Where Would Marvel Be Without Stan Lee?

#1 Posted by TheTimShow (78 posts) - - Show Bio

Where would Marvel be today without Stan Lee? Would they still be Timely comics? Would they even be in business? Would a "Spider-Man" character still come eventually? With the lack of serious competition, would DC's quality have gone down? What do you think? What would have happened if Lee chose NOT to go into the comics business, or even quit before the creation of his first title: Fantastic Four?

#2 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

...... Don't have an idea

#3 Posted by moywar700 (2775 posts) - - Show Bio

Dead.

#4 Posted by Duke_Nasty (1017 posts) - - Show Bio

DC would make Spider-man and he would be invincible and he would web sling through space along planets and have heat vision.

#5 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

we wouldnt have a lot of awesome characters, teams etc.

#6 Posted by Deadcool (6811 posts) - - Show Bio

We would probably have different characters in both DC and Marvel, Jack Kirby would have created nost of the characters in the same way and Steve Ditko would have stayed almost anonymous (even more than he is right now).

I don't think that Watchmen and a lot of things would have been created, we would have a whole new universe of comics.

#7 Posted by Strider92 (16613 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duke_Nasty said:

DC would make Spider-man and he would be invincible and he would web sling through space along planets and have heat vision.

probably this lol

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#8 Posted by Teerack (6625 posts) - - Show Bio

Super hero comic books wouldn't have caught on for a much longer time, so everything we know would of been completely different.

#9 Posted by Night Thrasher (3696 posts) - - Show Bio

Comics might be dead as we know it. No Marvel, probably no DC, definitely no Image. Comics would probably be movie licensed products to promote the newest blockbusters.

#10 Posted by CannotSpellMyName (92 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duke_Nasty said:

DC would make Spider-man and he would be invincible and he would web sling through space along planets and have heat vision.

This.

#11 Posted by oraclefyre (936 posts) - - Show Bio

They probably would have a Clockman......

#12 Posted by TheAntiReVamp (389 posts) - - Show Bio

I'v seen it happen before,Poor universe 789905,Dc comics shut down and and they didn't even get to have the "I'm the Goddamn Batman" Meme.

#13 Posted by Illuminatus (9509 posts) - - Show Bio

...the hell? There's a Bizarro-ReVamp now?

#14 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6885 posts) - - Show Bio

Partially non-existent...most of everything we know of as Marvel nowadays was due to Jack Kirby's creation, not Stan Lee.

#15 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Illuminatus said:

...the hell? There's a Bizarro-ReVamp now?

Kind of late to the party mon ami.

And its impossible to imagine what Marvel would be without Stan Lee, I don't particularly think his actual writing is anything stellar, but in terms of character creation he created the Bulk of Marvel's most popular.

#16 Posted by PaperDemon (611 posts) - - Show Bio

chuck norris would shake his head and Sparta would Sparta kick someone out of rage.

#17 Posted by VenomousDragon (862 posts) - - Show Bio

A better question is were would comics be without stan lee.

#18 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9095 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Marvel would be where it is now without Stan Lee

#19 Posted by TDK_1997 (14902 posts) - - Show Bio

Nowhere.

#20 Posted by Nudeviking (479 posts) - - Show Bio

No "true believers." No "no-prize." No "excelsior!" No "Make Mine Marvel!" No thanks.

You can argue about how many characters he actually created or how good/poor his writing was, but no one can deny the dude was charismatic and helped to foster a real sense of community. If you have back issues go and read the letter/editor pages in 1960s/1970s DC books and 1960s/1970s Marvel books and see the difference that Stan Lee makes.

#21 Posted by mewmdude77 (993 posts) - - Show Bio

Comic books would have died by the 70's or 80's, due to being so boring, and the same. Stan Lee changed the superhero genre, making superheroes relatable, and with emotions. Before, superheroes were paragons of invincibility, and were all goody goody, and they never lost, they always got the girl, and they never had personal tragedy. Stan Lee's heroes, starting with the Fantastic Four changed all that. The Fantastic Four argued with each other, plus the Thing was a monster, while being a hero, which had never happened before. Next was the Hulk, a monster who had to run from the government, but still tried to do good. Then Spider-Man came along. He was the first teenaged superhero. All other teens had only been sidekicks at that point. Spider-Man also lost initial battles, unlike most heroes. I could keep going on forever with how Stan Lee changed things, but I think I've made my point

#22 Posted by DH1986 (22 posts) - - Show Bio

My understanding was that Marvel was essentially ready to close when Lee and Kirby created the Fantastic 4. They saved the company, was Lee the best writer in the world? No, but the man had a huge part in the development of Thor, Spider-Man, Hulk, X-men, and just about every 1960s Marvel hero and villain. He also created a culture that promoted new ideas, and in many ways revived the super hero comic book. I don't think Marvel would be here today without Stan Lee and his band of merry men (Ditko,Kirby, Romita) and a few others. The whole industry would be different.

#23 Posted by nickzambuto (13805 posts) - - Show Bio

Superhero's as a whole wouldn't even be thought of as anything today. Whether you like his actual writing or not, his stories were the base for what we have today.

@mewmdude77 said:

Comic books would have died by the 70's or 80's, due to being so boring, and the same. Stan Lee changed the superhero genre, making superheroes relatable, and with emotions. Before, superheroes were paragons of invincibility, and were all goody goody, and they never lost, they always got the girl, and they never had personal tragedy. Stan Lee's heroes, starting with the Fantastic Four changed all that. The Fantastic Four argued with each other, plus the Thing was a monster, while being a hero, which had never happened before. Next was the Hulk, a monster who had to run from the government, but still tried to do good. Then Spider-Man came along. He was the first teenaged superhero. All other teens had only been sidekicks at that point. Spider-Man also lost initial battles, unlike most heroes. I could keep going on forever with how Stan Lee changed things, but I think I've made my point

This post puts it nicely.

Also, there would be no Comicvine =O

#24 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11745 posts) - - Show Bio

Without Stan Lee, We'd have a lot less cameo appearances in Marvel movies.

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