I got a question. Why does it just have to be one person?
Why cant we have a duel personality? Doc oc and Peter. A constant struggle between two different ways to fighting crime.
Don't see why people are saying hope Peter stays dead. A:he's not resting in heaven or whatever. B: if you want to see a Darkish hero with spider powers fighting spiderman foes go to kaine and venom. I want a wise cracking spider on the streets. Good theory by the way. It'll be hard for marvel to come up with a better one. I think some other people has this lookout as well.
Very interesting theories going, and once again, it shows just how tricky and yet interesting Slott has become in his Spidey runs. In all honesty it just makes me all the more interested to get reading more about this and come to my own conclusions, for the more I read into this the more it reminds me of what happened temporarily with Bruce Banner/Hulk in the ongoing Incredible Hulk series before Indestructible NOW.
Slott said that Miguel will appear in SSM. I think that his appearance relates in a way with Peter's current problems. I could imagine this mind swapping between Peter and Otto is a time distortion or something like that. I believe that Slott would be really interested in doing something so doctorwhoish (time travel to fix the time line), since he has declared in the past he's a Doctor Who fan (Picture with M. Smith on his Tweeter). So, what do we have here? Otto Octavius is in Peter's body pretending he's Spiderman, while Jameson becomes Marvel's Gordon with that stupid Spider - Beacon. In the meanwhile, Miguel finds the TARDIS and ... CABLUI! That was my poor mind.
I like this explanation. It would make the storyline more interesting to me, since Peter would be forced to find a new body for Ock (which could have been Ock's backup plan). My question is where is Doctor Doom in all of this. When I think of body swapping, I think Doom. Would be interesting if Peter had to go to Doom for help, like Hulk did.
I think that this is more like what happened in Quantum Leap. Sam "leaps" into the body of Lee Harvey Oswald just before the assassination of JFK takes place. Sam does his thing and everything goes back to normal. Except...not quite. Oswald managed to hitch a ride with Sam and, over the course of the season, begins to fight and take over Sam's brain.
In the case of Spider-Man, there could still be a little bit of Peter left that could, until the plotline starts waning, be building up enough strength to take on Otto and a big battle royale could ensue inside Spidey's mind. And because comic books are comic books, Peter will win and Otto will be completely vanquished...perhaps with the help of Doctor Strange.
I like G-Man's theory. Pete has been under malevolent influences before, like when he was turned by Norman Osborn into the 6th Green Goblin. It could be a simple back door to restore the status quo without making deals with the devil. Meanwhile, i'm enjoying Superior Spider-Man... i think is the best idea they had in a while and it's less revolting than "The Other" or "One More Day", the combination of both causing me to drop Spidey for quite some time.
How would this work with
at the end of SSM 1?
Anyone else think it's weird Doc Ock would take interest in the living brain? Or even think it's Odd the living brain was in this issue? Maybe Ock will eventually put his mind in a robot... or maybe marvel is going to try and one up their bad ideas by putting Peter in a robot.
Why is everyone forgetting that with Octo-Parker courting Mary Jane - MEPHISTO is going to take notice?
You don't make a deal with the devil and get to eat your cake too.
The Parker ghost at the end of Superior Spider-Man is eluding to the notion that Peter may in fact go to MEPHISTO himself to reclaim his life - and of course save Aunt May - If the deal is broke then there are some SERIOUS Repercussions that will ensue - Greater than Octo-Parker's current handling of the Spider-Man mantle!
And of course this would entail making yet another DEAL with the DEVIL!- nuff' said!
Yeah its a good explanation. with the idea of multiple personality disorder would make for good future stories or maybe they would eventually merge the two concisenesses together to create Peter Octavius Parker which would be blind ambition of a hero to try to do good in the field of science and treat almost everyone like they are beneath him but snaps out of it once in a while to hang out and party.
Marvel did something similar to this a few years ago with the character Onslaught. Onslaught was the body of Charles Xavier with the mentality of Pro-mutant Magneto. It was a big crossover event that lead to the Heroes Reborn story lines. I see a similar thing happening in Superior Spiderman - Peter's consciousness starts as a small spark but gradually takes over his body. Doc Ock sensing that once Peter takes over his body again, his mind will be wiped out. Doc Ock makes a clone of Peter Parker (it has been done before) and puts Ocks consciousness into the clone.
I certainly hope they bring Peter back. I never liked Doctor Octopus as a villian, let alone as the new Spider-Man. If they don't bring him back, then that final scene from the first issue is, in my opinion, a middle finger to the fans. Now, I'm certainly not going to write Dan Slott a death threat, but I can certainly understand the outrage of some fans. Such anger is inevitable when you kill off such a popular character. It only makes things worse when you replace him one of his main villians. Well, I for one want no part of it. I might pick up one or two issues out of curiosity, but I staying away from the Spider-Man comics for now. Until this whole Superior Spider-Man thing runs its course, I'm sticking to the Venom comics.
This is a very good method to bring Peter back, but whats done is done. I said it before and I'll say it again. The Ultimateverse gave Peter a proper heroic death he deserved with his loved ones there and him being viewed as a hero. They even gave him a proper replacement in Miles Morales. The Amazing Spiderman send off was a slap in the face to the 616 character. After everything he's done for the world, he dies inside the body of a villain. He will not get a hero's funeral and will not be missed. You have Doc Ock (or simulated persona of him based on G-man's theory) going around living Peter's life and nobody can tell the difference. He may have Peter's memories but acts nothing like him. I know Kaine is doing his own thing in Texas, but something should happen to make him take over as Superior Spiderman. It's the only way i feel they can salvage this without returning things to normal and going back to their problem of how to make Spiderman more interesting.
He is still Peter. Here is why: the mind is made up of memories, opinions and desires to which we add new ones every day. When doc added his memories to peters he did simply that added them not replaced them. What we now have is a man that looks like Peter Parker but has 2 life times off memories as such his desires and actions are effected by memories Peters and Docs. For example he still wants to fight crime (an action which comes from peters set off memories) but he now does it in a much more violent and uncaring way (an action which comes from Otto). In this way he is no different from any of us. I am one person today holding certain beliefs and desires based on my experiences (memories) but as I form new memories my beliefs and desires change with them. We are constantly re making the mind that inhabits our body by adding new memories that is why the character we all love is still alive he is simply much much different.
I already expressed the idea of the simultaneous imprinting of each of their memories on each other simply making them believe they were each other on a different blog site for Spider-man! My additional reasoning is that you can't swap souls from one body to another through the use of science....My only acceptable plausible possibility to do this would be by an actual brain transplant! It also occurred to me that Ben Reilly really is Peter after all & the testing that Ben & Peter did to determine who was who was flawed or misread.
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