zero edge says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Back to the topic since I'm discussing this in another thread. I have a few thoughts as to what happened with Peter at the end, though they're still in question. Especially why Harry's back."

Share your thoughts?"

No problem. I'll write them in a few. I'm going to go eat something first.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Back to the topic since I'm discussing this in another thread. I have a few thoughts as to what happened with Peter at the end, though they're still in question. Especially why Harry's back."

Share your thoughts?

Alright, now I'll write my thoughts.

After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts.After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

wow u thought that out

Darkchild says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts. After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

wow u thought that out"

I'm a nerd that loves Spider-Man comics and argues with people for fun. Ofcourse I thought it out. LoL.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Darkchild says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts. After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

wow u thought that out"

I'm a nerd that loves Spider-Man comics and argues with people for fun. Ofcourse I thought it out. LoL."

lol. i knew the first time i read the ending id hear ur rants lol.

Darkchild says:

"lol. i knew the first time i read the ending id hear ur rants lol."

Lol, you pay attention to me.

Copy says:

"Yea, he did. Oh and I believe harry died because the modified goblin formula was poisoning him."

The formula wasn't poisoning him,it was just too strong for his body. It put his heart into overdrive, so a heart attack basically.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Darkchild says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts. After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

wow u thought that out"

I'm a nerd that loves Spider-Man comics and argues with people for fun. Ofcourse I thought it out. LoL."

Yea, he did. Oh and I believe harry died because the modified goblin formula was poisoning him.

Copy says:

"Quote from wiki"The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man

@EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it

Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

wiki can sometimes be bad but some people that actually read comics (me) try to uplaod right info

Quote from wiki

"The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him."

Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

Quote from comicvine

"Harry Osborn collapsed dead, poisoned by the formula of Green Goblin."

kuchiku says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

wiki can sometimes be bad but some people that actually read comics (me) try to uplaod right info "

if u want to upload or input right info take it from the comics not Wiki

Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

We're talking about Wiki. They said the Silver Surfer's power rivaled Galactus before. What the f*ck are they talkin about?

@DC: It is a little bit. LoL.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

We're talking about Wiki. They said the Silver Surfer's power rivaled Galactus before. What the f*ck are they talkin about?

@DC: It is a little bit. LoL."

lol

Copy says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

Quote from comicvine "Harry Osborn collapsed dead, poisoned by the formula of Green Goblin." "

zero edge says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts. After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

Good observation"

Thanks.

Copy says:

"Copy says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

Quote from comicvine "Harry Osborn collapsed dead, poisoned by the formula of Green Goblin." "

"

Quote from Darkchild

"WIKIPEDIA SUCKS!!!"

Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts.After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

Good observation

Darkchild says:

"kuchiku says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

wiki can sometimes be bad but some people that actually read comics (me) try to uplaod right info "

if u want to upload or input right info take it from the comics not Wiki"

i meant i try to correct peoples mistakes on wiki im the good person with info

Darkchild says:

"kuchiku says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

wiki can sometimes be bad but some people that actually read comics (me) try to uplaod right info "

if u want to upload or input right info take it from the comics not Wiki"

i meant i try to correct peoples mistakes on wiki im the good person with info

Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Copy says:

"Darkchild says:

"Copy says:

"Quote from wiki "The Goblin Formula was damaged by the explosion, and while it had increased his strength, it was also lethally poisoning him.""

wiki is the worst site to get info from man @EC: yeah i know its odd i do pay attention aint it"

Quote from comicvine "Harry Osborn collapsed dead, poisoned by the formula of Green Goblin." "

"

Quote from Darkchild "WIKIPEDIA SUCKS!!!""

Maybe it does. But this is a quote from comicvine. If you want me to look at another website I will. I remember my spiderman handbook even said it.

zero edge says:

"I'm pretty sure Harry died from being poisoned by the GG formula. "

Thank you.

I'm pretty sure Harry died from being poisoned by the GG formula.

MJ was karma's way of giving back to peter. The only worse recon i can think of would be if Darth wasn't lukes father, this seriously P!5535 me off.

zero edge says:

""

That doesn't mean it poisoned. I remember them saying it was too much for his body. It was too strong.

Ec, you have the marvel encyclopedia right?

In there it says "Tragically, his body was killed by the deadly concoction"

Copy says:

"Ec, you have the marvel encyclopedia right? In there it says "Tragically, his body was killed by the deadly concoction""

I don't have it. And that still doesn't mean anything. It could've meant he was poisoned, but it could've also meant it was too much for him and put his body overdrive.

Convulsion - Convulsions may occur in such conditions as epilepsy, poisoning, high fever (especially in young children), disturbances of calcium or phosphorus metabolism, alkalosis, diabetes, oxygen insufficiency, and a low blood-sugar content, as well as in local irritation or injury of the brain.

Nothing really indicates a heart attack when he dies.

zero edge says:

"http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/user/4000/7221e5c8ec6b08ef6d3f9ff3ce6eb1d1/1951_400.jpg Convulsion - Convulsions may occur in such conditions as epilepsy, poisoning, high fever (especially in young children), disturbances of calcium or phosphorus metabolism, alkalosis, diabetes, oxygen insufficiency, and a low blood-sugar content, as well as in local irritation or injury of the brain. Nothing really indicates a heart attack when he dies."

The formula could've injured his brain too. I don't want to jump to poisoning all willy nilly. I'll re check that book later on.

I've looked at three websites that said he was poison. Comicvine, wiki, and marvel.com. And one that just says it was a side effect. marveldatabase.com

How about this? This is when he starts showing signs of fatigue.

He looks more poisoned then brain damaged.

Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts.After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

Well let's get back on topic, I could've sworn that I read Quesada talk about retconning the Other and stuff, trying to find it but it's a pain right now.

zero edge says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"Alright, now I'll write my thoughts. After fully reading the book, which I thought was actually pretty good. Mephisto said "everything will that happened will remain the same, except for the marriage." That being said, I think the events of the Other and the other things happened still, even though Peter doesn't remember them for some reason. Since Peter never married Mary Jane, Harry perhaps didn't go completely insane and become the Goblin and end up dying right before Maximum Carnage. Since that never happened, arguably, there never was a second Goblin and if there was, and if it was Harry, perhaps Harry just didn't use that modified Goblin Formula, he didn't have that heart attack(?) that killed him when he saved everybody from the burning building. It's possible that everything did stay the same aside from the Marriage and the "larger" events from the marriage changed like Harry. But other events didn't really depend on the marriage."

Well let's get back on topic, I could've sworn that I read Quesada talk about retconning the Other and stuff, trying to find it but it's a pain right now. "

WHAT!?!?! Are you f*cking kidding me!? Oh c'mon! They need to kill Quesada NOW.

Grabs some guns and explosives

Ready ec?

The Speedster says:

"*Grabs some guns and explosives* Ready ec?"

Gets in tank.

C'mon, let's go.

Darkchild says:

"EC u going to make a post anytime soon bro"

Yeah I am. It's just taking some time to get this one out.

EC u going to make a post anytime soon bro

taking time HA isnt that how u usually do it.

Vincent Volgin says:

"The Speedster says:

"*Grabs some guns and explosives* Ready ec?"

*Gets in tank.* C'mon, let's go. Darkchild says:

"EC u going to make a post anytime soon bro"

Yeah I am. It's just taking some time to get this one out."

Gets in a plane with a nuclear missile

Alright!

Flies off

Vincent Volgin says:

"Darkchild says:

"taking time HA isnt that how u usually do it."

Lol, very funny."

its true i still remember a duel we have yet ot finish

TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl.

Darkchild says:

"taking time HA isnt that how u usually do it."

Lol, very funny.

Eternal Chaos says:

"The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol. @DC: I posted, now read. LoL."

Wait I mean kiara wanted to see g blue and he said he would do it if you and kiara would turn blue too.

The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol.

@DC: I posted, now read. LoL.

The Speedster says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol. @DC: I posted, now read. LoL."

Wait I mean kiara wanted to see g blue and he said he would do it if you and kiara would turn blue too."

I'll do it eventually...

Eternal Chaos says:

"The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol.

@DC: I posted, now read. LoL."

yeah i read it and now look at my post u can either post now or wait for RL

Eternal Chaos says:

"Darkchild says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol. @DC: I posted, now read. LoL."

yeah i read it and now look at my post u can either post now or wait for RL"

I am so going to kick you in the face. LoL."

why. u should have read the previous posts i said some rather funny things.

"Dont touch anything....ok Max dont touch anything you Vincent touch what ever you want, it will save me the trouble of killing you myself."

Darkchild says:

"Eternal Chaos says:

"The Speedster says:

"TURN BLUE EC! Just for moment cause then G will turn blue and kiara always wanted to see blue. So do it for your girl."

How about "No". Lol. @DC: I posted, now read. LoL."

yeah i read it and now look at my post u can either post now or wait for RL"

I am so going to kick you in the face. LoL.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=12688

Question:

"Let’s get back to the ramifications of this story and focus on the larger Marvel U implications. It seems reversing the unmasking causes some major continuity issues, especially events in “Civil War” like the unmasking. Will this be addressed outside “Amazing Spider-Man?”"

Joe Quesada says:

"I don’t know if it’ll be directly addressed, as the methodology behind this is as simple as the methodology behind the Sentry’s origin, if Reed Richards can do it why can’t Mephisto? Everything that happened in “Civil War” happened, the unmasking happened, people just don’t remember whose face was under the mask. Tony Stark also did something like this when he brainwashed the world to forget he was Iron Man. They remember the event, but they can no longer recall who the guy under the mask was. This again was the reason why we went with this Faustian pack story as opposed to shifting way too many continuity blocks. It doesn’t cause all of those past Spider-man stories to be discounted. Almost all of that stuff that happened, happened, except Peter and MJ weren’t married.As I said before, is it perfect? No. But it keeps years of history from being wiped out and collections from being destroyed. Those were the issues we had to weigh. There was one other very simple solution and that would have been to kill off MJ. But I love MJ and what she brings to the book. I think that would have been a mistake. And let me point something out that seems missing in all of this…MJ is still around. "