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i respectfully disagree. I've read far worse comics. I liked One More Day. I know people are mad because they want to see them together but they will again one day, they just have to wait a while. The two will be together eventually, it's inevitable. I think Marvel just did it so they could tell different kinds of stories for a while. Now they can try and put a different spin on Spider-Man

" @shawn87: Well I did not think the writing was bad or even the story just hated the out come "

Ok I'd just like for everyone who claims to like OMD to just imagine if they did that to say Superman and Lois Lane, Say Ma Kent was on the verge of death and the only option to save here was to sell their marriage to Neckron, now imagine what the fan reaction to Superman making that deal would be. 

While I do hate the conclusion of One More Day, I can't say it was worst story arc in comics. I think I'd put it in my top 10 list of worst things in comics. I hate OMIT more than OMD.

Personally I never liked MJ, so OMD didn't really annoy me as much as if does other fans who supported their relationship. Plus I'm a huge fan of Spidey's web-shooters, so those are two things that I actually liked about OMD. The only thing that annoyed me was that Marvel chickened out like they always do, they do this HUGE status que changer with Peter revealing his identity to the public, changing the characters life forever and opening new stories to be explored that we have never seen before.....and then they take it all back with a lame retcon... -__-

" Ok I'd just like for everyone who claims to like OMD to just imagine if they did that to say Superman and Lois Lane, Say Ma Kent was on the verge of death and the only option to save here was to sell their marriage to Neckron, now imagine what the fan reaction to Superman making that deal would be.  "

From what I've seen, OMD has really alienated a lot of Spiderman fans.

One More Brand New Moment in Time... (or whatever) did a really good job of alienating old time Spidey readers who grew up with the Peter/Mary Jane relationship.  As a old time reader my biggest problem was how they ended the relationship.  They made a deal with the Devil.  The Devil actually won.  How is this a good thing?  It was a complete retcon of 20 some years of continuity and they just negated every memory of the Peter/Mary Jane relationship.  If they wanted him single than separation, divorce, kidnapped by aliens, anything other than surrendering to the friggin' Devil.  Heck, Mephisto could'a brought back Uncle Ben or Gwen Stacy while he was at it and that would have just negated "hero" Spider-man all together.  In my opinion it just made no sense.

Yes, I miss it even more now with this lame Carlie running around.

The story's outcome was what was bad. The writing or art was not.  Still, as I have mentioned to someone else on here, I think the events of One More Day were humiliating to say the least.  Like Teddy Roosevelt would say...."Outrageous incompetence!"

" One More Brand New Moment in Time... (or whatever) did a really good job of alienating old time Spidey readers who grew up with the Peter/Mary Jane relationship.  As a old time reader my biggest problem was how they ended the relationship.  They made a deal with the Devil.  The Devil actually won.  How is this a good thing?  It was a complete retcon of 20 some years of continuity and they just negated every memory of the Peter/Mary Jane relationship.  If they wanted him single than separation, divorce, kidnapped by aliens, anything other than surrendering to the friggin' Devil.  Heck, Mephisto could'a brought back Uncle Ben or Gwen Stacy while he was at it and that would have just negated "hero" Spider-man all together.  In my opinion it just made no sense. "

" Ok I'd just like for everyone who claims to like OMD to just imagine if they did that to say Superman and Lois Lane, Say Ma Kent was on the verge of death and the only option to save here was to sell their marriage to Neckron, now imagine what the fan reaction to Superman making that deal would be.  "

" @joshmightbe said:

" Ok I'd just like for everyone who claims to like OMD to just imagine if they did that to say Superman and Lois Lane, Say Ma Kent was on the verge of death and the only option to save here was to sell their marriage to Neckron, now imagine what the fan reaction to Superman making that deal would be.  "

We'll burn JMS and Quesada. And yes, being a fanatic, I speak for the whole Superman fandom.. Nyehehehehe! :D Good thing JMS is not ruining Superman now... Wait... Aww crap.. Grounded! Nyehehehe! Still not as bad as OMD! "

when will people stop talking about this...

" when will people stop talking about this... "

" @zombietag said:

" when will people stop talking about this... "

When it stops being relevant :) Siege was worse than OMD, in terms of actual writing, but OMD/OMIT was worse because of what it represents. "

" when will people stop talking about this... "

" @zombietag said:

" when will people stop talking about this... "

There are people still upset with the whole Hal dieing and Kyle getting the ring, so... probably not for a while.  And since the marriage was negated a great deal of Spider-man's past changed.  MJ wussed out, Harry didn't die and who knows what else will spring up?  Plus what about villains who knew about Peter's identity?  In the past Osborn kidnapped Gwen because he knew Peter's identity, MJ because he knew Peter's identity, Aunt May because he knew Peter's identity, bought the Daily Bugle because he knew Peter's identity, and I forget what else.  Did those things not happen now or does he not know the reason he did these things?  Also they Venom symbiote?  It stalked Peter long before it attacked Spider-man.  Did that not happen or does it just not know why it did those things?  (i gotta get a new soap box, i know.  Kept getting nuked on the Marvel boards every time i brought this stuff up and now i'm just venting) "

I am on the fence on this. This isn't the first time, real life decisions based on the future health of the character has taken precedence over the current stable, and popular status quo. Characters before MJ, were victims of such story telling, and a lot of the arguments that are anti OMD, would be as applicable to those situations many ages ago, and as a result MJ and Spider-man would never have happened anyway! So I find it funny in that sense. 

" @joshmightbe: True but I don't like Superman and, truth be told I always thought there was someone out there better for Peter than Mary Jane.Then again after OMD it's hard to figure out which stories are still canon. "

" @Shadowsnake89: him spliting up with MJ wasn't my big problem here, they could've gotten a divorce and it wouldn't have bothered the problem for me is that he made a deal with Mephisto or atleast agreed to it and when you get down to it both him and Mephisto were out of character, Peter for making the deal and Mephisto for doing it with no hidden agenda, he told them out right that he just wanted to break them up for a BS reason and nothing else, What the hell is that, he's the lord of a Hell dimension ruining a marriage for the sake of making them unhappy he doesn't gain power or influence from it and it doesn't do anything for him aside from momentary self satisfaction. What was he bored? "

The Clone Saga and Maximum Carnage were worse than One More Day. The post One More Day Spider-man has been great, and honestly, kicked the crap out of the marriage stories and JMS's run entirely.

" @FadeToBlackBolt: The only person that was in Character in the whole story was aunt may and she was in a coma "

The Civil War thing was the catalyst for the downfall of Spiderman. I mean, why would Marvel have him reveal his secret identity? The whole point of wearing a mask is to protect his loved ones from reprisals. It just didn't make any sense. One More Day was the final nail in the coffin.

I never cared about OMD, but OMIT was bad, really bad storyline...
But also, always amazes me how fanboys get mad with all this, is really lame to read each comment, I would laugh of any of us... oh well...

Also, One More Day happened 4 years ago, get over it!

" The Civil War thing was the catalyst for the downfall of Spiderman. I mean, why would Marvel have him reveal his secret identity? The whole point of wearing a mask is to protect his loved ones from reprisals. It just didn't make any sense. One More Day was the final nail in the coffin. "

" @jrock85 said:

" The Civil War thing was the catalyst for the downfall of Spiderman. I mean, why would Marvel have him reveal his secret identity? The whole point of wearing a mask is to protect his loved ones from reprisals. It just didn't make any sense. One More Day was the final nail in the coffin. "

Civil War was rife with mis-characterization and PIS, though. 

It was a good concept in theory, it was just executed really really badly. (Civil War, not OMD). 

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" @zombietag said:

" when will people stop talking about this... "

There are people still upset with the whole Hal dieing and Kyle getting the ring, so... probably not for a while.  And since the marriage was negated a great deal of Spider-man's past changed.  MJ wussed out, Harry didn't die and who knows what else will spring up?  Plus what about villains who knew about Peter's identity?  In the past Osborn kidnapped Gwen because he knew Peter's identity, MJ because he knew Peter's identity, Aunt May because he knew Peter's identity, bought the Daily Bugle because he knew Peter's identity, and I forget what else.  Did those things not happen now or does he not know the reason he did these things?  Also they Venom symbiote?  It stalked Peter long before it attacked Spider-man.  Did that not happen or does it just not know why it did those things?  (i gotta get a new soap box, i know.  Kept getting nuked on the Marvel boards every time i brought this stuff up and now i'm just venting) "

Am I the Only one who thinks that at the very least they should explore what advantage Mephisto was trying to gain? He has never once done anything for no reason, and no just being a prick is not enough of a reason

That's not the only time Spidey's made bad deals. There was that time in the early 90's when he agreed to leave Venom alone so Marvel could do a series about him. I'd say that was a pretty poor move. Even worse is when he almost helped the Jackal at the height of the Clone Saga. 

But the horse isn't dead.  Peter and MJ are not together and everybody has forgotten Peter's identity because he made a deal with the devil.  Every issue of Spider-Man from then on is because Peter and MJ made a deal with the devil.  20 yrs. of history is gone.  Trust me, I got those back issues.  I don't dislike "Onemoremomentintime..." because of Marvel splitting up Peter and MJ and them wanting an out for everybody knowing Peter is Spider-Man.  I dislike it cuz it erased 20 years of history and the devil wins, I think it was just poor story telling.  It kinda reminds me of Pre-Crisis DC comics and even some Post-Crisis.  How many times have the history of Kyrpton been retconned?  How many times was the history of Hawkman retconned?  I can get behind revamping a hero.  Batman went from killing villians to camp hero to urban knight and he's awesome.  (crap.  i'm back on my soapbox again.  i gotta jump to a new thread and clear my mind.  where's the thread i can blast the new movie spider-man's costume.  why's he wearing tap shoes?)

when will people stop talking about this...