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So, what do you guys think of both the casting and villain choice?
Spider-Man
Character » Spider-Man appears in 17246 issues.
Peter Parker was bitten by a radioactive spider as a teenager, granting him spider-like powers. After the death of his Uncle Ben, Peter learned that "with great power, comes great responsibility." Swearing to always protect the innocent from harm, Peter Parker became Spider-Man.
And the reboot villain is....
"Why is that?I feel like I don't want to see this movie anymore.
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@brc2000 said:
"As soon as he was announced as a cast member, I think a lot of people figured he's be playing Kurt. Connors. Hell, even before that it looked like he was going to be in it. "
How would you assume Lizard be the choice before any of the casting suggestions? This is inspired by the Ultimate Universe and Lizard was far from one of the first villains Ultimate Parker faced. Now, if you're speaking of the previous franchise, then I agree, due to connors being in the movies. However, this isn't related to those ;)
Heh, I completely understand. I agree, a character such as Rhino (or Scorpion, Shocker, Tombstone, etc) would have to be secondary characters... Pawns part of a bigger plot. However, this gives the potential for the Ultimate Green Goblin down the road, who is very different than the 616 counter-part.
@geraldthesloth:
Lizard with hair = NO! lol Other than that, Shed was great, but I think he'd be too powerful for the film.
@ComicMan24:
I'm at, too. But Norman will certainly be present, since his son, Harry, is in the film.
Honestly, I think the Lizard is a good choice. He can provide a rather simplistic and entertaining plot. This way, it gives other characters (Brock, Harry, Norman, Gwen, MJ) more time for character development. The biggest issue I had about Venom (aside from casting) was how rushed the character was. This way we have more time to care about these characters, so when Brock or Harry turn into a villain, or Gwen dies, we'll care. That's just my opinion, though.
Hopefully its the rhyming Lizard from Secret Wars. Just kidding...(maybe)
I never really gave Lizard enough credit until the Torment storyline.
We had Spidey in the sewers / subway with Sandman in 3... but I think it's pretty clear he's at his best doing aerial combat in NYC's skyline... I wonder how or if they'll work that in unless Lizard is not the exclusive villain.
"@Amegashita:
Honestly, I think the Lizard is a good choice. He can provide a rather simplistic and entertaining plot. This way, it gives other characters (Brock, Harry, Norman, Gwen, MJ) more time for character development. The biggest issue I had about Venom (aside from casting) was how rushed the character was. This way we have more time to care about these characters, so when Brock or Harry turn into a villain, or Gwen dies, we'll care. That's just my opinion, though. "
And I can see what you mean, and I agree with the Venom part, but I'm just not to confindent on the whole Lizard idea. I'm not seeing all that many ideas with the Lizard that could keep my interest, and when I see a villain I prefer the idea that they could appear later on in the series again as a villain.
Not to mention, the last Spider-Man movie didn't do me any favors in optimism.
"@k4tzm4n said:"@Amegashita:And I can see what you mean, and I agree with the Venom part, but I'm just not to confindent on the whole Lizard idea. I'm not seeing all that many ideas with the Lizard that could keep my interest, and when I see a villain I prefer the idea that they could appear later on in the series again as a villain. Not to mention, the last Spider-Man movie didn't do me any favors in optimism. "
Honestly, I think the Lizard is a good choice. He can provide a rather simplistic and entertaining plot. This way, it gives other characters (Brock, Harry, Norman, Gwen, MJ) more time for character development. The biggest issue I had about Venom (aside from casting) was how rushed the character was. This way we have more time to care about these characters, so when Brock or Harry turn into a villain, or Gwen dies, we'll care. That's just my opinion, though. "
I understand, but you can't let the previous movies have any part on your feelings towards the new movies. They're being created by a brand new team (cast/crew/etc). As for the Lizard, I think he's an excellent starting choice. We've already seen the bigger threats (GG, Venom, etc) so the public could use a break from seeing them as the threat right away. As for his plot, I'd imagine it's simplistic. Parker's science teacher doesn't have an arm, he's doing experiments in an attempt to regrow limbs. And, poof, the Lizard runs amuck. Also, I know Harry is in the movie, so Norman likely will too. I've heard rumours that Eddie Brock will also be attending the High School. Plus, I'm sure in the end, Connor will be left alive, so there's future potential for him as well.
I completely agree with that (the villains being too fresh for the public's mind), and I stated that in my post above (which you probably didn't see as you were typing your reply). However, when they do get around to reintroducing those villains, they might take the Ultimate approach, which is different for Venom (origin of the symbiote), Oc (powers), and Green Goblin (COMPLETELY different, lol). In the meantime, Spider-Man has a vast gallery that I believe can be used well in the meantime.
I'll just wait for reviews before I decide officially whether I want to see it or not.
There's no need to, really. Unless of course, he reverts back and remains as Parker's mentor/teacher in class.I'm just not seeing the future potential for him as a villain in the future.
Well, IMHO it's better than rushing one of the more plot driven villains he has. Plus, this way it gives the audience time to connect with other characters (Harry, Brock, Norman) without jumping right into it.I don't like one time villains, it just feels like a way to get a plot going, but not to keep it contiuing.
Yup, the rights were sold off when Marvel was undergoing some financial difficulties. The first was enjoyable, as was the second. The third just took a nose-dive into a sidewalk.And as for the past movies affecting my opinion, what can I say? I don't remember the film rights being held by Marvel, and most of the time in recent history, those movies have been horrendous.
That's fair enough.I'll just wait for reviews before I decide officially whether I want to see it or not
I do have to agree with Angry Comic Book Critic and Amegashita here. Spidey does have an impressive rougues gallery which is only equalled by Batman's but the problem is which villains can be adaped correctly to suit both comic book fans and those who don't know who lesser villains like Lizard are. Personally, I'd like to see Kingpin, Electro (not in his garish green and yellow costume), Mysterio or Scorpion as villains Spidey will have to face. I like the idea of using the Ultimate universe as inspiration but I hope it's mixed with the traditional version as well. Also i want more time spent in high school in the film.
" @Lvenger:Agreed and same can be said for Ras al Ghul in the Batman movie.
How are people supposed to know about the lesser villains if they aren't given screen time? I assure you the majority of non-comic book readers who watched Spider-Man had no clue who Green Goblin was. "
Nice.
Cant wait for crazy sewer fights.
Still too bad they didnt use rhino(Imax 3D with him running around causin' chaos and throwing cars away+random explosions) or the vulture (Crazy air fights with Vulture vs Spidey vs heli's who think they are both bad Just imaging the 3D bullets everywhere)
a dick move on the part of the studio considering baker spent three movies in a minor role with expectation he would be the lizard. they should have brought him back even if it wasnt in the same continuity.
i think its a great choice but i think the film would be better with two villains, especially considering that the lizard is not a foe with the intellectual ability to match peter parker. i hope they anounce another villain, preferably Doc Ock.
also, i want him to reveal his identity to mj and possibly gwen in this movie because why wait two??
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