STAN LEE reacts to SPIDER-MAN being bi-sexual

#1 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

lol

#2 Posted by SheenLantern (6489 posts) - - Show Bio

You can't blame him for having old-fashioned views, he is 90 after all.

#3 Edited by Akindoodle (1016 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh he's so awesome

#4 Posted by thespideyguy (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man is bi?

#5 Posted by BloodTalon (431 posts) - - Show Bio

When did Spider man become bie?

#6 Posted by guttridgeb (4831 posts) - - Show Bio

@bloodtalon: @thespideyguy: I think I heard something about Andrew Garfield suggesting it and making MJ a guy. Might be wrong though.

#7 Edited by Strider92 (16296 posts) - - Show Bio

@bloodtalon: @thespideyguy: Andrew Garfield suggested making Spider-man bi in the movie. It never happened.

I don't have any problem with Spider-man being Bi I have a problem with Peter Parker being Bi. Its never been hinted at in canon and isn't a part of his character. If we have another guy under the mask who is bi or gay then fine as its a part of said characters lore.

I woudn't want to see Peter Parker Bi anymore than I would like to see Midnighter or Batwoman go straight. It just cheapens the whole thing.

Haven't watched the vid yet i'll check it out when I get back.

#8 Edited by thespideyguy (2642 posts) - - Show Bio

@guttridgeb said:

@bloodtalon: @thespideyguy: I think I heard something about Andrew Garfield suggesting it and making MJ a guy. Might be wrong though.

Why would they do that? It wouldn't sell as well.

#9 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33084 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds a bit bigoted there Stan

#10 Edited by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

What do you expect from someone old enough to have bought the first Captain America and Superman comics?

#11 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: Stan Lee helped create Spiderman and him not liking Spiderman being Bi is perfectly acceptable. Peter Parker has never... never been said to be bi and would make no sense for his character.

#13 Posted by Perethorn (3348 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man is too much of a ladies man to be Bi. Stan reaction is perfectly understandable.

#14 Posted by i_like_swords (14019 posts) - - Show Bio

It'd be the same if they wanted Spider-Man to suddenly start killing his villains, or not be called
"Spider-Man" anymore. It's messing with the character, and it makes no sense whatsoever.

#15 Edited by BloodTalon (431 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: @guttridgeb: thank you both for answering my question.

and I agree with Strider92's hole post.

#16 Posted by cattlebattle (12703 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the actor that said he was going to be bi was just kidding. People just have an overwhelming need to take everything seriously these days.

#17 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33084 posts) - - Show Bio

@vercingetorixthegreat: so you think it's ok for him to be that offended by a bi Peter that he would make phone calls so that it would never happen? You think that's acceptable? You think he did the same thing when they decided yo have a black Spider-Man?

@cybrilious4: you realise he dates the girl who plays Gwen in real life?

#18 Posted by BR_Havoc (1286 posts) - - Show Bio

@vercingetorixthegreat: so you think it's ok for him to be that offended by a bit Peter that he would make phone calls so that it would never happen? You think that's acceptable? You think he did the same thing when undecided yo have a black Spider-Man?

@cybrilious4: you realise he dates the girl who plays Gwen in real life?

Well I think his reaction is out of more dumbfounded shock then anything. I think when he said he would make a few phone calls he is reacting to them changing his long standing character from straight to newly found bisexual for no real reason other than the actor wanted to think what if. So before anyone says I am homophobic because I agree with Stan, I feel that companies need to stop changing long standing character's sexuality to attempt to help a cause to me that is pandering and that helps no one. You cannot have a character and define everything about him by whom he or she sleeps with and they do this when they just switch a character.

Also Stan Lee created Black Panther so I doubt very much he is racist and most of the X-men came from the civil rights movement.

#19 Posted by warlock360 (28050 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: there's a black spider woman or something, so yea.

Back to the topic, That's like creating a character you wanted to be the guy next door x girl next door, only to find out by another story teller he's actually gay (or bi for that matter).

#21 Posted by Cybrilious4 (1766 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Edited by Markies (89 posts) - - Show Bio

@guardian_of_gravity: age is no excuse. Plenty of old folks actually have no issue with it compared to younger people.

But i don't see Peter as having any feelings towards men. He's never shown it before.

#24 Posted by BR_Havoc (1286 posts) - - Show Bio

@cybrilious4: Perhaps it could be considered mute. I know things like that happen a relative married his husband and he had a daughter from a previous marriage but he said he always knew he was gay just did not want to admit it. It's sad but maybe that is why there are certain cases like this society puts an element of shame towards being gay.

With that said it still does not help the general public if you take a character that has been around for 50 years and say well he or she is gay. You then put an emphasis on the character's sexuality and what does that teach people? Sexuality is important and you should judge off of it? something that is wrong to do, That was more or less my point

#25 Posted by russellmania77 (15034 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah everybody attack him cuz he doesn't want the character HE made to be bi sexual.

#26 Posted by LimpoyzLoan (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see why you some of you are attacking him. He created the character. If he doesn't want his character to be represented as bisexual, there's no reason why he shouldn't complain about it. I'm sick of characters' sexualities being changed for the sake of appealing to the gay community. I'm not homophobic or anything, but... Alan Scott?? And now Peter Parker? It doesn't need to be made.

#27 Posted by Pyrogram (36703 posts) - - Show Bio

He created the character. He has the right to say what the F he likes about the character.

#28 Posted by HolySerpent (12519 posts) - - Show Bio

@vercingetorixthegreat: so you think it's ok for him to be that offended by a bi Peter that he would make phone calls so that it would never happen? You think that's acceptable? You think he did the same thing when they decided yo have a black Spider-Man?

@cybrilious4: you realise he dates the girl who plays Gwen in real life?

I do.

#29 Edited by InnerVenom123 (29499 posts) - - Show Bio

Firstly, Garfield was joking.

“To speak to the idea of me and Michael B. Jordan getting together, it was tongue in cheek,”said The Amazing Spider-Man 2 actor. “Absolutely tongue in cheek. It would be illogical for me in the third movie to be like, ‘You know what? I’m kind of attracted to guys.’ That’s just not going to work. It’s clear. It was just more a philosophical question.”

However, Garfield then reaffirmed his, and Spidey’s, support for the LGBT community:

“What I believe about Spider-Man is that he does stand for everybody: black, white, Chinese, Malaysian, gay, straight, lesbian, bisexual, transgender. He will put himself in harm’s way for anyone. He is color blind. He’s blind to sexual orientation and that is what he has always represented to me.”

Secondly, I'm pretty sure Stan Lee's not a homophobe, and was joking. Because... y'know. X-men. Or the fact that he explicitly made a gay superhero once. Or just... pretty much the entirety of Marvel's philosophy on how anyone can be a hero and stuff.

But who knows. Maybe I'm just the one person in this thread who isn't taking sh*t seriously enough, as opposed to the other way around.

#30 Posted by kasino (1785 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't like that their is another Spiderman..just make another character and bring him/her up through the ranks

#31 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio

@markies: I'll admit Lee is very forward thinking for a man of his time but I wouldn't be surprised if he had some prejudices.

That being said, people screwing with his character is bound to rustle his jimmies. Understandably so.

#32 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (33084 posts) - - Show Bio

He says "one sex is enough for anybody" its pretty clear what his stance on bi people is

#33 Posted by Guardian_of_Gravity (2979 posts) - - Show Bio
#34 Posted by Billy Batson (57969 posts) - - Show Bio

With his voice and everyone laughing it's hard to take it seriously in any way.

BB

#35 Posted by VercingetorixTheGreat (2823 posts) - - Show Bio

@br_havoc said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

@vercingetorixthegreat: so you think it's ok for him to be that offended by a bit Peter that he would make phone calls so that it would never happen? You think that's acceptable? You think he did the same thing when undecided yo have a black Spider-Man?

@cybrilious4: you realise he dates the girl who plays Gwen in real life?

Well I think his reaction is out of more dumbfounded shock then anything. I think when he said he would make a few phone calls he is reacting to them changing his long standing character from straight to newly found bisexual for no real reason other than the actor wanted to think what if. So before anyone says I am homophobic because I agree with Stan, I feel that companies need to stop changing long standing character's sexuality to attempt to help a cause to me that is pandering and that helps no one. You cannot have a character and define everything about him by whom he or she sleeps with and they do this when they just switch a character.

Also Stan Lee created Black Panther so I doubt very much he is racist and most of the X-men came from the civil rights movement.

what he said haha

#36 Posted by Bogey (946 posts) - - Show Bio

He says "one sex is enough for anybody" its pretty clear what his stance on bi people is

He doesn't swing.

#37 Posted by SheenLantern (6489 posts) - - Show Bio

@cybrilious4 said:

@sheenlantern: Look who's talking....

Oh yes, because I swear like a sailor and make references to sex acts all the time, don't I?

#38 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6120 posts) - - Show Bio

Good Job Stan I agree 100%

#39 Posted by Fallschirmjager (16860 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't mind if we started see more comic book heroes who were bi, or gay. Comic books are suppose to have reflective elements of society's problems. Its not 1940's anymore so obviously we can't have all our heroes fighting Nazi's?

I say why not make a hero that is bi or gay or whatever. I don't know that Spiderman is necessarily the first one to do it on screen with, but its still a great idea.

Besides, unless they literally had the sexuality defining the character's persona or even superpowers I hardly see how it matters who they date when they're not saving people. Some people should grow up, its 2013 for crying out loud.

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#40 Posted by tupiaz (2180 posts) - - Show Bio

With his voice and everyone laughing it's hard to take it seriously in any way.

BB

This.

Also Stan Lee doesn't real cares about what goes on in the comics he doesn't read them or anything he is more focused on the movies and making a face there.

#41 Posted by God_Spawn (37740 posts) - - Show Bio

@cybrilious4: The language, man. You were on your final warning as is. Sorry.

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#42 Posted by Darling_Luna (4048 posts) - - Show Bio

Well since it didn't happen, I don't see the big deal. Stan is allowed to voice his opinion though. I personally couldn't care less either way.

#43 Posted by PowerHerc (83401 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see why you some of you are attacking him. He created the character. If he doesn't want his character to be represented as bisexual, there's no reason why he shouldn't complain about it. I'm sick of characters' sexualities being changed for the sake of appealing to the gay community. I'm not homophobic or anything, but... Alan Scott?? And now Peter Parker? It doesn't need to be made.

I agree.

#45 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (24167 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern said:

You can't blame him for having old-fashioned views, he is 90 after all.

You mean the right views. ;)

Don't even start it....

#46 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by cosmo111687 (1489 posts) - - Show Bio

He may have the right to do what he wishes with the character he created, but that doesn't justify his views.

That being said, I'm more offended by the audience, who were clapping and cheering at Stan's jokes, than Stan himself. Stan may have intended his comments to be taken lightly, but the audience affirmed the implication that bisexuality is unacceptable through their applause. And they don't have age as an excuse.

#50 Posted by Cezar_TheScribe (2614 posts) - - Show Bio

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