What is the main appeal of Spider-Woman?

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#51 Posted by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: @Cafeterialoca said:
" @E.I.S.A.M.: I guess cause they like the costume design? In my opinion, she looks like Ketchup and Mustard girl. "
She looks more like, "If I use black widows symbol I'll be sued, and if I use the same colors and name as spidey, I'll be sued, so I'll just be ambiguous about the entire situation and hope no one asks... girl.

#52 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@E.I.S.A.M.: I guess Spider-Girl roles off the tongue more...
#53 Posted by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca:  
Yeah.... But if you really want to know the honest to god, true and absolute reason that spider-woman is so prominent right now, it is this.... Bendis loves Spider-Woman.  
As I stated before, he wanted to use her for Alias, but Marvel couldn't let him. He got to write an Avengers book, and so he put Spider-Woman on it.... and then he went crazy.  
He started writing two Avengers books out of three a year later, both somehow found a way to have Spider-Woman in them. A year later the he was writing two out of four, with Spider-Woman featuring prominently into one. All of which he helped create. All of which Marvel said yes to, because hey, they were making money. Now He's writing the two main Avengers books out of four give-or take, and they have Spider-Woman once again featured prominently.  
Bendis is crazy about Spider-Woman, and in general, and Marvel wont say no to him because he's been making them money. What he wants, he gets. And he wants Spider-Woman. And he's gonna make sure you, me, and everyone else wants her weather they like it or not. Just like the Sentry... and we know how that turned out.....
#54 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@E.I.S.A.M.:  I know the Bendis thing, but I want to believe it's more than that.  I thought there was at least some fan driven movement behind it.
Also, it annoys me how continuity doesn't matter outside of New Avengers to Bendis.  I mean, HELICARRIER KILLING SENTRY/VOID?! Bull!
#55 Posted by NeoAndroid (173 posts) - - Show Bio
@Gylan Thomas: Wow that's just sad, Marvel will be the but end of every joke. Well i guess they could use a hooker angle on X-Woman then and it actually basically be true because the guy who made her. But seriously, theres alot of talented artists that need more coverage and they chose porn artists instead. 
 
And A Chalk Board has more persoanlity than spider woman.
#56 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeoAndroid: That's not fair!  You can write on a chalkboard!
#57 Posted by NeoAndroid (173 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: Touche lol But yeah i have read comics she is in and read her origin story the one that got re-done. Read it all and im still 'what a boring character, does she even have a point of being apart from a female version of spider-man' And theres also so many spider-women now. Why not use Julia Carpenter (sp) atleast she has a kid that could add a dynamic to the team
#58 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeoAndroid: But haven't the other ones been killed?  If I recall, one was under Bendis too.
#59 Posted by War Killer (19971 posts) - - Show Bio

To me Spider-Woman doesn't fit right for the main Avengers team, since she returned after Secret Invasion, it would kind of make more sense to put her on New Avengers since she's kinda "new" to the world right now. Plus New Avengers has three females on the team, Avengers just have one and the rest is all guys, I mean why not put Ms. Marvel on the team with Spider-Woman, or why not use She-Hulk, or maybe bring in some newer faces like Invisible Woman, she'd be great addition to the Avengers line-up, plus it would be nice to see her in an environment other than the FF and show people why she's considered a powerhouse (and I know I'm not the only one who feel's this way about Sue). Or why not bring in some more female X-ladies? I mean why does Wolverine and Beast get to be the only X-Men/Avengers?

#60 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@War Killer: Wait, Storm has never been an Avenger?!
#61 Posted by NeoAndroid (173 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: 
http://www.comicvine.com/arachne/29-16197/ shes alive and well and not dead 
@War Killer:  I agree with you on all accounts, especially Ms.Marvel, Sue Storm, And X-Females.

 
#62 Posted by Kid_Zombie (824 posts) - - Show Bio

She's huge because Bendis loves her so much and has made her his go to female. Dosn't make sence that shes on avengers and Ms.marvel isn't (i like Ms.Marvel way way more) but i just finished reading new avengers #1 and i liked it way way way more then Avengers #1 so i stoped caring at that point. At least my Ms.Marvel is in the better book (so far)

#63 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeoAndroid:  Huh, I was almost certain she was dead.
#64 Posted by War Killer (19971 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca said:
" @War Killer: Wait, Storm has never been an Avenger?! "
As far as I know she hasn't, but I don't know who's been on every single team roster, so I could be wrong.
#65 Posted by Gylan Thomas (2727 posts) - - Show Bio
@NeoAndroid said:
" @Gylan Thomas: Wow that's just sad, Marvel will be the but end of every joke. Well i guess they could use a hooker angle on X-Woman then and it actually basically be true because the guy who made her. But seriously, theres alot of talented artists that need more coverage and they chose porn artists instead.   And A Chalk Board has more persoanlity than spider woman. "
Surely it really depends who's writing her.
I liek spider-woman. Enjoyed her short lived Bendis series.
Any fictional character is only as good as the person writing them.
#66 Posted by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: @Cafeterialoca said:
" @E.I.S.A.M.:  I know the Bendis thing, but I want to believe it's more than that.  I thought there was at least some fan driven movement behind it. Also, it annoys me how continuity doesn't matter outside of New Avengers to Bendis.  I mean, HELICARRIER KILLING SENTRY/VOID?! Bull! "
There really wasn't a huge outcry for Jessica Drew. But there wasn't a huge outcry for a hit-man monkey, and they did it anyway. That's kinda Marvel's thing now. It's not your universe anymore. They should just use the tag line; We just do s*** just to do it. 
And that whole Helicarrier hitting Void-ery felt like it was taken right out of Justice League: Star crossed. In fact, I felt like I was watching a JLU re-run, crossed with Secret Invasion, and Secret War.  
Seriously, I don't know why everyone is praising Brian Bendis right now. He's a good writer, but his Avengers stuff is his weakest, most pointlessly boring stuff. I say if you like him, criticize him so he'll do better work, or leave so some one else could clean up his mess.... Sorry. I'm chugging hater-aid.
#67 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@E.I.S.A.M.: Don't worry, I'm a little fed up with him too.
Besides the massive cop out that was the end of Siege and the fact that Dark Avengers were not used to their full potential in their own series, it just becomes a bit annoying how he controls almost the Marvel U right now.  Hell, New Avengers was the only series to get a finale!
#68 Posted by AgentOrange (306 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca:  Oh spider woman
 
well men just want her and women want to be like her,,,especially the history and background so they can use that as an excuse for their Crazy behavior!!
 
 
B$£%* much? yes I do
#69 Posted by NeoAndroid (173 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: Nah she's not dead, there was something about her losing her powers and being paralized but she was brought back in Civil War, you see alot of her in Ms Marvels Series. 
@Kid_Zombie: I like Ms.Marvel alot more than Spider-Woman also because of many factors, and since she was once posted to be like the Wonder Woman of the MU (Ms Marvel im talking about). I dont know why she isnt in. But i just hope they dont lose her at all (MM again).
@Gylan Thomas: Yeah your right i guess it does depend on who writes the character but i havent found one writer that actually makes me like her at all. That and shes not the most original character theres so many spider-woman now that alot have to be killed or get renamed so you know Jessica Drew is number 1 on it. But still i liked herish in Mighty Avengers, but then she was the Skrull Queen. So maybe its my spider phobia coming out in to comics as well as real life lol


#70 Edited by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca:  @Cafeterialoca said:

" @E.I.S.A.M.: Don't worry, I'm a little fed up with him too. Besides the massive cop out that was the end of Siege and the fact that Dark Avengers were not used to their full potential in their own series, it just becomes a bit annoying how he controls almost the Marvel U right now.  Hell, New Avengers was the only series to get a finale! "

You know, when you think about it, it's all one big cop out. Not just siege, but the entire dark sage he was spinning.  
It all started with Secret War, which basically was Nick Fury's exit from  S.H.I.E.L.D. The story goes... 
#71 Posted by Cafeterialoca (1502 posts) - - Show Bio
@E.I.S.A.M.: Well, even more than that:  What was the message?  The moral?
Sure, Civil War had liberties debate, and Dark Reign was don't trust your leaders.  But it looks pretty large scope nonsense in hindsight.
And to top it all off, what a crappy way to end it all.  No reflection, just beat up the Void and the day is saved.  No lessons learned and everyone is happy.  Bah!  I don't like it.
#72 Posted by E.I.S.A.M. (369 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cafeterialoca: @Cafeterialoca said:
" @E.I.S.A.M.: Well, even more than that:  What was the message?  The moral? Sure, Civil War had liberties debate, and Dark Reign was don't trust your leaders.  But it looks pretty large scope nonsense in hindsight. And to top it all off, what a crappy way to end it all.  No reflection, just beat up the Void and the day is saved.  No lessons learned and everyone is happy.  Bah!  I don't like it. "
Exactly! Whatever message they had before has been thrown out the window in favor of what was written in What if...? Civil War. You can't trust the top cop, but since it's Captain America, you can! But wait, didn't half the marvel universe go to war with him when they disagreed with him on a government issue!?! Not just an argument... A WAR!  Wouldn't that happen agai-- oh, wait, wait, it's Marvel. It doesn't have to make sense as long as it makes money.

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