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    Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider as a teenager, granting him spider-like powers. After the death of his Uncle Ben, Peter learned that "with great power, comes great responsibility." Swearing to always protect the innocent from harm, Peter Parker became Spider-Man.

    Just to clear things up...Amazing Spider-man #666 SPOILERS

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    Edited By danhimself
     
     
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    was right!  In a blog that InnerVenom123 created and has since deleted he came up with the theory that Ben Reilly was inside the tube and  that Kaine was the spider creature who was already mutated.  Some people disagreed and I think even convinced InnerVenom123 that he was wrong.  I new that he was right though and went for confirmation.  Luckily I follow Dan Slott on Twitter so I sent him a quick message.  Here's the quick conversation:  
     

     
      @ DanSlott   In ASM #666 is Kaine the guy in the tank or the guy who the Jackal has already mutated? It's confused some people @ ComicVine
     
    and his response
     
    . @ Dan_Himself Kaine is the Tarantula, the one who's already mutated. Jackal calls him Kaine on the page.  
     
    So there you go nonbelievers.
    So some wiki pages need changed up.
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    #1  Edited By InnerVenom123

    Thank you. :)

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    #2  Edited By Primmaster64
    @danhimself: So Ben might be inside the tank?
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    #3  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Seemed pretty likely from how they spoke and I really hope they bring Ben back. Also I haven't read the issue, but is the woman talking Queen?

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    #4  Edited By DEGRAAF

    now this is interesting. I thought Ben  and disintegrated proving Peter wasnt the clone 
     
    also who is the green fuzzy guy?
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    #5  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @DEGRAAF said:
    now this is interesting. I thought Ben  and disintegrated proving Peter wasnt the clone  also who is the green fuzzy guy?
    Jackal
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    #6  Edited By InnerVenom123

    Worth noting: Ben's death is a giant plot hole (perfect clones do not melt/disintegrate upon death).  
     
    The fact that Spidey never questioned it is baffling. 

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    #7  Edited By DEGRAAF
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    I know this is a dumb question but what constitutes a perfect clone? Also i forgot who made that accusation about clones. 
     
    @War Killer: 
    thanks thats what i was thining but i felt like it was still wrong. 
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    #8  Edited By Primmaster64
    @InnerVenom123 said:
    Worth noting: Ben's death is a giant plot hole (perfect clones do not melt/disintegrate upon death).   The fact that Spidey never questioned it is baffling. 
    RETCON!
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    #9  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @DEGRAAF: I'm not sure on the exact science (LOLSARCASM), but it was said before that Ben was a "perfect clone" and that's why he doesn't break down and die or disintegrate like other imperfect clones. Pretty sure Jackal and others said it.  
     
    @Primmaster64 said:
    @InnerVenom123 said:
    Worth noting: Ben's death is a giant plot hole (perfect clones do not melt/disintegrate upon death).   The fact that Spidey never questioned it is baffling. 
    RETCON!
    Yeah! It was never Ben who died! It was another clone with fake memories! 
     
    Good retcon. I'd be on board with that. 
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    #10  Edited By danhimself
    @Primmaster64:  I asked Mr. Slott if that was Ben in the tank knowing that he wasn't going to tell me who it was and he said "The person in the tank is....a mystery. :-)"
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    #11  Edited By danhimself
    @War Killer said:
    Seemed pretty likely from how they spoke and I really hope they bring Ben back. Also I haven't read the issue, but is the woman talking Queen?
    that's who I guessed in InnerVenom's original blog
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    #12  Edited By Primmaster64
    @InnerVenom123: Yup. Hooray for retcons!!!
     
    @danhimself said:
    @Primmaster64:  I asked Mr. Slott if that was Ben in the tank knowing that he wasn't going to tell me who it was and he said "The person in the tank is....a mystery. :-)"

    I hope its Ben, no one else could be a surprise..unless is Uncle Ben...
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    #13  Edited By danhimself
    @Primmaster64:  I think it would be really cool to have Ben come back and be the Avengers' "Spider-man"....they've been saying that Peter's been stretching himself thin lately and having Ben back would help out a lot...I say bring him back, take the Spider Armor away from Michael and give Ben the Scarlet Spider identity again
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    #14  Edited By DEGRAAF

    Wouldnt this turn Ben in to a villain though? 
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    #15  Edited By danhimself
    @DEGRAAF: he's being mind controlled
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    #16  Edited By InnerVenom123

    It's possible that Anti-Venom could cure him back to normal. Slott's said that Venom and Anti-Venom will play a huge role in the story. 

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    #17  Edited By DEGRAAF
    @danhimself
    no i mean if Jackal succeeds in using his mutation on Ben.
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    #18  Edited By danhimself
    @DEGRAAF:  well some of us are guessing that was Ben in the tank that he mutated...so if that guess is right then he's already succeeded and the mystery lady is mind controlling him
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    #19  Edited By DEGRAAF
    @danhimself
    yea i was guessing it was Ben in the tank but from this picture i wasnt sure if they had just captured him or if they have mutated him already
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    #20  Edited By danhimself
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    #21  Edited By danhimself

    was just thinking that if that is Queen then it would make sense for her to call Ben her Spider-king...she wanted Peter but couldn't have so why not go after Ben

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    #22  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    If that is indeed the Queen, then it also follows suit to her ability to control people with insectoid genes. So Ben being subjected to that treatment (thus amplifying his spider powers) would make him even easier to control.
     
    I don't know, it just seems too obvious at this point. It's the only thing that scares me.
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    #23  Edited By Eyz

    Isn't it Ezekiel though?
    Linking this way both the Clone Sage/Peter clones like Kaine and Ben to the Other saga/Ezekiel/totems/spider society?
    If so, neat!

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    #24  Edited By DEGRAAF
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    thank you i didnt realize the comic continued on i figured that the pictures in the op were the end of the book leaving a cliff hanger
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    #25  Edited By danhimself
    @Eyz said:
    Isn't it Ezekiel though? Linking this way both the Clone Sage/Peter clones like Kaine and Ben to the Other saga/Ezekiel/totems/spider society? If so, neat!
    the identity of the guy in the tank hasn't been verified yet...right now it's all speculation....as much as I don't like your theory since it takes Ben's return out of the picture...I'll admit...it makes sense....especially with Jackal being excited to study him
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    #26  Edited By zombietag

    i hope its not ben, just because i dont want him back as a spider-freak. i want him back as ben, not this mutated thing. 
     
    on the other hand, i definitely trust slotts judgement and if it is ben, im sure hes going to make a great story out of it.

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    #27  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    @zombietag: They could revert him back to his prior state when it's all over. InnerVenom introduced the notion that Anti-Venom could feasibly heal Ben by using his healing touch, which sounds pretty reasonable given the nature of Brock's current powers. 
     
     
     
    It'd be cool if it's Ezekiel, since I really liked the character, but the Spider King (I've seen him dubbed that way) seemed to immediately recognise the Jackal and sought out to attack him and stop him before the Queen (?) contained him. Ezekiel is unlikely to have had such a response. On the other hand, considering that the Jackal had already created Ben Reilly those long years ago, it would also be unlikely for him to be so impressed if it was indeed him inside the tank, even less so since he said he always wanted to study the prime specimen, which is something he could have done without much trouble earlier on, if it was indeed Ben.
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    #28  Edited By Radread

     
     Great point and I think I know who the mysterious woman is. 

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    #29  Edited By CATPANEXE

    Agreed fully.
    So hyped for Spider-Island. That could be the Queen?
    I wonder what the Bride Of Nine Spiders role in this will be?

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    #30  Edited By danhimself
    @CATPANEXE said:
    Agreed fully. So hyped for Spider-Island. That could be the Queen? I wonder what the Bride Of Nine Spiders role in this will be?
    have the said that she'll be in this?
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    #31  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    @danhimself: She has been confirmed to appear in Shang-Chi's mini-series.
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    #32  Edited By CATPANEXE
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    Spider-Island: Deadly Hands Of Kung Fu #2
    Spider-Island: Deadly Hands Of Kung Fu #2
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    #33  Edited By danhimself
    @CATPANEXE: @Morpheus_:   ohhhh I hadn't seen that....so with all of these spider themed people appearing it's almost a solid bet that it's either Ezekiel in the tube or the mystery woman is Queen
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    #34  Edited By Primmaster64

    They are gonna have to retcon Ben's ''Death''.

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    #35  Edited By danhimself
    @Primmaster64 said:
    They are gonna have to retcon Ben's ''Death''.
    yeah but that's fairly easy...as others have pointed out...Ben was a perfect clone so he should never have disintegrated in the first place...so they could just say that his body was switched out before he died
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    #36  Edited By Degalon

    I'm more concerned with what became of Kaine. 
     
    I mean, how lackluster is this?!  First time he shows up in over a decade, and it's just to get horribly disfigured into a generic goon for another villain.

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    #37  Edited By iLLituracy

    How could anyone be confused? He clearly calls the tarantula following him around Kaine when he tells him to fight against the "perfect" one after having mutated him. 
     
    Whether that clone that was transformed is Ben Reilly is what wasn't confirmed.

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    #38  Edited By iLLituracy
    @Degalon said:
    I'm more concerned with what became of Kaine.  I mean, how lackluster is this?!  First time he shows up in over a decade, and it's just to get horribly disfigured into a generic goon for another villain.
    This is far from the first time he's showed up. He appeared in #608 and has been appearing irregularly since. He "died" in Grim Hunt and was revived at the end of the arc as "Tarantula" and had become more spider-like in appearance. 
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    #39  Edited By Degalon
    @iLLituracy:  
     
    My point being, he hasn't really been around until Grim Hunt.  (Only time i remember him showing up since the 90s before that was being mentioned as an "enemy combatant" during civil war). 
     
    And now he's finally back doing something of note, only to be turned into the new Man-Spider as a minion.
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    #40  Edited By cdeoleo

    Seems like the mystery woman is The Queen, especially because "Ben" and Kaine both look just like Peter did when he was changing into a spider creature in that storyline

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    #41  Edited By cdeoleo
    @Degalon: Kaine had a large role in Grim Hunt but I get what you are saying about it sucking that he now a deformed spider monster but that should change by the end of the story.... Hopefully
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    #43  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
    I'll say that's a red herring.
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    #44  Edited By CATPANEXE

    I'm endorsing the possibilities that Carrion is involved, being he is the clone of the Jackal, 
    and with Wacker's comment also the chance Miles precious Gwen clone will be in.

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    #46  Edited By danhimself
    @CATPANEXE said:
    I'm endorsing the possibilities that Carrion is involved, being he is the clone of the Jackal,  and with Wacker's comment also the chance Miles precious Gwen clone will be in.
    I'd like to see that...I'd like to see some of Spidercide to
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    #47  Edited By inkBot

    Jackal seems to remember that Peter is Spider-Man. He states that he's spent "years obsessing over parkers DNA", which hints that his memory of Spider-Mans identity was never wiped. Though if it was wiped I'm sure he could've figured it out anyway, but his dialogue makes it sound like he has known for a long time. From what we've seen of the story so far I don't think it's a quesiton that needs to be answered, but for continuitys sake I'd like to know (maybe it's been adressed already, I'm not sure)
     
    On a side-note: I really dig Casellis art in this one.

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    #48  Edited By fodigg

    So Scarlet Spider welcome back? 

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    #49  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @danhimself said:
    @CATPANEXE said:
    I'm endorsing the possibilities that Carrion is involved, being he is the clone of the Jackal,  and with Wacker's comment also the chance Miles precious Gwen clone will be in.
    I'd like to see that...I'd like to see some of Spidercide to
    It's been confirmed that Spider-cide is coming back. 
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    #50  Edited By danhimself
    @inkBot:  I love Caselli's art on ASM....he's quickly becoming an iconic Spidey artist in my mind 
     
    @InnerVenom123:   really??  where'd you hear that???

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