Off My Mind: How 'Peter Parker' Can Return to Being Spider-Man

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#101 Posted by the_laughing_man (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I got a question. Why does it just have to be one person?

Why cant we have a duel personality? Doc oc and Peter. A constant struggle between two different ways to fighting crime.

#102 Posted by InfinityAce (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't see why people are saying hope Peter stays dead. A:he's not resting in heaven or whatever. B: if you want to see a Darkish hero with spider powers fighting spiderman foes go to kaine and venom. I want a wise cracking spider on the streets. Good theory by the way. It'll be hard for marvel to come up with a better one. I think some other people has this lookout as well.

#103 Posted by PassionFlower (963 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Peter as much or more than I do the Spider Man persona so I'm not interested at all.

#104 Posted by COBRAMORPH (1683 posts) - - Show Bio

Probly the thing in fiction that always hurts my brain more than time travel is body swapping. Does Ock in Spidey's body have Peter's memories?

#105 Posted by RedheadedAtrocitus (6836 posts) - - Show Bio

Very interesting theories going, and once again, it shows just how tricky and yet interesting Slott has become in his Spidey runs. In all honesty it just makes me all the more interested to get reading more about this and come to my own conclusions, for the more I read into this the more it reminds me of what happened temporarily with Bruce Banner/Hulk in the ongoing Incredible Hulk series before Indestructible NOW.

#106 Posted by Diamondblade (55 posts) - - Show Bio

MJ can figure out that otto's not her tiger. Dr Strange can help Peter too....

is there a golden octobot with Peter's toughts out there?

#107 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Slott said that Miguel will appear in SSM. I think that his appearance relates in a way with Peter's current problems. I could imagine this mind swapping between Peter and Otto is a time distortion or something like that. I believe that Slott would be really interested in doing something so doctorwhoish (time travel to fix the time line), since he has declared in the past he's a Doctor Who fan (Picture with M. Smith on his Tweeter). So, what do we have here? Otto Octavius is in Peter's body pretending he's Spiderman, while Jameson becomes Marvel's Gordon with that stupid Spider - Beacon. In the meanwhile, Miguel finds the TARDIS and ... CABLUI! That was my poor mind.

#108 Posted by LordRequiem (1323 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a dumb story simply because at some point they will have to revert him back with one of these contrived theories, in which case there is no point having put us through this in the first place.

#109 Posted by friendlyNeighborhoodSpidey (32 posts) - - Show Bio

I like this explanation. It would make the storyline more interesting to me, since Peter would be forced to find a new body for Ock (which could have been Ock's backup plan). My question is where is Doctor Doom in all of this. When I think of body swapping, I think Doom. Would be interesting if Peter had to go to Doom for help, like Hulk did.

#110 Posted by TheMadMonkey (147 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that this is more like what happened in Quantum Leap. Sam "leaps" into the body of Lee Harvey Oswald just before the assassination of JFK takes place. Sam does his thing and everything goes back to normal. Except...not quite. Oswald managed to hitch a ride with Sam and, over the course of the season, begins to fight and take over Sam's brain.

In the case of Spider-Man, there could still be a little bit of Peter left that could, until the plotline starts waning, be building up enough strength to take on Otto and a big battle royale could ensue inside Spidey's mind. And because comic books are comic books, Peter will win and Otto will be completely vanquished...perhaps with the help of Doctor Strange.

#111 Posted by CrimsonAlchemist (409 posts) - - Show Bio

I was thinking Dr.Strange or Brother Voodoo take Peters soul from heaven and put it back in his body something like that.

#112 Posted by CrimsonAlchemist (409 posts) - - Show Bio

@AranhaMarcial: Hey like they say another man's junks is another's treasure.

#113 Posted by heroesgold (604 posts) - - Show Bio

To be honest, after reading issue one I find Otto as Spider-man kind of interesting so I don't want Peter back.

#114 Posted by MexFaletti (12 posts) - - Show Bio

I like G-Man's theory. Pete has been under malevolent influences before, like when he was turned by Norman Osborn into the 6th Green Goblin. It could be a simple back door to restore the status quo without making deals with the devil. Meanwhile, i'm enjoying Superior Spider-Man... i think is the best idea they had in a while and it's less revolting than "The Other" or "One More Day", the combination of both causing me to drop Spidey for quite some time.

#115 Posted by wolfflame21 (3 posts) - - Show Bio

@CaioTrubat: Read issue #1

#116 Posted by FatFriar_16 (167 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_laughing_man said:

I got a question. Why does it just have to be one person?

Why cant we have a duel personality? Doc oc and Peter. A constant struggle between two different ways to fighting crime.

That would be too much like Venom. lol

#117 Posted by FatFriar_16 (167 posts) - - Show Bio
#118 Posted by Mrfuzzynutz (1170 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice theory, but I am still betting the golden octopus still has Peter's brain just waiting to uploaded correctly

#119 Edited by Teerack (7626 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else think it's weird Doc Ock would take interest in the living brain? Or even think it's Odd the living brain was in this issue? Maybe Ock will eventually put his mind in a robot... or maybe marvel is going to try and one up their bad ideas by putting Peter in a robot.

#120 Edited by SpitfireINK (240 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is everyone forgetting that with Octo-Parker courting Mary Jane - MEPHISTO is going to take notice?

You don't make a deal with the devil and get to eat your cake too.

The Parker ghost at the end of Superior Spider-Man is eluding to the notion that Peter may in fact go to MEPHISTO himself to reclaim his life - and of course save Aunt May - If the deal is broke then there are some SERIOUS Repercussions that will ensue - Greater than Octo-Parker's current handling of the Spider-Man mantle!

And of course this would entail making yet another DEAL with the DEVIL!- nuff' said!

#121 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Marvel paid attention to the Spiderman continuity before the OMD. The deal with Mephisto has been violated in many ways, but nothing happened. It seems that Mephisto was bluffing! LOL

#122 Posted by Trodorne (2500 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah its a good explanation. with the idea of multiple personality disorder would make for good future stories or maybe they would eventually merge the two concisenesses together to create Peter Octavius Parker which would be blind ambition of a hero to try to do good in the field of science and treat almost everyone like they are beneath him but snaps out of it once in a while to hang out and party.

#123 Posted by Taylors005 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

i am so glad to learn that i was not alone realizing this door was left open and i really hope they use it. im only reading SSM to see how long it last.

#124 Posted by hugemonkeyman (4 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel did something similar to this a few years ago with the character Onslaught. Onslaught was the body of Charles Xavier with the mentality of Pro-mutant Magneto. It was a big crossover event that lead to the Heroes Reborn story lines. I see a similar thing happening in Superior Spiderman - Peter's consciousness starts as a small spark but gradually takes over his body. Doc Ock sensing that once Peter takes over his body again, his mind will be wiped out. Doc Ock makes a clone of Peter Parker (it has been done before) and puts Ocks consciousness into the clone.

#125 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@hugemonkeyman: You know I was thinking that the new Doctor Octopus (the tentacle version, not SpOck) will have Peter's face, as a clone or something crazier, don't know.

#126 Posted by TheEd (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghost Peter will make a new deal with Mephisto to screw Doc Ock. Problem solved.

I actually liked this changed the moment I heard about it. Peter became a boring and stale character decades ago.

#127 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only person in this world that really liked the Other and the direction Peter was heading?

#128 Edited by IfDCRuledTheWorld (676 posts) - - Show Bio

Reminds me of the Heroes episode where Sylar was stuck in Matt Parkman's brain and took control. Then there was the episode where Sylar became Nathan. Hope it all works out for Peter.

#129 Edited by carcharodon (7 posts) - - Show Bio

I certainly hope they bring Peter back. I never liked Doctor Octopus as a villian, let alone as the new Spider-Man. If they don't bring him back, then that final scene from the first issue is, in my opinion, a middle finger to the fans. Now, I'm certainly not going to write Dan Slott a death threat, but I can certainly understand the outrage of some fans. Such anger is inevitable when you kill off such a popular character. It only makes things worse when you replace him one of his main villians. Well, I for one want no part of it. I might pick up one or two issues out of curiosity, but I staying away from the Spider-Man comics for now. Until this whole Superior Spider-Man thing runs its course, I'm sticking to the Venom comics.

#130 Edited by abeyance (239 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a very good method to bring Peter back, but whats done is done. I said it before and I'll say it again. The Ultimateverse gave Peter a proper heroic death he deserved with his loved ones there and him being viewed as a hero. They even gave him a proper replacement in Miles Morales. The Amazing Spiderman send off was a slap in the face to the 616 character. After everything he's done for the world, he dies inside the body of a villain. He will not get a hero's funeral and will not be missed. You have Doc Ock (or simulated persona of him based on G-man's theory) going around living Peter's life and nobody can tell the difference. He may have Peter's memories but acts nothing like him. I know Kaine is doing his own thing in Texas, but something should happen to make him take over as Superior Spiderman. It's the only way i feel they can salvage this without returning things to normal and going back to their problem of how to make Spiderman more interesting.

#131 Posted by BAUagent (26 posts) - - Show Bio

How to bring Peter Parker back to life, get his soul to meet Death who would totally dig him, this will force Thanos to put Peter soul back into his body and expel Ottos. Cuz he'd have zero chance in competing against someone like Pete.

#132 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

@Smart_Dork_Dude: You know, Slott is a big fan of the Doctor. Perhaps, you've just found the pattern. (Nice episode by the way. They did it, cause for a while that actor whose name I forget was supposed to replace Tennant).

#133 Edited by DreamKing (1 posts) - - Show Bio

He is still Peter. Here is why: the mind is made up of memories, opinions and desires to which we add new ones every day. When doc added his memories to peters he did simply that added them not replaced them. What we now have is a man that looks like Peter Parker but has 2 life times off memories as such his desires and actions are effected by memories Peters and Docs. For example he still wants to fight crime (an action which comes from peters set off memories) but he now does it in a much more violent and uncaring way (an action which comes from Otto). In this way he is no different from any of us. I am one person today holding certain beliefs and desires based on my experiences (memories) but as I form new memories my beliefs and desires change with them. We are constantly re making the mind that inhabits our body by adding new memories that is why the character we all love is still alive he is simply much much different.

#134 Posted by PunyParker (13056 posts) - - Show Bio

#135 Posted by Mikemartin6543 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Nano-bot will transfer Peter's brain patterns to a mannequin, and he will only become Spider-man at night, after the store closes.

#136 Posted by lupham35 (1 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ganthetsward20: Why would you say that?I mean,Peter has been around a LONG time and you don't want him back?!Seriously what's wrong with you!

#137 Posted by consolemaster001 (6319 posts) - - Show Bio

@PunyParker said:

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#138 Posted by Fallen_Crippled (6460 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has received hell about this one. Peter better return.

#139 Posted by swrwizard (1 posts) - - Show Bio

I already expressed the idea of the simultaneous imprinting of each of their memories on each other simply making them believe they were each other on a different blog site for Spider-man! My additional reasoning is that you can't swap souls from one body to another through the use of science....My only acceptable plausible possibility to do this would be by an actual brain transplant! It also occurred to me that Ben Reilly really is Peter after all & the testing that Ben & Peter did to determine who was who was flawed or misread.

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