for when she's indoors, or at night? You can have a revealing costume that is still tasteful, but this is about as tasteless as they come.

Though, I will agree that they'd draw her nude if they could. That much is clear.

I'm with ... it's a shame editors and writers think female characters only seem to work when they're nude and/or have large breasts. This is a major reason why there's less and less female heroes in the long run. Focusing on the looks more than character development works for a few issues but not in the long run. Besides, Batman doesn't run around naked and many of the male superheroes are completely covered in whatever latex.

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#28 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

@DonFelipe said:

@Ravager4 said:

@dadarkknight36310 said:

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

Well Im pretty sure you know that the more direct contact Starfire has with the sun the more powerful she gets. So it makes since for her to have less clothing. Superman is the same way but he was raised here and he knows its would be unethical to fly around nude. I feel that if they could get away with it Starfire probably would be nude like Dejah Thoris. Since in the original stories the people of mars are suppose to be nude.

@dadarkknight36310 oh I'm aware of the poor justification they use to dress her in little more than nipple pasties and a thong. But really, what is it about her exposing her breasts that makes her absorb that much more energy than, say, her legs (which are strikingly more covered than her chest)? And what's the excuse for when she's indoors, or at night? You can have a revealing costume that is still tasteful, but this is about as tasteless as they come.

Though, I will agree that they'd draw her nude if they could. That much is clear.

I'm with ... it's a shame editors and writers think female characters only seem to work when they're nude and/or have large breasts. This is a major reason why there's less and less female heroes in the long run. Focusing on the looks more than character development works for a few issues but not in the long run. Besides, Batman doesn't run around naked and many of the male superheroes are completely covered in whatever latex.

Wait who are you with? You seemed to support my stance, yet you said you agreed with darkknight? Sorry, just confused.

#29 Posted by divingfalcon713 (282 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd read it. The artist looks competent enough to draw her looking powerful despite her small costume, and her body proportions don't look totally implausible here. As RHatO has progressed I've liked her character so it'd be nice to know more about her.

#30 Posted by SmashBrawler (5731 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, I can't wait to see Sook's finished cover.

#31 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

Looking forward to this. Starfire's always been among my favorite characters.

#32 Posted by Zeeguy91 (1109 posts) - - Show Bio

@Squalleon said:

Year 2014 : DC finally decides that starfire will walk nude and she will be covered only by her hair :-P

Hey, I'd be down with that. LOL

*runs away from being called a misogynist pig before people realize that he's just joking*

#33 Posted by Spideycap (212 posts) - - Show Bio

@Zeeguy91 said:

@Squalleon said:

Year 2014 : DC finally decides that starfire will walk nude and she will be covered only by her hair :-P

Hey, I'd be down with that. LOL

*runs away from being called a misogynist pig before people realize that he's just joking*

Honestly its not very far from what she wears now, so most people wouldnt even bat a lash at it lol.

#34 Posted by Decept-O (7277 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, the HATERZ for Starfire, whoa. Dang diggity.

#35 Posted by TDK_1997 (14891 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not really thrilled by this.

#36 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2221 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly forgot her costume even looked like that. It's been a long, long while since she appeared that way in Red Hood.

#37 Edited by movieartman (1189 posts) - - Show Bio

other than her arms being a bit short, her proportions look absolutly realistic, none of her features are exaggerated at all, and she is healthy looking not the stupid skinny sticks we see too offen. this is how such explicit outfits should be drawn with beautful respectful realism. skimpy outfits arent the problem, asses and breast jutting out absurdly is whats truly disrepectful, i have no problem with giving characters large breast (such as powergirl) but they dont need to sick out and be gigantic random orbs laying atop her chest.

compared to Dreck like this the starfire image above is the freaking mona lisa

#38 Posted by ScreamingGhost (80 posts) - - Show Bio

DC really needs to kick these type of costumes to the curb. Power Girl got a less revealing costume so to make up for the lack of skin they take less clothes from Starfire? Its hard to take this character seriously dressed like that.

#39 Posted by knightofthechronicle (689 posts) - - Show Bio

@IronAngelX: Easily they could have made it her new suit if they probably turned it into the same color scheme her regular suit is.

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#40 Posted by jinxuandi (595 posts) - - Show Bio

@DonFelipe said:

I'm with ... it's a shame editors and writers think female characters only seem to work when they're nude and/or have large breasts. This is a major reason why there's less and less female heroes in the long run. Focusing on the looks more than character development works for a few issues but not in the long run. Besides, Batman doesn't run around naked and many of the male superheroes are completely covered in whatever latex.

Well said. In television advertising, research has proven the tired old trope "sex sells" untrue. People pay more attention to ads with sexy content but, ironically, are actually less inclined to buy goods or services featuring such content. The researchers believed that this was because, during the commercial, the viewers were thinking about sex rather than the product the ad was supposed to be selling.

I think a parallel could easily be made here. Scantily clad female characters might be more likely to get a customer's attention for one or two issues, as you said. But for a long-term commitment, a writer and artist need to get the reader thinking about something other than the character's physique, which is difficult when a character is nearly nude.

#41 Posted by movieartman (1189 posts) - - Show Bio

@DonFelipe said:

I'm with ... it's a shame editors and writers think female characters only seem to work when they're nude and/or have large breasts. This is a major reason why there's less and less female heroes in the long run. Focusing on the looks more than character development works for a few issues but not in the long run. Besides, Batman doesn't run around naked and many of the male superheroes are completely covered in whatever latex.

males dont do so as they are not Phisicaly Beautiful in the way females are, even to female viewers. there phisical form simply is not half as visualy appealing or artistic as the female form. and batman and such need armor and protection, starfire and powergirl and such are pretty much bullet proof they have no need to be covered up, and real women and female characters should be proud and unashamed of there bodies and sexuality.

#42 Posted by movieartman (1189 posts) - - Show Bio

@ScreamingGhost: yes and while i miss the boob window i would understand and put up with a new outfit, if it was not a horrid peice of crap

#43 Posted by doordoor123 (3721 posts) - - Show Bio

@Squalleon said:

Year 2014 : DC finally decides that starfire will walk nude and she will be covered only by her hair :-P

Have you seen New 52 Circe? That is her exact costume.

#44 Posted by Grim (2079 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else see an old school Nightwing design on those villains?

#45 Posted by SUNMAN (7239 posts) - - Show Bio

her top still looks ugly. Can we give her staps please. Not a fan of the stick/pase ons.

Also first Red Arrow now Star Fire. Is RHATO getting cancelled are something. Just speaking for myself I pick up DC presents for characters not featured in other titles. I've go to pass on this and the Red Arrow issue

#46 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

@Icarusflies said:

Why are the gorillas dressed like Nightwing?

And still not buying this series....

LOL

#47 Posted by wr3h (396 posts) - - Show Bio

Starfire....

What are you even wearing....

You're supposed to look like this.

-childhood destroyed-

:(

#48 Posted by Vitacura (80 posts) - - Show Bio

Those are the wrong shoes for that outfi, she should be in high heels sandals, no boots.

#49 Posted by cacarl (138 posts) - - Show Bio

People should stop complaining about the new Starfire. Read Red Hood and The Outlaws. She is more than a big pair of tits. YOU are the ones who like to make fun of women and not DC Comics. YOU are the ones writing of those jokes about her, not DC Comics. Like you'll not have a girlfriend like her. Heck, I'm pretty sure half of the people here never had a girlfriend.

#50 Posted by queenfrost_ (2499 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

What's the title of this issue? "Let's see how little she can wear"?

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