@wessaari said:
Sexualization doesnt necessarily mean to be degrading. What about her sexuality is degrading, she has only had sex with Roy. In story speaking, why does her views onn sex and her differences with Earth customs have to mean that is degrading her. She has been that way since day one. The way she assimilates language is through physical touch, usually with a kiss because it expresses embrace, friendship, and unity. Yes there are some stories that may have taken advantage of that, but in RHTO most people judged her way too quickly. Sex for her isnt viewed the same in her culture, and she only did it so he would shut up and stop talking about her past. In our standards it is differnt, and if you really wanna know the character you have to look at it in a different light. She isnt going around sleeping with random guys, she is actually in a relationship with Roy Harper, the extent of that relationship hasnt been explicitly said but they care for each other. To me, her being sexualized is for her only purpose to be eye candy for male readers. Yet, she was misjudged, she showed her skills, and once she changed her uniform people actually payed attention. There are just some people who cant take her seriously just because she is wearing clothing that the reader doesnt agree with, but once she puts on something suitable to their tastes all of a sudden she is an interesting character. It just seems that you want to change her character because you dont approve of it. She has shown what she is physically, emotionally, and personally capable of before the space arc, but no one wanted to admit that. once again, issue 6 was a monumental release for the detractors of Kori, because people judged her too quickly and gave her no credit for who she really was. the funny thing is, all she wore in issue 6 was bikins, and little clothing. But I didnt see a half naked alien tease for male readers, I saw a beautiful kindred spirit both physically and emotionally. But it doesnt matter anymore because of what she wears? Those who view her as a sexualized character and overlook this, are just as bad as those who read the comic to see Kori as a piece of meat.
Well, for starters, sexualization =/= sexuality. Sexuality doesn't mean degrading, but sexualization, I think, actually does. Or perhaps a better word, to avoid confusion, would be objectifying. I think objectifying is degrading, and I think that Starfire has always been an objectified character, but I don't think she needs to continue being one. Other people have accused her of being slutty or sleeping around, and I actually completely agree with you that her relationships have been far from slutty. And before going much further, as I seem to find myself constantly having to repeat, I love Starfire and I love RHatO. All of my complaints about her outfit should be read as complaints against the creative team's decision to pander to horny readers, not as complaints against Kori.
Where you and I seem to differ is that you think her being objectified requires her to have no redeeming characteristics other than being eye candy (as per the underlined -- if I'm misreading you, please let me know). And again, while I cannot speak for everyone, I loved Starfire from the beginning. She was always interesting to me. She did not become interesting "all of a sudden" when she put on the suit, nor did she become disinteresting when she took it off. I committed to buying every issue of RHatO on the spot after reading the first TPB, so I agree that she had "show what she is physically, emotionally, and personally capable of before the space arc." I wasn't part of any conversations at that point, and had I been, I'd have said, as I say now, that there's definitely a lot more to her than the costume.
The question is, beyond fanservice -- in other words, beyond blatantly drawing a female character in little more than underwear because people get off to it -- there's little justification for her continuing to wear what she wears. First of all, it does harm. It distracts plenty of people from the story because, well...it's visually distracting. More importantly, it has been confirmed that some readers are put off to the entire series because of how she is portrayed. No, that's not fair, but it's a reality, and if you could be getting those readers in addition to the current ones by simply giving the powerful, respectable lead a more reasonable outfit, why wouldn't you? The answer: because the makers of this book prefer the fanservice route. As was quite nicely put by someone in another thread, pretty much all of the excuses for her near-nudity are flimsy at best, because whether you go from the customs perspective or the heated body perspective or the absorbing solar power perspective, there could be a more modest suit which had been designed with those features in mind.
So the issue is that there are non-story reasons for portraying her the way they do, and the best in-story defense we get is that she's not from around here. That excuse may have gone 30 years ago, but in a progressive, 21st-century society, I'd hope we could recognize that maybe that's a terrible excuse for having an otherwise self-aware and powerful character dress in a way which makes boys drool. Kori is awesome; I just wish the artists had more respect for her than they seem to. Her outfit doesn't make it impossible for me to appreciate her, but if it's a potential hindrance and serves no purpose but fanservice, then wouldn't it be better to change it anyway?
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