Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider as a teenager, granting him spider-like powers. After the death of his Uncle Ben, Peter learned that "with great power, comes great responsibility." Swearing to always protect the innocent from harm, Peter Parker became Spider-Man.
@comicdude23: well cap was just your average person when he tried to join the army, he was probably more average than Parker as he's a genius. but then Steve was givin the chance to step up and inspire a whole country to fight for something they believed in.
Define greatest. If you mean by most popular then of course Spider-Man wins. But if you mean who is recognised as Marvel's hero that is most dedicated to justice, what is right and ensuring that good always triumphs over evil then personally I would say that title goes to Captain America
I think how average Spider-Man is isn't funny anymore, either. Now, he doesn't only represent the average Joe, the average New Yorker, the average human being. He also represents the average superhero, what being a hero is about, what all the Marvel heroes in the world represents. He's the very personification of the word, 'hero,' the very foundation of all Marvel heroes.
Most popular hero but I think the greatest still goes to Cap. The whole world was impacted when he died. If Spider-Man were do die sure ppl would be sad but it wouldn't be like Cap.
" Most popular hero but I think the greatest still goes to Cap. The whole world was impacted when he died. If Spider-Man were do die sure ppl would be sad but it wouldn't be like Cap. "
You can only say this because Spider-Man is too popular to ACTUALLY die.
You can only say this because Spider-Man is too popular to ACTUALLY die. "
@PowerHerc said:
No, I don't hate him. I just think he's overrated. He's certainly not Marvel's greatest hero. "
Sheesh. I wonder what these people are doing in the Spider-Man forum. "
1.I never go to any characters specific forum.CV puts all the new threads on the front page of the forums. 2.Why are you lumping someone (me) who is defending Spider-Man with someone who said he's overrated and not Marvel's greatest hero?
" @Vance Astro: I don't know. You just made it sound like Spidey is alive today only because he's profitable. My mistake, I guess. "
That IS why Spidey is alive today.You think Marvel actually cares about characters? If you don't make them any money they will can you...put you in limbo.You know how many characters that were popular in the 90's are almost never seen anymore? Spider-Man is one of Marvel's greatest characters IMO but only because he's their "Superman" will they try everything to keep him around.
@OminousFlare: Since you asked; I was checking in on 'Newest Topics,' I say this thread and decided to weigh in. Does that make sense to you? Someone doesn't have to be specifically on the Spider-Man forum page to see this thread.
Besides, why can't a few people respond with "No, he's not."? What's wrong with a dissenting opinion.
@PowerHerc: Well, whatever the case is, posting that kind of remark in a Spider-Man forum just kinda seems contradicting to me (not to mention annoying). I mean, the page says quite clearly above which forum this thread was posted in, if you bothered to look.
It depends on how you define greatest of course but yes I'd say Spidey is Marvel's top character. I don't think you can limit Captain America as just an american hero though as his ideals speak to everyone.
"@PowerHerc: Well, whatever the case is, posting that kind of remark in a Spider-Man forum just kinda seems contradicting to me (not to mention annoying). I mean, the page says quite clearly above which forum this thread was posted in, if you bothered to look. And I wasn't asking. It was rhetorical. "
Oh, I get it, I should have known by the thread's author (you) and it's placement that this wasn't a legitimate question; it was rhetorical (you've since informed me of this). You actually wanted to start a Spider-man admiration thread. Now it's clear! Perhaps in the future you should state at the top that you are only looking for agreement, not dissent or any diversity of opinion.
Maybe the thread could read: "Spider-Man is obviously the greatest Marvel hero ever! (Please post only comments/opinions that agree with or support this statement.) If you start with that title next time you may get the result you desire. Then again, maybe you won't.
Spider-Man is indeed Marvel's greatest hero. He represents the average problem ridden man. He has money problems, girl problems, some people don't like him even though he does good for them, he is a very responsible person, he defeats enemies much stronger than him like Sandman Doc Ock, etc, He is usually never over powered(one time when he was Cosmic Spider-Man is the exception), he always goes to save people even though it ruins his personal life, need I go on? He is the third most popular super-hero in the world (after Superman and Batman) and the face of Marvel. Cap may represent America as a whole, but Spider-Man represents the common man and really reaches people.
"@PowerHerc: Well, whatever the case is, posting that kind of remark in a Spider-Man forum just kinda seems contradicting to me (not to mention annoying). I mean, the page says quite clearly above which forum this thread was posted in, if you bothered to look. And I wasn't asking. It was rhetorical. "
Oh, I get it, I should have known by the thread's author (you) and it's placement that this wasn't a legitimate question; it was rhetorical (you've since informed me of this). You actually wanted to start a Spider-man admiration thread. Now it's clear! Perhaps in the future you should state at the top that you are only looking for agreement, not dissent or any diversity of opinion.
Maybe the thread could read: "Spider-Man is obviously the greatest Marvel hero ever! (Please post only comments/opinions that agree with or support this statement.) If you start with that title next time you may get the result you desire. Then again, maybe you won't. "
lol! I totally agree with you. If the question is asked, expect some people to be of another opinion... Otherwise what's the point? BTW, I do think that Spider-man is the greatest hero, not just in Marvel but in comics period. I think its because he struggles to choose to do the right thing when it would be easier to simply do nothing. Its not even a choice between doing right and wrong, or good and evil, just action or apathy. Spider-man sends a message that any average person can relate too, if you see something that's wrong and you have the power to do something about it you should.
@playdohsrepublic: You think he's the greatest superhero ever, huh? Even though we don't agree, I can respect your opinion. I apprectiate the fact that these sites/forums are a place to weigh-in with opinions. As long as it's done with decent manners and respect; why not welcome all comments?
Spider-man is the greatest hero morally. Spidey and his "With great power comes great responsibility" is the ideal superhero mold. I think if Spidey was killed by his villains then all heroes would become much much darker, due to lacking that moral compass. On the other hand they may all be made better by his death. Anyway he may not be the most powerful hero and he may not reflect America like Cap. I understand the arguments of Peter being a genius and Cap starting off normal but Batman and related characters started off normal and EARNED their ridiculous physical strength and such by training. Even though Pete's a genius he's almost always had to do things on his own. I'm not arguing with anyone its just my opinion.
" @PowerHerc: lol Decent manners and respect? You are one to talk, hypocrite. I tried explaining to you nicely why I was annoyed by your comment and you just threw me a sarcastic comeback telling me to fuck off. You Americans can shove your 'freedom of expression' up your- "
Kinda bigoted to bunch a people into a group because you dislike one person no?
@TheCrowbar: Actually, no. I've been holding it out for quite a while on Americans, and I've made enemies in quite a few of them. Yes, I'm stereotyping, but with Chuckles there acting in such a manner, it's as Spidey says, "THE KIDS GLOVES ARE OFF!"
" @TheCrowbar: Actually, no. I've been holding it out for quite a while on Americans, and I've made enemies of quite a few of them. Yes, I'm stereotyping, but with Chuckles there acting in such a manner, it's as Spidey says, "THE KIDS GLOVES ARE OFF!" "
I'm not asking why you're being bigoted, Power-Herc is a bit out there at times, I'm asking if you think it is bigoted?
Unless you've met a statistically relevant amount of Americans to make that judgment?
Unless you've met a statistically relevant amount of Americans to make that judgment? "
Quite a numerous amount of them, yes. 20, maybe 30. Sure, I didn't get in an argument with all of them. Many of them are cool, I'll admit.
Sigh. Just forget it. This is stupid.
@InnerVenom123:
Yeah, but Spidey's also a fictional character, and fictional characters can be crafted not to be assholes whenever the writers feel like it. The ultimate decision in real people is up to the person himself.
Unless you've met a statistically relevant amount of Americans to make that judgment? "
Quite a numerous amount of them, yes. 20, maybe 30. Sure, I didn't get in an argument with all of them. Many of them are cool, I'll admit.
Sigh. Just forget it. This is stupid.
@InnerVenom123:
Yeah, but Spidey's also a fictional character, and fictional characters can be crafted not to be assholes whenever the writers feel like it. The ultimate decision in real people is up to the person himself. "
I disagree about being called a hypocrite. Your "explaining nicely" failed to come across as such. I must concede; I may have been a bit sarcastic. Still you seem to have got my point, despite your tender feelings.
Next, it seems you're not a fan of American freedom of expression, yet here you are (on an American website, no less) participating in that exact thing! Apparently you're more than happy to express your views, but (IRONICALLY) you take a dim view of others doing the same. HAH! Talk about being a hypocrite!
You obviously aren't ready for our American freedom of expression just yet because you fail to realize that here, in the U.S., freedom is a two-way street. Good luck in the old world, the third world or wherever you're at. I'll stay here where it's nice and comfy with my "freedom of expression." (Just typing those words warms my heart!)
@TheCrowbar: Yeah, well, I don't know. I always felt fictional characters are nicer than real people. I've always been rather anti-social, but with fictitious characters, I feel like they are the most tolerable, nicest people in the world.
@PowerHerc: And PowerHerc just further emphasized my point. I live in Singapore, by the way, which is one of the most well known trade route in the world. And here, we actually do know what respect is. I'm not the best example. I get tossed around by my friends a lot because I got into arguments with them and threw a bunch of nasty insults.
As for the American website, that's got to be the oldest and lamest excuse I've ever heard. This is the Internet, not America. With the Internet, it's free for all. Everyone could enter your site without some passport or some registration as your fellow people.
But, hulk_beyond is right. This is getting off topic.
" Captain America is a kinda of joke, he got his liberty stuff and ideals but he only needed a Super Serum to get there, Peter needed a death, and a radioactive spider to get to where he was and still his situation was build up by one man and him being a nerd. Much more inspiring. "
Did you just compare a war hero to a teenage nerd and say that the boy is more inspiring?
Both characters are great. No need to put down Cap to build up Spidey.
" @Vance Astro: I don't know. You just made it sound like Spidey is alive today only because he's profitable. My mistake, I guess. "
That IS why Spidey is alive today.You think Marvel actually cares about characters? If you don't make them any money they will can you...put you in limbo.You know how many characters that were popular in the 90's are almost never seen anymore? Spider-Man is one of Marvel's greatest characters IMO but only because he's their "Superman" will they try everything to keep him around. "
i dont think this means that marvel doesn't care about characters at all. yes, marvels a BUSINESS. you cant keep putting out books that dont sell with characters that dont sell. even if their great books. it just doesnt make sense. why keep losing money when the public doesn't want it anyways? they are, first and foremost, a company.
but that doesnt mean they dont care about their characters or stories at all. i think it just means they try to create and forge great stories based on the characters the public, through sales, have displayed interest in. why is that bad? if tons of people are buying spider-man, shouldn't they try to put out more great spider-man stories? same with thor, or cap, or anyone. and if nobody's buying xyz-superhero book, why should they keep trying to make it better and sell more? its not logical. theres a reason a lot of 90s characters fell off the map.
now im not saying they never milk it or that every spider-man story is good. they know things like spin offs of events like Fear Itself are going to sell because of the characters in them whether the book is quality or not, but you can't say they dont care about their characters at all. people are chosen to write books for a reason instead of others. everyone knows Dan Slott is a huge spider-man fan and he loves the character. and i believe it shows through the book. and like any business, maybe sometimes the wrong guy is hired for the job and it doesnt turn out so hot. thats just the way it goes.
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