Spider-Man and Captain Marvel - Secretly a Perfect Match

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#101 Posted by WaveMotionCannon (5152 posts) - - Show Bio
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:

Spider-Man and Ms Marvel are a perfect pairing. Brian Reed was building the couple, but then Marvel decided that it was a good idea and had to be scrapped.
THIS!!! They would be great together, a superpowered couple dealing with romance, seperate lives outside of work and going to battle with someone you're involved with.
#102 Edited by InfinityAce (110 posts) - - Show Bio

I For one love this couple. None of this really matters now does it? Unless Superior is pete which I doubt pete is dead. No more universes where peter is alive either. (A.K.A ultimate) Hell even if peter is superior he is going out with MJ.

#103 Posted by x_29 (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not for it.

#104 Posted by scarspider (30 posts) - - Show Bio

Totally agree. I was looking forward to that back when it was being planned.. seemed like a new dynamic relationship we could have explored but then Marvel back-stepped. I don't get why they made him single and then don't experiment with what seems to me is a very natural romantic relationship development. We've seen him with human girls, we've seen him with Black Cat (who is in her own sexy category of weird lady), but not a fellow hero. Everything pointed out in this article makes sense. Make it happen already Marvel!

#105 Posted by snootchie_bootchies (131 posts) - - Show Bio

Man, I would totally dig him being with Wonder Woman instead of that flaky Loi-oh, no wait, that was Superman.

#106 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6093 posts) - - Show Bio

@X35 said:

How is Fraction's wife going to be able to remind you that this is a female book with such outdated feminism and severely aching insistence that women make the world spin on its axis, if the female is in anyway involved with a man?

'Fraction's wife' has a name y'know.(Kelly Sue DeConnick)

That's an awfully rude way to refer to her, even if you do have a problem with her work.

I can't say I've noticed "severely aching insistence that women make the world spin on its axis" though. Could you give me an example?

#107 Posted by SC (12698 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah no I think its a horrible idea. Even just the fact that such articles tend to approach the pairing from Spider-Mans perspective first and more throughly cements why for me. Spider-man is too much of a man child, and he's great and awesome as a man child, but yeah. Rarely are pairings between two characters beneficial for both characters and usually fails both, and in theory or on paper lots of characters could have some sort of potential, not a good reason to green light. So yeah, reeks too much of wis fulfilment for me.

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#108 Edited by spidermonkey2099 (614 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they'd work well together, but I think I'd rather see him either get back with MJ or start dating Kitty Pryde (I know they already did that in the ultimate universe, but I think they'd have good chemistry in the 616 universe too). Assuming of course this is Peter Parker we're talking about, as he will eventually be back as Spidey. I don't know who I'd want to see Superior Spidey with (if anyone).

#109 Edited by darthfury78 (761 posts) - - Show Bio

@sc said:

Yeah no I think its a horrible idea. Even just the fact that such articles tend to approach the pairing from Spider-Mans perspective first and more throughly cements why for me. Spider-man is too much of a man child, and he's great and awesome as a man child, but yeah. Rarely are pairings between two characters beneficial for both characters and usually fails both, and in theory or on paper lots of characters could have some sort of potential, not a good reason to green light. So yeah, reeks too much of wis fulfilment for me.

The man-child mantra wouldn't do it for Mary Jane either. I think that their first date could have been better handled if Peter was to talk about his first encounter with Mystique to Carol. The conversation would become a flashback story of Spider-Man vs Mystique. This would not only hold Carol's interest, but the readers as well because Spidey has never encounter Raven before.

But regarding Peter's relationship with Carol, it should include Jessica Drew, Silver Sable, Psylocke, Natasha Romanov, and She-Hulk. All Marvel had to do was mix things up in a manner where people wouldn't care to which super heroine Peter dates as there would be six to choose from. Thus, no one will automatically assume that Spidey will have a serious relationship with all of them.

For the first story arc with Captain Marvel, Kelly Sue should have done a story arc that featured Carol Danvers, Jessica Drew, and Peter Parker working together against a common enemy. It might have been fun to see the intense chemistry between Spider-Woman and Captain Marvel has towards Spidey. That would have been priceless as he would now know that Jessica Drew has feelings for him as well.

#110 Posted by MASTER_OF_SUPRISE (457 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't mind seeing Peter and Carol going out for the short term.

#111 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6093 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a fan of this idea. I don't think their personalities would go together in a relationship sort of way. Plus with Spider-Man being a much better known character, I wouldn't want Carol to be overshadowed and be thought of as "Spider-Mans' Girlfriend", to people not familiar with her.

#112 Posted by soduh2 (865 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a fan of this idea. I don't think their personalities would go together in a relationship sort of way. Plus with Spider-Man being a much better known character, I wouldn't want Carol to be overshadowed and be thought of as "Spider-Mans' Girlfriend", to people not familiar with her.

I don't think that would be the case

#113 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6093 posts) - - Show Bio

@soduh2: Are you sure? I don't mean with comic fans, more the general public.

#114 Edited by darthfury78 (761 posts) - - Show Bio

@v_scarlotte_rose said:

@soduh2: Are you sure? I don't mean with comic fans, more the general public.

I think that no one would care if Peter Parker was in a relationship with a super heroine like Captain Marvel if it is expanded to include other heroines as well like Psylocke, She-Hulk(Human form), Spider-Woman, Black Widow, and Silver Sable. When you have 6 different heroines who are interested in Peter Parker respectively, the subject manner become neutral as it would give a writer a choice as to which heroine they want to write about with Spider-Man. This method would avoid any romantic relationship speculations because the heroines that he dates are shifting depending on the writer. It becomes less about a committed relationship and more of a close friendship. This might be the best option for Spider-Man/Peter Parker. On his civilian side, I think that Jennifer Walters( in her human form) and Peter would do very well on a once a month get together as he does with Betty Brant.

So if a writer knows what they are doing these types of mutual relationships that Peter has with a super heroine could be long term as long as it doesn't become a committed relationship as that is reserved for Mary Jane. The idea of Peter having a relationship with a super heroine is to open the doors to the kinds of adventures that we have not seen. The story need not be a team-up event. But rather they go on a date and talk about encountering a related villain or ally that could be used to tell a flashback story, such as Psylocke vs Carnage; Spider-Woman vs Hobgoblin; Silver Sable vs Lady Deathstrike, and Spider-Man vs Nimrod. Those are some of the types of relationship stories that the general public might be interested in reading about.

#115 Edited by batmannflash (6189 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm... I would like this!

#116 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6093 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthfury78: If it's more of a close friendship, then why consider it a relationship at all? Can't he have adventures with them without dating any of them?

#117 Posted by HumanRocket (7440 posts) - - Show Bio

I rather see Steve and Carol together. Both have been in the military both have been in multiple avengers teams Carol has a deep intamcy (talking about being able to open up and talk and confined in someone) with Steve and hey they both have Captains as titles.

#118 Posted by PeppeyHare (4310 posts) - - Show Bio

If we can't have Spidey and MJ, I'm down for this

#119 Edited by darthfury78 (761 posts) - - Show Bio

@v_scarlotte_rose said:

@darthfury78: If it's more of a close friendship, then why consider it a relationship at all? Can't he have adventures with them without dating any of them?

The close friendship is the cover-up for the relationship. Just not a committed relationship. You can have adventures with them working together. But the personal civilian side would be lost. Thus I thought that the best way to resolve this is during their date, there could be a flashback adventure that would have there heroine fighting on of Spider-Man's enemies without Spidey being involved(aka guest appearance). This is just an example that I am providing. I am sure that a good writer could make the situation better. The idea of Spider-Man dating a heroine is for both sides to get to know the other on a personal level, which is rarely seen during Spider-Man's team-up adventures. And the 6 heroines I have talked about have the potential to play in a reoccurring role in Spider-Man's world for as long as the Black Cat has done since her introduction. Besides, not all Spider-Man writers are a like. For those who don't like the idea of Peter being in a mutual relationship with Carol Danvers, they could choose either one of the other heroines (who does have felling for Spider-Man) in her place. The list I talked about does provide some flexibility as none of the heroines mentioned would be in a serious relationship with Spider-Man(in the Earth-616 sense). If we all know that it won't last, perhaps it is best to keep things neutral.

#120 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6093 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthfury78: The idea of them getting to know each other in civilian form sounds O.K., but I'm not sure if making it like going on dates would be the best way to do it. Just hanging out as friends could probably achieve the same thing.

#121 Edited by darthfury78 (761 posts) - - Show Bio

@v_scarlotte_rose said:

@darthfury78: The idea of them getting to know each other in civilian form sounds O.K., but I'm not sure if making it like going on dates would be the best way to do it. Just hanging out as friends could probably achieve the same thing.

True. Keep it at the friends level would probably be the best approach because for Spidey to have a serious relationship with anyone other than Mary Jane would be very controversial in itself(Aside from Betty Brant). And if the relationship starts, a lot of folks will begin to count down the clock as to when it will end. Besides, a serious relationship between Spider-Man x Heroine can take place outside of the Earth-616 realm, like it had with Nightcrawler x Scarlett Witch, Nocturne's parents from her alternate timeline, or Scott Summers x Jean Grey, Rachel's parents from her alternate timeline. I certainly would love to see the day when the daughter of Spider-Man x Black Widow makes her debut to Earth-616 from her alternate timeline, Galina Tsarfin. That would be the only other Spider-Girl that the general public would accept. And she might overshadow the Earth-616 version, Ayna.

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