Ultimate Spider-Man...return?

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#1 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Ultimate Spider-Man ever gonna come back? The way he died was a good ending for him, but is he gonna return?

#2 Posted by mewmdude77 (993 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope not. the Ultimate universe has a better rule with death, usually people who die don't come back.

#3 Posted by Deadcool (6811 posts) - - Show Bio

Alex Alonso said that he wont be back.

#4 Posted by JonSmith (3996 posts) - - Show Bio

Most likely, yes. Sooner or later, and that later might be months, years, or even decades from now, sooner or later, it's likely that someone somewhere will decide to bring Ultimate Spider-Man Peter Parker back. It may be forever, it may be for a few issues. But odds are on it happening, somehow, eventually.

#5 Edited by Lvenger (20028 posts) - - Show Bio

@mewmdude77 said:

I hope not. the Ultimate universe has a better rule with death, usually people who die don't come back.

Though I hate Miles Morales. He's a terrible replacement Spider-Man IMO. But despite this I hope Ultimate Peter Parker stays dead. Aside from Ultimate Thor, I don't think anyone's ever come back from the dead in the Ultimate universe.

#6 Posted by KainScion (2973 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@mewmdude77 said:

I hope not. the Ultimate universe has a better rule with death, usually people who die don't come back.

Though I hate Miles Morales. He's a terrible replacement Spider-Man IMO. But despite this I hope Ultimate Peter Parker stays dead. Aside from Ultimate Thor, I don't think anyone's ever come back from the dead.

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#7 Posted by CrimsonCake (2677 posts) - - Show Bio

I want him to come back but I can't imagine any writer bringing him back.Unless they run out of ideas.

#8 Posted by SandMan_ (4528 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. Death sticks in the Ultimate Universe.

#9 Posted by sesquipedalophobe (4733 posts) - - Show Bio

He won't come back. Bottled fan tears for sale.

#10 Posted by OutlawRenegade (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@mewmdude77 said:

I hope not. the Ultimate universe has a better rule with death, usually people who die don't come back.

Exactly. And I like Miles being Spider-Man. If Peter were around and/or Miles had a different identity then I feel like Miles's journey would have less weight.

#11 Edited by Strider92 (16500 posts) - - Show Bio

No he won't come back and they messed up a golden opportunity to make fresh completely different take on Spider-man when they created Miles.

They should have kept Mile's base idea. Made him like 24-29 years old and given him a different outlook. Like maybe a criminal turning over a new leaf. All they gave us with Miles was Peter Parker 2.0. Why kill off a perfectly good character to replace him with a 13 year old with limited story potential? they should have actually taken a risk and broken the mold instead they've given us what we've already seen (a kid with Spider-powers who wants to help people).

Not to mention forcing Miles on us so soon after Peter's death felt wrong to me. They could have given the universe time to grieve and see the repercussions of a world without Spider-man instead of instantly forcing a new guy on us. At least if Miles was older they could have given him a love interest or at least made the stories plausible.

Call me when Miles has his 18th Birthday and i'll give him another shot until then Ult Spider-man is dead to me!

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#12 Posted by Madame_Mist (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

Hope not. Miles is really growing on me.

#13 Posted by acer51 (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

#14 Posted by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51: Totally...

I really hope he comes back, cause i want to start reading Ultimate again...!

Bendis really dissapointed me on the animated series....its time to get back to ol' good comic P.Parker

Im really starting to miss the dork!!
#15 Posted by Vulcan1459 (11 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Ultimate Spider-man was starting to get bad towards the end, I started losing interest around the time Mark Bagley left

#16 Posted by fojtikbt (94 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope he doesn't return because I really like Miles Morales. Miles is a fresh new take on Spider-Man, and if Peter returned I would be worried about what would happen to Miles.

#17 Posted by Sufferthorn (1738 posts) - - Show Bio

They were pretty thorough killing him.

I could never stand to read anything from the Ultimate Universe after that. Spiderman was everything.

#18 Posted by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sufferthorn: Parker was the reason Ultimate was good......i mean....Parker is the reason Spiderman is a success....dont kill him,its a MISTAKE!

Oh! and,why Bagley left? money?

#19 Posted by unpopularkarama (20 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't like this world I don't have a Peter Parker as Spider-Man. I loved Ultimate Spider-Man! Give me something damn it!

#20 Posted by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@unpopularkarama: Miles is good,but no Pete....We have NO Peter Parker in ANY Spider-Man comic now.....do you perceive on that!?!

#21 Edited by unpopularkarama (20 posts) - - Show Bio

@punyparker I absolutely hate that there is no Peter Parker in current comics. Ultimate Spider-Man was incredible.

#22 Posted by ArturoCalaKayVee (11626 posts) - - Show Bio

@unpopularkarama: Miles is good,but no Pete....We have NO Peter Parker in ANY Spider-Man comic now.....do you perceive on that!?!

Lol thats so true. Marvel has officially eliminated Peter Parker...boooooo.

#23 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: How many times must I tell you I simply love your spidey-centered ideas?

#24 Posted by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: How many times must I tell you I simply love your spidey-centered ideas?

Yeah,the dude has it....

@ninjablade09 And to all of you!

Read Ultimate X-Men #34-38....

Writer:Bendis....the BEST Logan-Peter dialog i ever read!!!...it's hilarious and good written,AWESOME!!!

#25 Posted by Farkam (4891 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

#26 Edited by young_beamer (127 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't think he'll come back maybe in sometype of plot they clone him and make him evil, possibly even a reoccurring villain (we've seen this) but him as spider-man again no!

also i'm not against miles as spider-man ( or kaine or oc for that matter) i just don't like their being no peter parkers running around marvel comics anymore. at this point if you say peter parker is spider-man you'd be incorrect (that's stupid).

i hope this superior thing doesn't last too long, i need more pete

#27 Posted by Bezza (3644 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah bring back Pete, how can you not have Peter Parker when all these new Peter Parker Spiderman movies are being made?!

#28 Posted by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio
#29 Posted by w0nd (3433 posts) - - Show Bio

@bezza: because it's an alternate universe where peter isn't spider-man anymore. IF they started the story off like that then people wouldn't complain, but they read about peter and got use to peter, but if you didn't read about peter it would be like reading idk spider-man 2099 where it was just another universe version.

If peter ever came back some villain would kill all his friends, simple as that. He was unmasked, and we all know how great being unmasked for spider-man was before

#30 Posted by acer51 (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

#31 Posted by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

@unpopularkarama: Miles is good,but no Pete....We have NO Peter Parker in ANY Spider-Man comic now.....do you perceive on that!?!

With the whole more day thing t is for the best.

#32 Edited by PunyParker (11089 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

@punyparker said:

@unpopularkarama: Miles is good,but no Pete....We have NO Peter Parker in ANY Spider-Man comic now.....do you perceive on that!?!

With the whole more day thing t is for the best.

How is that?!

#33 Edited by redhood21 (815 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

wouldnt say he's a shame, but he's no pete i agree there...and the whole politically correct thing is getting over the top in Marvel and DC. Classic Nick Fury will always be the best. FURY MAX is a war hardened bad @$& and Samuel L Fury is just a former real life bad mutha jedi who now has man tits no matter how thick that turtle neck is.

#34 Edited by Dernman (15112 posts) - - Show Bio

Miles should have been the Ultimate Scarlet Spider or at least made more effort in being different.

Either way I want Peter back somewhere.

#35 Edited by Baron_BJ (120 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the way Ultimate Peter Parker died was the perfect bookend to one of my favorite series of all time, I hold it up as my standard for character deaths, and I hope he stays dead.

That having been said, a few earlier posters have said that it's very rare for characters to return from being dead in the Ultimate Universe, which isn't true, I can think of multiple characters off the top of my head, though a fair few can be put down to writer incompetence.

  • Magneto (he's returned in the new X-Men series, he's yet to make a move, nor has his return been explained).
  • Beast (It was retconned in #81 of Ultimate X-Men that his earlier death was a sham, though this explanation actually makes no sense, and this was pointless anyway since he subsequently died in Ultimatum).
  • Doctor Doom (He inexplicably returned from the Zombie Universe where he'd been considered dead for years, though this was certainly due to Loeb being an idiot and not doing ANY research before writing Ultimatum).
  • Juggernaut (was considered dead, then inexplicably returned in the Ultimatum X-Men tie-ins, though I'd blame this on the writer for the last handful of issues being painfully bad).
  • Gwen Stacey (I'd think you Ultimate Spider-Man fans would know this better than any other).
  • Thor

That's just off the top of my head and I know there's a few more, don't get me wrong, I want death to mean something in the Ultimate Universe, I don't want it to become all but meaningless like in the main 616 universe, but we can't act as though there haven't been some cop-outs in the past.

#36 Edited by tupiaz (2185 posts) - - Show Bio

@tupiaz said:

@punyparker said:

@unpopularkarama: Miles is good,but no Pete....We have NO Peter Parker in ANY Spider-Man comic now.....do you perceive on that!?!

With the whole more day thing t is for the best.

How is that?!

Because PP died that day. Lost his soul anyway,

#37 Posted by Farkam (4891 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

I can't really say I disagree with you but I don't have any emotions towards the character. As far as my reading goes the character seems pretty dull. However I have a have problems with your post:

How is a Black man marrying a White woman politically correct?

What does ethnicity and religion have to do with anything?

#38 Posted by acer51 (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

I can't really say I disagree with you but I don't have any emotions towards the character. As far as my reading goes the character seems pretty dull. However I have a have problems with your post:

How is a Black man marrying a White woman politically correct?

What does ethnicity and religion have to do with anything?

If you don't know then I can't explain it to you.

#39 Posted by Farkam (4891 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

I can't really say I disagree with you but I don't have any emotions towards the character. As far as my reading goes the character seems pretty dull. However I have a have problems with your post:

How is a Black man marrying a White woman politically correct?

What does ethnicity and religion have to do with anything?

If you don't know then I can't explain it to you.

I'm sorry but that's not how it works. If you can't back up or explain your position and points then don't post them.

#40 Posted by RedLantern23 (884 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously, having a minority superhero or having an interracial marriage isn't politcal correctness.

#41 Posted by skydoescomicvine456 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not Trying to be racist or anything..But I Kinda don't like Black Spider-man's......That's why I want Ultimate Peter back. plus they even killed him in 616.And Everything's the same Miles got bitten by a Spider Just like peter

#42 Posted by BlackWind (6375 posts) - - Show Bio

@redlantern23: According to some people it is. Seriously, if he has a problem with Luke and Jessica, then every mixed race/species relationship should be a problem.

#43 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

No he won't come back and they messed up a golden opportunity to make fresh completely different take on Spider-man when they created Miles.

They should have kept Mile's base idea. Made him like 24-29 years old and given him a different outlook. Like maybe a criminal turning over a new leaf. All they gave us with Miles was Peter Parker 2.0. Why kill off a perfectly good character to replace him with a 13 year old with limited story potential? they should have actually taken a risk and broken the mold instead they've given us what we've already seen (a kid with Spider-powers who wants to help people).

Not to mention forcing Miles on us so soon after Peter's death felt wrong to me. They could have given the universe time to grieve and see the repercussions of a world without Spider-man instead of instantly forcing a new guy on us. At least if Miles was older they could have given him a love interest or at least made the stories plausible.

Call me when Miles has his 18th Birthday and i'll give him another shot until then Ult Spider-man is dead to me!

Who says you can't give 13 year old love interests?

Hell I had sex with the guy I'd marry down the line at thirteen.

#44 Edited by Strider92 (16500 posts) - - Show Bio

Who says you can't give 13 year old love interests?

Hell I had sex with the guy I'd marry down the line at thirteen.

The law in most countries?

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#45 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@guardian_of_gravity said:

Who says you can't give 13 year old love interests?

Hell I had sex with the guy I'd marry down the line at thirteen.

The law in most countries?

Child characters having crushes and romances is a thing everywhere.

You don't have to have them have sex.

#46 Posted by Strider92 (16500 posts) - - Show Bio

@guardian_of_gravity: And that i'm fine with.

Still doesn't change my opinion that having a character that young hinders story potential far more than it helps.

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#47 Posted by JasonHawke (1365 posts) - - Show Bio

I like how blacks are always the center of discussion when it comes to "It's not racist, I just dont like black-version of Spiderman" and "It's racist because he's -just- a black-version of Spiderman but younger"

Here's a reason to keep Miles as Ultimate Spiderman. Now drop it! We have more important things to argue about!

#48 Edited by Eric10956 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

I think there is no chance that ultimate pete Parker is coming back considering the upcoming cataclysm event which I think is going to destroy the ultimate universe, and it would be kind of cool if miles morales came to the mainstream 616 universe

#49 Posted by joshmightbe (24885 posts) - - Show Bio

@acer51 said:

@farkam said:

@acer51 said:

I REALLY hope Spiderman dosn't come back.

I also want Miles Morals to die so he'll stop being a shame to his legacy.

How is Miles a shame?

I'll tell you why...

He has the exact same origin story, He was bitten by

a Spider after coincidentally being at Peter Parker's

funeral where Gwen told him why Peter did what he did.

The Spider was coincidentally from Norman Osborn's labs...

and he's one of the youngest superheroes to be

introduced, he als recently lost one of his parents and will

likely feel the guilt of it forever.

What's different about him exactly then?

He's not a nerd.....he just has an obese nerdy friend

He is black/african american/latino/whatever

He is a politically correct copy....and the only way to make him even more politically correct would be to make him gay....and let's hope to god that this doesn't happen.

I do not like political correctness for the sake of political correctness.

Luke Cage is an African American who married a white woman. Do I have a problem with this? No, Is it politically correct? Yeah, but who cares? The writing was good and it wasn't forced.

There are plenty of different superheroes of several different ethnicity and religion, we didn't need Miles Morales, and I certainly don't accept him as a valid replacement for Peter Parker.

Not that i'm against replacing a white superhero with a black superhero(just look at Nick Fury).....they're not replacing him(Nick) because they want more black people, they're replacing him because Samuel Jackson Fury is cooler......even though I will miss White Nick Fury a whole lot. :(

I have no problem with Nick Fury being black in the Ultimate U, movies or cartoons, my problem is Nick Fury Jr. See the problem is Jr doesn't feel like a real character, he's the only one where you don't feel like he legitimately earned his place. The Furys in all the other media give you a clear idea that these are men who worked their asses off to get where they are but Jr just feels like pure movie fan pandering and to top it off instead of truly earning the rank it feels like he was just handed it purely based on who his white daddy was which ends up making him seem like the most inadvertently racist character Marvel has ever come up with. Sorry for side tracking the thread.

#50 Edited by theTimeStreamer (2841 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@mewmdude77 said:

I hope not. the Ultimate universe has a better rule with death, usually people who die don't come back.

Though I hate Miles Morales. He's a terrible replacement Spider-Man IMO. But despite this I hope Ultimate Peter Parker stays dead. Aside from Ultimate Thor, I don't think anyone's ever come back from the dead.

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