So when is Spidey gonna be Marvels top property again

#1 Edited by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

The Avengers and the Xmen surpass him in almost being as iconic in modern society and is Marvel lynchpin franchise popularity wise, when is Spider-Man gonna be back like in the early 2000s era?

As a character, did you know Deadpool and Captain America are more popular in Japan than he is? I just saw this today on a Japanese website.

#2 Posted by Jayc1324 (14168 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman is still their most popular character but I agree he has fallen off slightly as top dog. Probably because his movie didn't bring in a billion dollars like the avengers and iron man 3. But when the avengers trilogy is over (if it stops at three) he will go back on top. Especially if he still has movies coming out at that point.

#3 Edited by MaccyD (5204 posts) - - Show Bio

It goes in stages, depending on what films are popular. For 2000s Spidey was the big thing, then the X-men and now the Avengers. I doubt he'll take it back, something new will take its place.

#4 Posted by jesusdisciple001 (546 posts) - - Show Bio

well when give him an awesome anime

#5 Posted by Xwraith (22740 posts) - - Show Bio

When the movie rights revert to Marvel. And Sony is doing their best to make sure that never happens.

#6 Posted by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

How is this sonys fault?

#7 Posted by pedrada (29 posts) - - Show Bio

I.M.O, when marvel decides to seriously EVOLVE the character, giving him a creative team that writes HIM well, instead of making gimmiks and shock value histories, he may get back in the main stream...

#8 Edited by Black_Claw (3196 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith: well with the recent announcement that there's now going to be a Spiderman universe film every year, I'd say Sony is well on their way to f****** up Spidey again. Only then will the rights go back to Marvel.

#9 Posted by tigerkaya (1334 posts) - - Show Bio

Until the Spider-Man movie rights return to Marvel. Until then he's screwed.

#10 Posted by Starbrander (151 posts) - - Show Bio

@tigerkaya:

The new film looks promising and I enjoyed the first as well. The original trilogy was strong as well except for the last film.

And it's not like Disney making a Spidey film assures a good franchise. Iron Man 2 and 3 were utterly horrible as far as I am concerned. The weakest by far in the MCU.

More importantly, Spiderman needs to be in the "Infinity Gauntlet: Avengers 3".

Might happen I think: http://www.mtv.co.uk/the-amazing-spiderman/news/amazing-spiderman-star-i-want-avengers-crossover

#11 Posted by Squalleon (5220 posts) - - Show Bio

Until the Spider-Man movie rights return to Marvel. Until then he's screwed.

#12 Posted by LyraFay (2536 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah how is it Sony's fault! Spiderman 2 is still one of the best superhero movies around. Its just Marvel often turns to the attention to the characters which the general public agrees with, so right now its the Avengers. But Spiderman is one of the most popular and recognised characters in the world, so its not all bad I guess.

#13 Edited by silent_bomber (2363 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally I'm glad different companies have X-Men and Spider-Man.

Keeps the IPs I want separate, separate. I don't want to see Spider-Man in an Avengers movie, or doing a ton of cameo's with unrelated characters just to cross-pollinate all Marvel's movie franchises.

and Disney can only make so many films a year, by doing it this way we have an entire company focusing on Spider-Man's part of the universe while Marvel handles classic Avengers characters. Some of these Spider-Man spin-offs may end up bad, sure but at least they have the chance to be good, which wouldn't happen if they'd never been made.

Whether a film is good or not has more to do with Directors and Writers than companies anyway IMO.

#14 Edited by cattlebattle (13585 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith said:

When the movie rights revert to Marvel. And Sony is doing their best to make sure that never happens.

I wouldn't say that. When it was time for Marvel/Disney to launch a new animated universe, Spider-Man was their flagship
@lyrafay said:

Yeah how is it Sony's fault! Spiderman 2 is still one of the best superhero movies around. Its just Marvel often turns to the attention to the characters which the general public agrees with, so right now its the Avengers. But Spiderman is one of the most popular and recognised characters in the world, so its not all bad I guess.

Something else that is that when Sony had the right to use Spider-Man in animation they had probably the best Spidey animated show to exist, now that Marvel/Disney has the rights back....they have the made the worst. Their show is overly childish and tries to hard to have inane humor and just comes off as annoying more than anything else.

So yeah, Marvel having dominion over all their characters isn't always the best thing. Art through adversity!!!

#15 Edited by GeekBait (785 posts) - - Show Bio

With Superior ending, Amazing being relaunched, and the new movie coming out, we could quite possibly be seeing Spidey as top dog again.

And @jesusdisciple001, a Spidey anime would be awesome!

#16 Posted by Homifred (30 posts) - - Show Bio

@pedrada: "I.M.O, when marvel decides to seriously EVOLVE the character, giving him a creative team that writes HIM well, instead of making gimmiks and shock value histories, he may get back in the main stream..."

This...this is beautiful.

#17 Posted by PunyParker (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimishim12: Well,you know he still is the most profitable and recognisable Marvel superhero on the planet.....so......the question is undue.

#18 Posted by Jasoninthewoods (141 posts) - - Show Bio

He's still the face of Marvel.

#19 Edited by Jonez120 (5483 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron-man is top dog, but............….….......…

I'm starting to feel like Deadpool is taking over.

No seriously. The common public already knows who he is.

#20 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2276 posts) - - Show Bio

@tigerkaya said:

Until the Spider-Man movie rights return to Marvel. Until then he's screwed.

#21 Posted by GrenadeFlow (1733 posts) - - Show Bio

He's Marvel's highest selling solo character

#22 Posted by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

@grenadeflow:

He should be Marvels highest selling franchise period. Even Deadpool is catching up to him in comic sales for solos.

#23 Posted by Fallschirmjager (19189 posts) - - Show Bio

@grenadeflow:

He should be Marvels highest selling franchise period. Even Deadpool is catching up to him in comic sales for solos.

That's because Peter is dead currently and SSM is a terrible idea.

#24 Edited by Magnetic_Eye (397 posts) - - Show Bio

imo, not until MARVEL STUDIOS acquire the film rights and not until an all new creative team is put onto the "Amazing Spider-Man" book.

#25 Posted by nicksmi56 (153 posts) - - Show Bio
#26 Posted by PunyParker (13054 posts) - - Show Bio

  1. imo, not until MARVEL STUDIOS acquire the film rights
  2. and not until an all new creative team is put onto the "Amazing Spider-Man" book.
  1. He still is the face of Marvel......it just have become him AND Iron Man......but he's still the top dog.The comics sell 5 times better than Iron Man AND the Avengers.
  2. Yes.Spider-Man needs a JMS.
#27 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man IS Marvel that is all.

#28 Posted by goobot (520 posts) - - Show Bio

@xwraith: well with the recent announcement that there's now going to be a Spiderman universe film every year, I'd say Sony is well on their way to f****** up Spidey again. Only then will the rights go back to Marvel.

Every year? I thought it was every other year, do you happen to have a link to said announcement?

#29 Posted by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

@jack_donaghy:

Yes, but is he Marvel's center piece hero, no. That's the Avengers or ironman.

#30 Posted by Jack Donaghy (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@jack_donaghy:

Yes, but is he Marvel's center piece hero, no. That's the Avengers or ironman.

I still see Spider-Man as Marvel's top priority, if they were faced with an ultimatum where they could only keep 1 franchise they'd choose his. Iron Man and the Avengers are more popular in movies atm but I'd imagine Spider-Man still makes Marvel more money overall with his merchandise sales. Iron Man isn't as popular in the comics as he is in the movies because there's no RDJ in the coimcs. Spider-Man doesn't have to rely on a popular actor to be popular.

#31 Edited by fodigg (6147 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man didn't lose any bit of popularity just because Marvel has successfully pushed other properties forward. Spider-Man will always be their top dog. And Sony is doubling down on the new film franchise. They'll be launching Venom and Sinister Six spinoffs. If successful, they could build their own little film empire just from that one character. It probably won't rival Marvel's, but it could certainly take in a respectable following.

#32 Edited by christianrapper (1947 posts) - - Show Bio

The Avengers and the Xmen surpass him in almost being as iconic in modern society and is Marvel lynchpin franchise popularity wise, when is Spider-Man gonna be back like in the early 2000s era?

As a character, did you know Deadpool and Captain America are more popular in Japan than he is? I just saw this today on a Japanese website.

well, do u remember brand new day. marvel did the dumbest thing ever. I said I would never by a spidey comic again.

#33 Posted by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio
@fodigg said:

Spider-Man didn't lose any bit of popularity just because Marvel has successfully pushed other properties forward. Spider-Man will always be their top dog. And Sony is doubling down on the new film franchise. They'll be launching Venom and Sinister Six spinoffs. If successful, they could build their own little film empire just from that one character. It probably won't rival Marvel's, but it could certainly take in a respectable following.

I'm afraid Deadpool will get more of Marvel's love if Spidey doesn't meet the sales of the Avengers/

#34 Edited by Jack Donaghy (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@jimishim12 said:
@fodigg said:

Spider-Man didn't lose any bit of popularity just because Marvel has successfully pushed other properties forward. Spider-Man will always be their top dog. And Sony is doubling down on the new film franchise. They'll be launching Venom and Sinister Six spinoffs. If successful, they could build their own little film empire just from that one character. It probably won't rival Marvel's, but it could certainly take in a respectable following.

I'm afraid Deadpool will get more of Marvel's love if Spidey doesn't meet the sales of the Avengers/

That's never going to happen, Deadpool isn't even in the same ballpark with Spider-Man when it comes to popularity. Forget ballpark they're not even in the same state. Seriously there are probably more Spider-Man fans in any random small town than there are Deadpool fans worldwide. The Avengers may be Marvel's top priority right now but think of what that says about Spider-Man that it takes an entire team to just barely edge him out.

#35 Posted by Jimishim12 (496 posts) - - Show Bio

@jack_donaghy:

You say that because DP hasn't gotten green lit for a movie yet which I am sure will eventually confirm his status amongst common non comic iconic fare for superheroes like batman, spidey and ironman. You also know that other than Batman, DP has more fans than all the Xmen individually and fans in other countries adore him especially in Japan where him and Spidey are more famous than say Any Avengers and Xmen individually. DP could be the next Ironman whom is now just as famous as Spidey thanks to the movies.

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