Pretty humorous article I found on Cracked, love these guys lists. I think they hit the nail on the head with this one.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16512_the-6-worst-comic-book-super-husbands.html
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6 Worst Comic Book Husbands
I have a question, why is it that Hank Pym hitting his wife one time 40 years ago while in the middle of a nervous break down is considered so much worse than almost all other instances of brutality and disrespect towards women in comics history? seriously every time hank is mentioned they bring up him back handing his wife while no one ever says anything about the fact that iron man uses women like tissue or that reed richards treats his wife like a retarded child or or that wolverine has absolutly no problem punching a chick full force in the face
"I have a question, why is it that Hank Pym hitting his wife one time 40 years ago while in the middle of a nervous break down is considered so much worse than almost all other instances of brutality and disrespect towards women in comics history? seriously every time hank is mentioned they bring up him back handing his wife while no one ever says anything about the fact that iron man uses women like tissue or that reed richards treats his wife like a retarded child or or that wolverine has absolutly no problem punching a chick full force in the face "
So true... So true, i mean domestic violence is horrible and I am not trying to promote it but, taking into the acount the violence that these women (and men) get on a daily basis, from villains, sparring etc... you'd expect them to be physical, what if instead, hank tried to hit her but instead she blocked the attack, and smiled. If that happened, then we'd all just grin seeing it was a part of their daily livesand continue reading without second thought. Nobody makes a fuss about richards slapping his wife..
" I have a question, why is it that Hank Pym hitting his wife one time 40 years ago while in the middle of a nervous break down is considered so much worse than almost all other instances of brutality and disrespect towards women in comics history? seriously every time hank is mentioned they bring up him back handing his wife while no one ever says anything about the fact that iron man uses women like tissue or that reed richards treats his wife like a retarded child or or that wolverine has absolutly no problem punching a chick full force in the face "Here's the thing about Hank, unlike Tony/Logan he lacks the redeeming qualities that makes fans gravitate towards him. He's generally a dick, so yeah, fans tend not to have any sympathy for the guy. I admit that writers continuing to bring up the "slap heard 'round the world" and continuing to write him as a prick doesn't help.
Reed's bar none the worse husband in the Marvel or any other comics universe, though.
Reed Richards. He's probably the worst considering he spends little to no time with his family and he used to (still does?) talk down to Sue as though she were a child. He's just a douche in general, really.
" Reed Richards. He's probably the worst considering he spends little to no time with his family and he used to (still does?) talk down to Sue as though she were a child. He's just a douche in general, really. "And yet he wonders (though I doubt he actually cares) why Sue's always spreading eagle for Namor
This is spot on assessment
" I'm suprised no one talks about the clone saga peter and mary jane "Good one man. Didn't Cyclops have a wife before/after Maddy that he just leaves on an island?
" @joshmightbe said:You clearly don't know Hank. He's a better person than Tony, Reed and Logan combined." I have a question, why is it that Hank Pym hitting his wife one time 40 years ago while in the middle of a nervous break down is considered so much worse than almost all other instances of brutality and disrespect towards women in comics history? seriously every time hank is mentioned they bring up him back handing his wife while no one ever says anything about the fact that iron man uses women like tissue or that reed richards treats his wife like a retarded child or or that wolverine has absolutly no problem punching a chick full force in the face "Here's the thing about Hank, unlike Tony/Logan he lacks the redeeming qualities that makes fans gravitate towards him. He's generally a dick, so yeah, fans tend not to have any sympathy for the guy. I admit that writers continuing to bring up the "slap heard 'round the world" and continuing to write him as a prick doesn't help. Reed's bar none the worse husband in the Marvel or any other comics universe, though. "
" Dark Huntress is SO going to love this thread xD "^_^
This thread is awesome.
@JonesDeini said:
" Pretty humorous article I found on Cracked, love these guys lists. I think they hit the nail on the head with this one.I LOVE Cracked. Their articles are always awesome.
http://www.cracked.com/article_16512_the-6-worst-comic-book-super-husbands.html "
I can see why people are defending Hank. No matter what he does, he'll always be remembered for two things; slapping Janet and creating Ultron. This makes him a somewhat relatable character because, like many people, he's made huge mistakes that he tries desperately to atone for, but knows that he can never quite erase them. I commend the character for that, and when he's written correctly, he's very compelling and one of my favorite Marvel characters.
But the list is worst comic book HUSBANDS, and let's face it, he's never been consistently good to Janet. Even putting aside the abuse, he's kind of a terrible husband.
God, I hate Reed Richards. Why is Sue still married to him? He's a jerk in the worst possible way. A lot of people say he's too unrelated because he's too smart. BS, it's because he treats everyone like they're stupid and ignores people for his silly ideas.
gambit killed bella donna's brother or dad or something(even though he didnt want to). but he still isnt as bad as reed. i do think reed is the worst. the relationship between janet and hank is as much her mental manipulation as his. they are very complicated. i did like the scene in disassembled when a 100 ft tall hank swoops up falcon who is holding janet and rushes them to the hospital. and in the doomwar story arc panther was willing to let doom kill storm to keep the vibranium from him. that is pretty cold blooded, even if it was to keep doom from attaining his godhood or whatever. cant see hank doing that. i could see reed doing that though.
reed or panther
definitely. at least hank TRIES to be a good husband. he really does. hell, reed looked more broke up when he found out about black bolt dying than when he found out his wife was a skrull. i was really enjoying the mighty avengers after the invasion when hank was leading them. they had great stories. i wish they would hurry and resurrect janet(you know they will) and put the pyms back on the avengers where they belong.
Cyclops was a much worse husband than Hank, he was married and had a child and as soon as his old girlfreind shows up he dumps his family and pretty much forgets about them until Maddy freaked out basically making him responsible for Inferno, this also makes Scott a bad father, not to mention the awful consequences every one around him had to endure because of his faults as a father and parent making him also a bad freind. Triple threat
" @JonesDeini said:No, I very much so know Hank Pym. He's done some good things (Pym particles and all that), and he's done some bad. As in real life we are defined by our mistakes, so is Hank. And he's made some significant imprints with his missteps. And I know you could attribute his failings to the things going on in his life at those times (marital problems, his insecurities, mental illness, so on an so forth). I also know he's been dedicating the rest of his life to rectifying those mistakes, especially with regards to Ultron. All that aside the article's about him being a BAD HUSBAND, he was a bad husband before the slap and was a bad one after that." @joshmightbe said:You clearly don't know Hank. He's a better person than Tony, Reed and Logan combined. "" I have a question, why is it that Hank Pym hitting his wife one time 40 years ago while in the middle of a nervous break down is considered so much worse than almost all other instances of brutality and disrespect towards women in comics history? seriously every time hank is mentioned they bring up him back handing his wife while no one ever says anything about the fact that iron man uses women like tissue or that reed richards treats his wife like a retarded child or or that wolverine has absolutly no problem punching a chick full force in the face "Here's the thing about Hank, unlike Tony/Logan he lacks the redeeming qualities that makes fans gravitate towards him. He's generally a dick, so yeah, fans tend not to have any sympathy for the guy. I admit that writers continuing to bring up the "slap heard 'round the world" and continuing to write him as a prick doesn't help. Reed's bar none the worse husband in the Marvel or any other comics universe, though. "
As far as Hank being a better human being than Tony or Logan, I call steer shite on that claim. Is Tony a pompous, self-absorbed, womanizing ass? Yes, yes he is. The catch is he's a consistently better written/characterized/developed pompous, self-absorbed, ass. And under Matt Fraction's pen especially he's been doing exactly what Hank's been doing, trying to right his wrongs. I don't know whether it was here or elsewhere but somebody mentioned that Wolvie should be on this list, I think that like the hulk circumstances outside of his control effect his marriages. Somebody also mentioned that he's a bad guy because he doesn't hesitate to hit girls full force in the face. My question is has he ever hit a woman lover or wife in continuity? Also in a general since when has he ever just hauled off and hit a woman that wasn't an enemy and an imminent threat? Wolverine's done A LOT of bad things in his life, often not while in control of himself. But even for those things he's trying to atone and it's played out in a much more interesting way then Hanks journey has IMO.
They're all terrific husbands. Their wives sucked.
And coma rays do solve everything. Yeah, I said it. Quote me.
" @JonesDeini: so from your statement I gather that neither Tony or Logan are better people they're just written better. "More or less, they're all deeply flawed men, but at the end of the day they can all rest easy knowing that they are not Reed Richards ^_^
Reed's never written well. Ultimate Reed was, but then Bendis has to go and **** that up too.
" @JonesDeini: Have you read Slott's Mighty Avengers run? That shows Hank as being a person who has always been looked down upon but has nevertheless, despite having no real reason to, always tried to save the world. He's not a thrill-seeking ***hat like Tony, or a work sociopath like Reed, or a walking cliché like Logan; he's a genuine human being who ****ed up, recognised that he ****ed up, and has dedicated his life to making amends. Hell, he saved the world and the whole of reality multiple times while the "real" Avengers were off complaining about Norman Osborn. He's the Scientist Supreme for a reason. Reed's never written well. Ultimate Reed was, but then Bendis has to go and **** that up too. "I haven't read Slott's run on Mighty Avengers. I've been sick of Avengers for the past few years so I've not read any of the team books consistently. I also am not a fan of Slott's writing, at least the bit of it I read on Spider-Man. But If you say he's done good character work on Hank I'm willing to look into it. I've been proven wrong about characters before, so maybe I'll be this go around too. I think hank has a lot of potential to mine, but I feel like writers never got around to doing it.
" @JonesDeini: Ah, that explains it. The Avengers books have been crap for a while now, but Slott's Mighty Avengers is a GIGANTIC EXCEPTION. It's brilliant, the whole book is a character study on Hank, and it's marvelous. I'd rank it amongst Marvel's greatest character-focused runs ever. It's like Born Again for Hank Pym. "This sounds most intriguing. Thanks for the recommend.
@ImperiousRix said:
"I can see why people are defending Hank. No matter what he does, he'll always be remembered for two things; slapping Janet and creating Ultron. This makes him a somewhat relatable character because, like many people, he's made huge mistakes that he tries desperately to atone for, but knows that he can never quite erase them. I commend the character for that, and when he's written correctly, he's very compelling and one of my favorite Marvel characters. But the list is worst comic book HUSBANDS, and let's face it, he's never been consistently good to Janet. Even putting aside the abuse, he's kind of a terrible husband. "
True. I think that I didn't make it clear enough that I kind of agree with this in my previous comment.
Man, we're are frakin' geeks. I mean just to give some perspective to this. NONE OF THIS IS REAL. NONE OF THESE PEOPLE ARE REAL!!! LMAO. Now let's all take a breather, step back form the keyboards and spend sometime with the women in our lives that I assume and suggest we all not beat...like Hank Pym :P
I don't like Hank Pym but at least he acts like a human and has at least some actual reason to be a bad husband. Reed on the other hand thinks he is some kind of god. not even getting into the stupid math civil war thing,
Reed seems to have Borderline personality disorder. People with this problem can go for truly loving some one and then killing them the next and then back to loving. also sue is an idiot for staying with him.
" I don't like Hank Pym but at least he acts like a human and has at least some actual reason to be a bad husband. Reed on the other hand thinks he is some kind of god. not even getting into the stupid math civil war thing, Reed seems to have Borderline personality disorder. People with this problem can go for truly loving some one and then killing them the next and then back to loving. also sue is an idiot for staying with him. "And bingo was his name-o!
I think Reed is an all round awful person him and Doom are probably the most arrogant bastards in the marvel universe(Tony comes close though)
Yeah, I think Namor & Professor X are both up there as well. Though Namor's attitude's understandable. Tony's really changed a lot after all he's gone through recently. He has a great convo with Reed about the mistakes he's made recently in Invincible Iron Man. He's trying to rectify things, and I applaud that. Reed really is a dick though, no explaining that guy.
" @JonesDeini: I believe when Reed and Doom die for good their hell is gonna be the 2 of them in a room having nothing to do but argue over whose better than who till the end of time "Ha! But they'd get off on that. They deserve the worse fate. To be stuck in a state of the art lab for all eternity but never being able to interact with any of it...that would drive them mad.
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