Which avengers could Spider-man beat,and lose?

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#1 Edited by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, I think he'd beat Captain America, Iron Man, and hawkeye, and lose to Thor, and Hulk.

#2 Posted by vicioushero (163 posts) - - Show Bio

Peter Parker Spider-man takes em all. Otto loses to Captain America cause of hubris.

#3 Edited by Perethorn (2848 posts) - - Show Bio

From those listed he only beats Cap and Hawkeye.

#4 Posted by QueenCorp15 (989 posts) - - Show Bio

Hed lose to thor but beat cap blackwidow hawkeye iron man an i believe since peter is so smart that hed be able to beat hulk in some way but hed get the sh&t kucked out of but hed still win

#5 Posted by kcjr (190 posts) - - Show Bio

There are so many powerhouses on the current avengers team, he cant beat Hulk, Hyperion, Thor, Captain Universe. He can beat Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, Spiderwoman, Manifold. On a good day he can beat Iron Man, but Iron Man can also beat him.

#6 Posted by Spideysense44 (1745 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman can beat all.of them^^ except captain universe,thor,and hyperion.. ecspecially hawkeye wow are u even serious

#7 Posted by hawkblade9 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

#8 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Big Spiderman fan here, but what make you think the Amazing One can beat Hulk and Thor for the majority?

#9 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Big Spiderman fan here, but what make you think the Amazing One can beat Hulk and Thor for the majority?

Yeah, I think that Thor would beat Spiderman, but spider-man MAY be able to outsmart Hulk, you know he did drop a cement truck on him once.

#10 Posted by wanonalake (292 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Spiderman is my favorite hero and I agree with all of that except Thor. Keep in mind i don't know a lot about Thor, but i thought to had to be SUPER strong to even hurt Thor, like hulk or superman. Am i wrong? If so i guess i could see spiderman dodging all of Thors attacks and than occasionally wailing on him.

#11 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Big Spiderman fan here, but what make you think the Amazing One can beat Hulk and Thor for the majority?

Yeah, I think that Thor would beat Spiderman, but spider-man MAY be able to outsmart Hulk, you know he did drop a cement truck on him once.

Yeah, I know about that. I chalk that up as a fluke win, cause everyone know Hulk has talking WAY more punishment than a cement truck.

Fact is Spider-Man is no way, in any shape or form is getingt the majority over the Jaded Giant. Hulk 9.5/10. Spidey gets half win due to the obvious fluke

#12 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Wat. Spidey can beat Hawkeye, Cap,Widow, and Spiderwoman but Tony would probably beat him. He isn't coming remotely close to beating Hulk or Thor. Spidey is a street level character

#13 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Wat. Spidey can beat Hawkeye, Cap,Widow, and Spiderwoman but Tony would probably beat him. He isn't coming remotely close to beating Hulk or Thor. Spidey is a street level character

No, I think spidey is to strong, and can dodge attacks to easily for iron man, remember, he can dodge bullets, even at point blank range. He gets close to beating Hulk, because he is MUCH smarter than him, and Thor probbly has him, though spider-man is much faster than thor, fighting-wise.

#14 Posted by Hawkguy (570 posts) - - Show Bio

What people said, minus the guy who said Thor, no way Spidey could take the God of Thunder. Not Hulk either, or Hyperion, or Captain Universe, or Wolverine (he's part of them yeah?). This is all assuming we're talking about Hickman's current run.

As for Iron Man, I think SpOck could take him without much trouble. Peter... hmm it would be tougher for him, too close to call I think.

#15 Posted by danhimself (21916 posts) - - Show Bio

@hawkguy said:

What people said, minus the guy who said Thor, no way Spidey could take the God of Thunder. Not Hulk either, or Hyperion, or Captain Universe, or Wolverine (he's part of them yeah?). This is all assuming we're talking about Hickman's current run.

As for Iron Man, I think SpOck could take him without much trouble. Peter... hmm it would be tougher for him, too close to call I think.

why no to Wolverine? and Peter has beat Iron Man before...it was with the Other powers but still counts

#16 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio
@hawkguy said:

What people said, minus the guy who said Thor, no way Spidey could take the God of Thunder. Not Hulk either, or Hyperion, or Captain Universe, or Wolverine (he's part of them yeah?). This is all assuming we're talking about Hickman's current run.

As for Iron Man, I think SpOck could take him without much trouble. Peter... hmm it would be tougher for him, too close to call I think.

You must underestamate that spider-man posseses, yes i do indeed think he could take iron man, easily(peter), and he could outsmart hulk.

#17 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@peppeyhare said:
@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Wat. Spidey can beat Hawkeye, Cap,Widow, and Spiderwoman but Tony would probably beat him. He isn't coming remotely close to beating Hulk or Thor. Spidey is a street level character

No, I think spidey is to strong, and can dodge attacks to easily for iron man, remember, he can dodge bullets, even at point blank range. He gets close to beating Hulk, because he is MUCH smarter than him, and Thor probbly has him, though spider-man is much faster than thor, fighting-wise.

History says otherwise. There is about 15 to 20 encounters between the 2 and about 99% of them Spidey was in over his head. If you like I can show you some scans of how useless Spidey was against Hulk. Spidey doesn't have the answer to Hulk's strength, durability, stamina and healing factor

#18 Posted by batmannflash (6117 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkeye, easily. He would also beat Cap and Iron Man. I don't think he would beat Hulk or Thor though.

#19 Posted by Bokkie (78 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on if Slott want's him to win against any of them.. :D

#20 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898 said:

@peppeyhare said:
@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Wat. Spidey can beat Hawkeye, Cap,Widow, and Spiderwoman but Tony would probably beat him. He isn't coming remotely close to beating Hulk or Thor. Spidey is a street level character

No, I think spidey is to strong, and can dodge attacks to easily for iron man, remember, he can dodge bullets, even at point blank range. He gets close to beating Hulk, because he is MUCH smarter than him, and Thor probbly has him, though spider-man is much faster than thor, fighting-wise.

History says otherwise. There is about 15 to 20 encounters between the 2 and about 99% of them Spidey was in over his head. If you like I can show you some scans of how useless Spidey was against Hulk. Spidey doesn't have the answer to Hulk's strength, durability, stamina and healing factor

Yes, but that's because the writers made it that way, if you look at both of their powers(or suit's powers) Spider-man has the better powers, and SHOIULD be able to take iron man. And i'm not saying that spider-man would be able to take hulk in a haand-to-hand combat fight, but outsmarting him is in the picture.

#21 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: I'm not talking about Ironman. I'm talking about Hulk. You keep saying Spidey can outsmart him. If this was a game of chess or checker that yes, I would agree with you. But this is a fight and once again Spidey doesn't have and answer for Hulk's strength, durability, healing and stamina. I think your love for Spidey is blinding you from this simple fact

#22 Posted by angelalfonso (779 posts) - - Show Bio

If I remember correctly in “what if? back in black” peter did claim that he was stronger and faster than iron man.

He could never beat thor or hulk but he could easily beat hack eye and cap maybe

#23 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898: I'm not talking about Ironman. I'm talking about Hulk. You keep saying Spidey can outsmart him. If this was a game of chess or checker that yes, I would agree with you. But this is a fight and once again Spidey doesn't have and answer for Hulk's strength, durability, healing and stamina. I think your love for Spidey is blinding you from this simple fact

No, how many times does a hero beat a villian, because he is smarter than him, I think spidey could use his wits, to outsmart hulk, and find a way to beat him. This is what Batman does with many of his opponents.

No, i'm not saying that idf spider-man went in to an all out brawl, he could beat hulk.

#24 Edited by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: Hulk isn't a Villain who is destine to lose. And you are completely ignore the history of the two. Every time these two get in to a confrontation 99% of the time Spidey is outclassed. He has repeatedly admitted he stands no chance against him. What can he do that the combine intelligence of Reed Richard, Tony Stark and Black Panther can't do against the Hulk? Do I need to post scans to show you Spidey stands no chance against him?

Look, this is Hulk...The Incredible HULK!!! You know the guy that can tank Johnny Storm all out Novablast. The guy that can tank a NUCLEAR BLAST and walk away unscathed. The guy who can walk through acid and lava as easy as you can walk through a kiddy pool. Yes, that Hulk

The only smart thing Peter can do is stay out of Hulks way

#25 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898: Hulk isn't a Villain who is destine to lose. And you are completely ignore the history of the two. Every time these two get in to a confrontation 99% of the time Spidey is outclassed. He has repeatedly admitted he stands no chance against him. What can he do that the combine intelligence of Reed Richard, Tony Stark and Black Panther can't do against the Hulk? Do I need to post scans to show you Spidey stands no chance against him?

Look, this is Hulk...The Incredible HULK!!! You know the guy that can tank Johnny Storm all out Novablast. The guy that can tank a NUCLEAR BLAST and walk away unscathed. The guy who can walk through acid and lava as easy as you can walk through a kiddy pool. Yes, that Hulk

The only smart thing Peter can do is stay out of Hulks way

Yes, I agree, Hulk is very awesome, and I'm not saying Spidey would beat him, I'm saying, spider-man would find some way to get out of the way, and dodge his attaks, as we know he can do very easily, and delay him long enough to get away.

Remember, Spidey isn't "some villian that is going to be killed easily", he probably is the hardest hero to kill, because he is so evasive.

#26 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898: Hulk isn't a Villain who is destine to lose. And you are completely ignore the history of the two. Every time these two get in to a confrontation 99% of the time Spidey is outclassed. He has repeatedly admitted he stands no chance against him. What can he do that the combine intelligence of Reed Richard, Tony Stark and Black Panther can't do against the Hulk? Do I need to post scans to show you Spidey stands no chance against him?

Look, this is Hulk...The Incredible HULK!!! You know the guy that can tank Johnny Storm all out Novablast. The guy that can tank a NUCLEAR BLAST and walk away unscathed. The guy who can walk through acid and lava as easy as you can walk through a kiddy pool. Yes, that Hulk

The only smart thing Peter can do is stay out of Hulks way

Yes, I agree, Hulk is very awesome, and I'm not saying Spidey would beat him, I'm saying, spider-man would find some way to get out of the way, and dodge his attaks, as we know he can do very easily, and delay him long enough to get away.

Remember, Spidey isn't "some villian that is going to be killed easily", he probably is the hardest hero to kill, because he is so evasive.

Dude I get that you like Spidey but he is not going to beat the Hulk is any situation. Spidey is the top street level character in the MU but he can't compete with some guys. Also he isn't the hardest hero to kill lol. Deadpool,Wolverine,Hulk,etc would be a lot harder

#27 Edited by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: I see you are changing views now. First you were saying Spidey would find a way to win against Hulk and now you are saying Spidey won't beat him and will find a way to get away

I'm glad you are finally seeing the light and realized Spidey can't win;)

#28 Edited by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898: I see you are changing views now. First you were saying Spidey would find a way to win against Hulk and now you are saying Spidey won't beat him and will find a way to get away

I'm glad you are finally seeing the light and realized Spidey can't win;)

Buuuuuttt he did in the comics, once, he dropped a cement truck on him (or was it on a cartoon) I forgot.

#29 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@visemoon said:

@nick31898: I see you are changing views now. First you were saying Spidey would find a way to win against Hulk and now you are saying Spidey won't beat him and will find a way to get away

I'm glad you are finally seeing the light and realized Spidey can't win;)

Buuuuuttt he did in the comics, once, he dropped a cement truck on him (or was it on a cartoon) I forgot.

Yes, and you also forgot that we already discussed that...post number 11.

#30 Posted by Noteworthington (139 posts) - - Show Bio

Saw it mentioned in passing, but to get specific, Spidey's not beating Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel =)

#31 Posted by Jonez120 (2268 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcjr said:

There are so many powerhouses on the current avengers team, he cant beat Hulk, Hyperion, Thor, Captain Universe. He can beat Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, Spiderwoman, Manifold. On a good day he can beat Iron Man, but Iron Man can also beat him.

Ms Marvel?

#32 Edited by kriminal (590 posts) - - Show Bio

cap would beat spidey 6 out of 10. iron man wins 6 out of 10. hulk 8 out of 10. thor 9 out of 10. hawkeyey spidey wins 7 out of 10.

cap and him fight briefly in amazing 534. cap was kinda kicking his ass until he pull out that iron spider suit leg thing. iron man beats him in iron man 14. both were during civil war

#33 Posted by Visemoon (333 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal:

Crap is not beating Spidey for the majority

#34 Edited by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

cap would beat spidey 6 out of 10. iron man wins 6 out of 10. hulk 8 out of 10. thor 9 out of 10. hawkeyey spidey wins 7 out of 10.

cap and him fight briefly in amazing 534. cap was kinda kicking his ass until he pull out that iron spider suit leg thing. iron man beats him in iron man 14. both were during civil war

HAHAHA! Captain AMerica can beat spider-man? Yeah right, what's he ganna do? THrow his sheild at him? You do realize that spider-man can lift a little more than 10 tons, and cap can lift about 1100 lbs. Spider-man is also faster, and more agile than cap. His spidey sense will let him know when danger is coming. (A.K.A. Cap's shield)

Spider-man has dodged bullets at point blank range, i'm pretty sure, he can bet cap.

#35 Posted by kriminal (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: captain America is a tactical genius. very under rated abilities. he will be one step ahead of spidey. cap is also more of a survivor than spidey. its not like he is batman where is just human. spider-man loses to punisher in punisher war zone 1, so its not like he over powers everybody

#36 Edited by Zijuun (854 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmannflash said:

Hawkeye, easily. He would also beat Cap and Iron Man. I don't think he would beat Hulk or Thor though.

@visemoon said:
@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Big Spiderman fan here, but what make you think the Amazing One can beat Hulk and Thor for the majority?

Yeah, I think that Thor would beat Spiderman, but spider-man MAY be able to outsmart Hulk, you know he did drop a cement truck on him once.

Spider-man can beat Ironman and easily? Very funny.

I'm sure he might put up a good fight due to spider sence and everything, but for the majority he gets mauled.

Ironman has handled much bigger threats without preparation, he could take down Spiderman as well.

As for the thread, Spider-man should be able to beat Hawkeye and Captain America. He might put up a good fight against Ironman or Hulk, but he loses to them and Thor.

Z i j u u n

#37 Edited by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: captain America is a tactical genius. very under rated abilities. he will be one step ahead of spidey. cap is also more of a survivor than spidey. its not like he is batman where is just human. spider-man loses to punisher in punisher war zone 1, so its not like he over powers everybody

Spider-man is just to powerful for Cap. Cap couldn't do anything against spider-man's webs. Also, spider-man could dodge every attack thrown at him by cap, because of his spidey-sense.

#38 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: captain America is a tactical genius. very under rated abilities. he will be one step ahead of spidey. cap is also more of a survivor than spidey. its not like he is batman where is just human. spider-man loses to punisher in punisher war zone 1, so its not like he over powers everybody

Also, how is cap one step ahead of spider-man? It is actually the vise-versa. Spider-man will know when cap is going to attack him, so he can dodge.

#39 Posted by w0nd (2063 posts) - - Show Bio

@zijuun: It's not very funny...you showed one scan of him beating spider-man. There are scans of Spider-man effectively taking the fight out of ironman as well. Admittedly one was a what if, but these were both before he started using his actual brain making weapons and such. He is no where near stark in that area but if he put up a good fight without that stuff, that extra stuff would help. Not to mention that one time stark actually underestimated how smart peter actually was and overode his lockdown mode on his iron spidey suit. I know for a fact he is scared of thor, which is smart, instead of even bothering to fight ragnarok he just threw iron fist at him, funny moment

#40 Posted by heroesgold (598 posts) - - Show Bio

@w0nd said:

@zijuun: It's not very funny...you showed one scan of him beating spider-man. There are scans of Spider-man effectively taking the fight out of ironman as well. Admittedly one was a what if, but these were both before he started using his actual brain making weapons and such. He is no where near stark in that area but if he put up a good fight without that stuff, that extra stuff would help. Not to mention that one time stark actually underestimated how smart peter actually was and overode his lockdown mode on his iron spidey suit. I know for a fact he is scared of thor, which is smart, instead of even bothering to fight ragnarok he just threw iron fist at him, funny moment

What if's don't count at all. Seeing as there non canon. Though I do agree, Spider-man could beat Ironman if he put his mind to it and possibly wore the end of earth suit. Though recent Ironman would stomp Spider-man to oblivion.

#41 Posted by kriminal (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: captain America is a tactical genius. very under rated abilities. he will be one step ahead of spidey. cap is also more of a survivor than spidey. its not like he is batman where is just human. spider-man loses to punisher in punisher war zone 1, so its not like he over powers everybody

Also, how is cap one step ahead of spider-man? It is actually the vise-versa. Spider-man will know when cap is going to attack him, so he can dodge.

cap has watched how spider man fights and can predict his every move. like I said this is what he does in amazing 534, he throws his shield so spider-man thinks he has an advantage by dodging it but that's what cap wants him to do. if they had never met spidey would win 8 to 10 times out of 10. but honestly you can find somewhere spidey beats cap. it depends on the writing but ill take cap over spider-man one on one

#42 Posted by acer51 (2101 posts) - - Show Bio

@kcjr said:

There are so many powerhouses on the current avengers team, he cant beat Hulk, Hyperion, Thor, Captain Universe. He can beat Captain America, Ms. Marvel, Hawkeye, Spiderwoman, Manifold. On a good day he can beat Iron Man, but Iron Man can also beat him.

This.

#43 Posted by acer51 (2101 posts) - - Show Bio

@zijuun said:

@batmannflash said:

Hawkeye, easily. He would also beat Cap and Iron Man. I don't think he would beat Hulk or Thor though.

@nick31898 said:
@visemoon said:
@hawkblade9 said:

Spiderman can beat hulk (barely) Ironman, hawkeye, captain america, black widow, thor barely too, and spiderwoman

Big Spiderman fan here, but what make you think the Amazing One can beat Hulk and Thor for the majority?

Yeah, I think that Thor would beat Spiderman, but spider-man MAY be able to outsmart Hulk, you know he did drop a cement truck on him once.

Spider-man can beat Ironman and easily? Very funny.

I'm sure he might put up a good fight due to spider sence and everything, but for the majority he gets mauled.

Ironman has handled much bigger threats without preparation, he could take down Spiderman as well.

As for the thread, Spider-man should be able to beat Hawkeye and Captain America. He might put up a good fight against Ironman or Hulk, but he loses to them and Thor.

Z i j u u n

You say Potato.

I say Potato.

#44 Edited by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898 said:

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: captain America is a tactical genius. very under rated abilities. he will be one step ahead of spidey. cap is also more of a survivor than spidey. its not like he is batman where is just human. spider-man loses to punisher in punisher war zone 1, so its not like he over powers everybody

Also, how is cap one step ahead of spider-man? It is actually the vise-versa. Spider-man will know when cap is going to attack him, so he can dodge.

cap has watched how spider man fights and can predict his every move. like I said this is what he does in amazing 534, he throws his shield so spider-man thinks he has an advantage by dodging it but that's what cap wants him to do. if they had never met spidey would win 8 to 10 times out of 10. but honestly you can find somewhere spidey beats cap. it depends on the writing but ill take cap over spider-man one on one

Spidey wins, 10 out of 10.

#45 Edited by kriminal (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: dude you are being unreasonable how can spidey lose to punisher but cap cant get him once?

#46 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: dude you are being unreasonable how can spidey lose to punisher but cap cant get him once?

Because, it was the comics. ll heroes lose at least once. We are taking their stats, and putting them up against the other, not what happened in the comics.

#47 Posted by kriminal (590 posts) - - Show Bio

@nick31898: i guess. i dont know whats the point if what happens in comics isnt taken into consideration

#48 Posted by NICK31898 (1958 posts) - - Show Bio

@kriminal said:

@nick31898: i guess. i dont know whats the point if what happens in comics isnt taken into consideration

Well the thing is, what happens in the comics, isn't always because the hero could beat someone. What happens is what the writer wants to happen. If you look, spider-man outclasses cap on every level.

#50 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol at saying Cap beats spidey 10 out of 10 times. If you're going to make a thread like this try to at least be reasonable. Name of the thread is "Which Avengers could Spider-man beat and lose?" and every time somebody names a character he'd lose to you come up with a reason as to why he wins no matter what.

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