Spider-Man and Ms. Marvel-Should it happen?

#1 Posted by Nice_Mister_Manderson (176 posts) - - Show Bio

*Opinions here*

#2 Posted by azza04 (1503 posts) - - Show Bio

I want to say yes because I'm a big Spidey fan....but I just don't think they would gell together well. Spider-Man's more of a joker and laid back, while Ms. Marvel's more of serious personality. Spider-Man <3 Black Cat FTW

#3 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - - Show Bio
@azza04: Well.....It was recently revealed that Carol has a crush on peter(Thanks to mister Venom symbiote going through Carol's mind :P).
I think Peter needs a super woman as a girlfriend.His current girlfriend knows nothing about his secret identity,and we all know how that ends.But Carol would know about Peter's hectic schedule and wouldn't mind,unlike normal women.Also,Carol and Spider-Woman were talking about how they haven't dated anyone in forever lol.
 
I like Black Cat,but she needs to find some place besides Spider-Man to go.She needs to evolve into her own character,not just some rarely appearing Spidey ally.
#4 Posted by azza04 (1503 posts) - - Show Bio

@MarvelJackAss433: I would be happy with a Peter and Carol romance, but I would want to see them appear more together in one of the Avengers titles. Would be good to see them go through some tough missions or adventures side by side to watch their friendship and admiration for each other grow.

I think you're right about the Black Cat, it's sort of a knee jerk reaction to choose her as spideys partner but they have teased and gone there to many times now it's sort of gotten stale.

#5 Posted by fACEmelter88 (609 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be a great idea, problem is his current gf. If miss Cooper was not in the picture I could see a flirtatious friendship evolve into a budding romance. Pete is always worried about his lady friends and his enemies going after them but Ms.Marvel can take care of herself and she could probably beat the crap out of him.Where they're "relationship" is now I would love to see them smooch in a heat of the moment situation or if one thinks the other might die or something. It would also be pretty cool to see their costumed relationship play out against their civilian relation; would they fight crime together, would they even get along out of costume and would Peter handle dating someone more powerful than him.

#6 Posted by UltraHeroix (155 posts) - - Show Bio

i think it would be cool. He would finally have a relationship where his partner could take care of herself and is even more powerful than him who would save his butt on occasion. it would be worth seeing.

#7 Posted by Shadow_Thief (2509 posts) - - Show Bio
@MarvelJackAss433: I agree with you about Black Cat; I think her little moment of self-realization when she was talking down a drunken, belligerent Rhino is going to turn out to be a huge turning point for the character.
#8 Posted by MarvelJackAss433 (12238 posts) - - Show Bio
@fACEmelter88 said:
It would be a great idea, problem is his current gf. If miss Cooper was not in the picture I could see a flirtatious friendship evolve into a budding romance. Pete is always worried about his lady friends and his enemies going after them but Ms.Marvel can take care of herself and she could probably beat the crap out of him.Where they're "relationship" is now I would love to see them smooch in a heat of the moment situation or if one thinks the other might die or something. It would also be pretty cool to see their costumed relationship play out against their civilian relation; would they fight crime together, would they even get along out of costume and would Peter handle dating someone more powerful than him.
I have no idea why they would bring this random woman into Peter's life....I mean Miss Cooper is just another Mary Jane >.<.
 
I think she should dump Peter due to him disappearing because of his Hero work.During that time,Carol should jump on the chance.As I said before,she already revealed she has a crush on Peter,and she said she wishes she could date more.
#9 Posted by labarith (670 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm up for anything that gets Carol some exposure... 
 
But isn't she robbing a (very old) cradle here?

#10 Posted by Kiddevil (7488 posts) - - Show Bio

i think it would be cool

#11 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (12915 posts) - - Show Bio

id enjoy it. some of the happiest couples are extremely different people
#12 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, it WOULD make sense... I like Carlie, and I liked her BETTER when they first introduced her as a character, but....
 
As much as Peter STRUGGLES with worrying about the people in his life being hurt by his enemies, does it not make PERFECT sense to have a girlfriend who is nigh invulnerable???  Who can fly, so being tossed of a bridge by a goblin wouldn't be a problem.  She has super strength and is a warrior so there's no worry that a tosser like Venom (who she totally trashed in Siege) is going to kidnap her...  In fact, you'd think it'd be a major advantage for Spidey to have a girl friend who could seriously trash most of his regular villains...

#13 Posted by labarith (670 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes. 
 
Peter Parker really needs to date within the superhuman community more.  If he and Carol started hanging out more in his normal everyday life, it'd be great on him. 
 
But there is a problem:  Green Arrow + Black Canary.  How'd that work out?  Superheroes dating other super heroes makes a lot of sense, but unless they're team members w/o solo books it just ends up coming across as Storm/Black Panther's marriage has... bullshit. 
 
And Spiderman is his own book; he's a team-player "2nd" in the eyes of fans.  And that's something that, quite frankly, very few team members can say.  I mean Captain America and Ironman still have their own books... but you know them more from their team books.  What has Ironman done in his own series of late? Who gives a crap, that's what. 
 
Anyways, the only way I could see them hooking him and Carol up is if they're going to kill her off.  To show that Parker can't even protect super-powered women, and really screw him up.

#14 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@labarith:   I was going to give a list of super Hero marriages that actually have worked, but I got stuck at  Reed and Susan Richards.....   So, there's ONE....
 
So, maybe Spider and Ms. Marvel could be, 'Heroes with benefits?'
#15 Posted by Nefarious (19658 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be nice. They would make a good couple.

#16 Posted by B'Town (2336 posts) - - Show Bio

No. NO.

I like Spidy and I love Ms. Marvel but together. No. Let's not.

#17 Posted by Shadowsnake89 (413 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love it if this happened. From the books they've been in together their is definitely some good chemistry between them.

#18 Posted by labarith (670 posts) - - Show Bio
@Timandm said:
@labarith:   I was going to give a list of super Hero marriages that actually have worked, but I got stuck at  Reed and Susan Richards.....   So, there's ONE....  So, maybe Spider and Ms. Marvel could be, 'Heroes with benefits?'
Last time Peter had casual sex, there was some pretty big fan backlash. 
 
So I don't see that happening. 
 
I could see a break up in his own book (sensible, non-editorially forced) that, coupled with a halfway decent event (Secret Wars III:  The secreting?), could push the two together in an actiony-way.  The big question is whether they're compatible personally... last time I checked, they're probably not.  She's a full time super heroine, he's... not. 
 
Then again they don't do much with Carol since cancelling her book, so...
#19 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@labarith: It's odd.  When the two first started working together there was sort of a chemistry between them.  Then, it's as if someone else took over the writing.
 
She could have a great effect on him.  Make him realize he needs to think more about things like training and tactics.  Also, it's time for Spider-Man to learn (at least I think) that in the current Marvel World there's hardly a place for the secret identity any more.  I hate that, but it's a brave new world...  In a world where one's genome can be determined with a simple scan, and information spreads at the speed of thought, how much longer can he REALLY keep his identity a secret?  I think the super hero registration thing was wrong, completely unconstitutional, but I don't see how heroes will keep their identities a secret much longer.
 
He, on the other hand, would be good for her in that he'd keep her more 'grounded' and help her remember the little guys.  She's used to fighting the 'big fights' and leaving the clean up for someone else.  I think it'd be interesting....
 
so, what was the big backlash at him having casual sex?
#20 Posted by FadeToBlackBolt (23334 posts) - - Show Bio

YES!

#21 Posted by GundamHeavyarms (701 posts) - - Show Bio
@Timandm: The consensus was that having a relationship that was just casual sex was out of character for him.  Yes Peter does have high morals, but the man isn't a monk.   I would like it if Peter and Carol became an item, she is more interesting than Carlie Cooper, that's for sure. 
#22 Posted by Mr. Dead Pool (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always been a Spidey/She Hulk shipper but I wouldn't mind seeing this happen

#23 Posted by PowerHerc (83251 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope.

She belongs with a real man. Someone on a much higher power-level.

#24 Posted by Duo_forbidden (1161 posts) - - Show Bio

I would love to see that. They don't have to be in a long term relationship, but I would like to see other possible pairings besides MJ, Carlie, and Black Cat.

#25 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9589 posts) - - Show Bio
@FadeToBlackBolt said:

YES!

#26 Posted by blackspider2020 (13 posts) - - Show Bio

desirable, but given the way spiderman's been written it wouldn't last. writers of spiderman seem to agree on on thing, peter should never have anything good in his life for long. Awesome powers (gone in 60 seconds), awesome wife (best divorce ever, trading lawyers for the devil............hmmm) and now they're even reducing his regular power set, i'm just waiting to see which idiot writer is gonna take away everything he's gotten during "big time'.

#27 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@Duo_forbidden said:
I would love to see that. They don't have to be in a long term relationship, but I would like to see other possible pairings besides MJ, Carlie, and Black Cat.
Um... MJ, Carlie, and the Black Cat...   That sounds like a title for a porn... LOL!
#28 Posted by Timandm (3374 posts) - - Show Bio
@blackspider2020 said:
desirable, but given the way spiderman's been written it wouldn't last. writers of spiderman seem to agree on on thing, peter should never have anything good in his life for long. Awesome powers (gone in 60 seconds), awesome wife (best divorce ever, trading lawyers for the devil............hmmm) and now they're even reducing his regular power set, i'm just waiting to see which idiot writer is gonna take away everything he's gotten during "big time'.
WELL said!!!!
 
I think they want to show that he's the guy that never gives up regardless of how bad things are....But, it just seems they just enjoy making him suffer....
#29 Posted by SpidermanWins (3982 posts) - - Show Bio

YES IT SHOULD

#30 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
I think the time for it has passed. They could flirt with each other though.
#31 Posted by zombietag (1493 posts) - - Show Bio

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


#32 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they wouldn't work very well, so yes. That would be interesting.

#33 Posted by darthfury78 (793 posts) - - Show Bio
@Duo_forbidden said:
I would love to see that. They don't have to be in a long term relationship, but I would like to see other possible pairings besides MJ, Carlie, and Black Cat.
Besides Ms. Marvel, let's not forget that Spiderwoman(Jessica Drew) is attracted to Peter Parker/Spiderman as well. My assumption is as follows:
 
On the Spiderman side of the relationship(Friends with benefits) they are:
1. The Blackcat
2. Ms. Marvel
3. Spiderwoman
4. Silver Sable
5. Psylocke
 
On the Peter Parker side of the relationship they are:
1. Mary Jane
2. Betty Brant
3. Liz Allan
4. Veronica Chase
5. Carlie Cooper
 
This would make a perfect balance of Spidey/Peter Parker female relationship.
#34 Edited by darthfury78 (793 posts) - - Show Bio

No response thus far? I have been hearing some rumors that Spider-Woman x Ms. Marvel are in the closet lesbians. What do you guys think of that? I don't understand why Marvel wants to keep Peter Parker as a guy whose down on his luck. That would be keeping him on the same level as Archie for all eternity. I don't think that is what Stan Lee envisioned. The down on his luck Peter Parker ended when he left high school. It seems that Marvel wants to bring him beck where he belongs: In High School as a 15 year old down on his luck kind of guy we can relate to: Not!!!!

#35 Posted by Primebonnick (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

i so want it just because of their personalities imagine a fight with these two and spidey dodging the heavy stuff she trows at him lol. I would love to see it i say go for it hope its well written though, just like his relationship with black cat.

#36 Posted by Strider92 (16249 posts) - - Show Bio

@Primebonnick said:

i so want it just because of their personalities imagine a fight with these two and spidey dodging the heavy stuff she trows at him lol. I would love to see it i say go for it hope its well written though, just like his relationship with black cat.

I agree the comedy potential is pretty limitless lol

#37 Posted by Spydey (401 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know. I don't want them making Pete another hero that sleeps around with all the other heroes. That what makes him different, he doesn't really date his 'co-workers'. Maybe he knows it's bad for business.

#38 Posted by InfamousFish (353 posts) - - Show Bio

If it is a good story then yes, go for it Marvel.

#39 Edited by darthfury78 (793 posts) - - Show Bio

In my opinion, I feel that Carol's mutual friendship with Peter isn't going to go beyond the "Pals" level for obvious reasons. If we all know that the romantic relationship is not going to last, why bother to even go there? While I feel that Carol and Peter will be very close friends, there is Silver Sable, Spider-Woman, and The Black Widow as well. Is he going to have a romantic relationship with each of them: NO! However, could he have a close mutual friendship with them: Yes!

The same applies to The She-Hulk and Psylocke as well.

I think that when you have a close friendship with at least 6 of these heroines, it insures that no one heroine will become a potential love interest for Spider-Man. And they could be used as an alternate crime fighting partner for Spider-Man depending on the story. The goal is to give the writer a choice of what heroines he wants to use in place of the Black Cat if he doesn't want to use her or she's not available. But this list that I created is just the sort of women who would be interested in Spider-Man/Peter Parker as mutual friend.

#40 Posted by ExtraLarge (243 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course they should! Why shouldn't they? It's only a matter of time before he's tied down to Mary Jane again. Do you want him to get married and live the rest of his life knowing he could have had a shot at numerous hot Avenger chicks? That would be a long and miserable life indeed.

#41 Posted by mewmdude77 (993 posts) - - Show Bio

@ExtraLarge said:

Of course they should! Why shouldn't they? It's only a matter of time before he's tied down to Mary Jane again. Do you want him to get married and live the rest of his life knowing he could have had a shot at numerous hot Avenger chicks? That would be a long and miserable life indeed.

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#43 Posted by NEEK_03 (1200 posts) - - Show Bio

@mewmdude77 said:

@ExtraLarge said:

Of course they should! Why shouldn't they? It's only a matter of time before he's tied down to Mary Jane again. Do you want him to get married and live the rest of his life knowing he could have had a shot at numerous hot Avenger chicks? That would be a long and miserable life indeed.

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