Whatever Happened To Spawn?

#1 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn was so big back in the 90s. Almost as well known as Batman back then. What the hell happened? (pun intended)  
He's almost completely vanished from popularity.

#2 Posted by jloneblackheart (5496 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart:
I mean popularity.
#4 Posted by c0l0nelp0pc0rn1 (35 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative: It became irrelevant as a story when Vertigo started, because they pushed the envelope farther than Spawn was willing to go or was able to keep up with. All in my opinion, of course. Spawn may have some more depth, other than being "edgy".
#5 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@c0l0nelp0pc0rn1:
What kind of characters does Vertigo have? I've heard of Vertigo, but I haven't heard of any of thier characters.
#6 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative: we have a list of over 2,000 characters here
 
it's incomplete but a good start, some big characters people may be familiar with include
 
John Constantine, Swamp Thing, The Endless, Jesse Custer, Spider Jerusalem, Yorick Brown, Lucifer Morningstar, Shade the Changing Man, etc.
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#7 Edited by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@aztek the lost:
Swamp Thing was Vertigo? I always though it was DC...
#8 Posted by MrMiracle77 (1659 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn survived as a result of its connection to McFarlane and his ability to attract popular writers to his indie book.  But with DC and Marvel starting to take their flagship characters more seriously, it was only a matter of time before the chinks started to appear in Spawn's 2-dimensional characters.

#9 Posted by aztek_the_lost (28224 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative said:
" @aztek the lost: Swamp Thing was Vertigo? I always though it was DC... "
Vertigo is a DC imprint just like Top Cow or Shadowline or WildStorm were Image imprints (though WildStorm is with DC now), so some old DC characters crossed over to the Vertigo line based on fitting into that niche Vertigo represented
 
the most famous Swamp Thing run by Alan Moore was originally printed under DC in the 80's but Vertigo is the one who has collected it into trade paperback form and Swamp Thing Vol. 2 crossed over to the imprint with #129-#171, also Swamp Thing Vol. 3 and Swamp Thing Vol. 4 were only printed under the Vertigo label
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#10 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@aztek the lost:
I had no idea.
#11 Posted by mcrmy13 (50 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative:  Swamp thing is owned by Vertigo,though,
DC Owns Vertigo so,in a way they kindda like both own swamp thing
well thats what i think at least......
#12 Posted by Mutant God (3020 posts) - - Show Bio

Its because he is not in DC or Marvel, the more popular comics.

#13 Posted by wickedflagon (3 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReverseNegative:
The '90's were good times. I remember reading the comics, playing with the early series of toys, and listening to The Crow movie soundtrack. :D
#14 Posted by MarkPar (87 posts) - - Show Bio

i think most people lost interest in spawn when he gave up or lost his omnipotent powers

#15 Posted by Winfield (116 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Spawns popularity was mainly driven by McFarlane and Image's popularity.  
McFarlane's own popularity faded as he put out less work in comics. I'd say his credibility was also damaged by his collection of balls and the ongoing fiasco with Gaiman.  
Image's popularity decreased because they were very closely linked to the speculators boom and subsequent bust of the 90s.  There is also the stigma of being an artists company while everyone else was beginning to really focus on writing. 
With creator and company going off the boil, and the industry as a whole shrinking Spawn faded into relative obscurity.

#16 Posted by Mediant (329 posts) - - Show Bio
@Winfield: I think you basically hit the nail on the head. Image's popularity, the 90's bust, McFarlane's relative withdrawl, the law suits-- they all hurt the series. 
 
That's not to say the series, universe, or character are by any means dead, but he certainly isn't anywhere near the height of his popularity now. I'd definitely say he is an appropriate avatar of the 90's in comics.
#17 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@Winfield said:
" I think Spawns popularity was mainly driven by McFarlane and Image's popularity.  McFarlane's own popularity faded as he put out less work in comics. I'd say his credibility was also damaged by his collection of balls and the ongoing fiasco with Gaiman.  Image's popularity decreased because they were very closely linked to the speculators boom and subsequent bust of the 90s.  There is also the stigma of being an artists company while everyone else was beginning to really focus on writing. With creator and company going off the boil, and the industry as a whole shrinking Spawn faded into relative obscurity. "
I see.
#18 Posted by -chapel- (379 posts) - - Show Bio

I dunno bout all that other stuff, but I personally loved Spawn and remember buying the #1 ish in a tobacco store withe my father when I was like, I think 13. I only bought it (well made my Dad buy it for me) because I thought the cover was effing cool. I had been reading alot of comics before that but just Marvel and only Bats from DC. So when I read Spawn I was like, "WOW" and instantly loved the character and have ever since. I remember whilst at a readlight, my Dad read through the profanity filled scene in ish #1 where a girl was about to be raped and ol' Spawny came to save her. I thought my Dad would take the book away from me, but he thought it was morally right and he said, in a trying to be down voice and slang, " Hey thats pretty cool" and handed the comic back to me. He gave me a quizzical look and then the light turned green. I will never forget it and I will forever love Spawn. As I got older I identified with Spawns losses and the reason why he came back and loved the character even more. And yes Spawn kinda embodies the popularity of innovative new direction in comics that started in the 90s.
#19 Posted by ReverseNegative (2729 posts) - - Show Bio
@MarkPar said:
" i think most people lost interest in spawn when he gave up or lost his omnipotent powers "
When did that happen?

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