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    Sonic is a hedgehog gifted with the power of Speed, he is based on the character in the Sonic the Hedgehog video games that are made by Sega and Sonic Team.

    What would happen if Sonic could use the Speed Force?

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    #1  Edited By The Toon Man

    I know Sonic is fast but I know that Flash and many others like him are faster thanks to the power of the Speed Force. So, I wonder what would happen if Sonic could tap into the Speed Force himself. How much faster would he become?

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    #2  Edited By kidchipotle

    As fast as the rest of the Speedsters.

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    #3  Edited By The Toon Man

    @ArturoCalaKayVee: By the way, what is the full extent of the Speedsters speed?

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    #4  Edited By Video_Martian

    He still wouldn't beat Flash...

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    #5  Edited By kidchipotle

    @The Toon Man: Originally, the full extent was speed of light, or a bit faster, but that always caused time rifts or distortions, and that was only obtained by Wally and Barry. According to the New 52, the full extent has been expanded into not just being a physical thing but now also a mental thing.

    @mr.obvious: Which Flash? He could probably beat Jay and the other non-flash speedsters. Maybe. Wally and Barry, deff not. No one can beat them haha.

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    #6  Edited By Video_Martian

    @ArturoCalaKayVee: He can beat Jay in a race, but not Barry or Wally, they're just WAY too fast for him...

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    #7  Edited By kidchipotle

    @mr.obvious: Wally and Barry are too fast for their own good. They always seem to cause some sort of rift somehow hahaha

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    #8  Edited By MrDirector786

    He would pretty much be able to go as fast as some of the speedsters in DC.

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    #9  Edited By PowerHerc

    He'd become part of the DCU as the Flash's sidekick.

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    #10  Edited By The Toon Man

    @mr.obvious: This isn't a battle thread, mind you. I'm just curious to see what would happen to Sonic's speed if he accessed the speed force. Maybe Flash could teach him some new tricks.

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    #11  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

    he'd change his name to "Sonic Speed" and change the multiverse as we know it

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    #12  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @MrDirector786 said:

    He would pretty much be able to go as fast as some of the speedsters in DC.

    Which he can probably do anyway...
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    As Super Sonic, he can already travel through time rather easily...

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    #14  Edited By MrDirector786

    @The Man of Yesteryear said:

    As Super Sonic, he can already travel through time rather easily...

    I think it's supposed to mean regular Sonic.

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    #15  Edited By The Toon Man

    @MrDirector786: Yep, it was about regular Sonic. But Super Sonic can be included.

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    #16  Edited By Video_Martian

    @PowerHerc said:

    He'd become part of the DCU as the Flash's sidekick.

    That would be cool...

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    #17  Edited By BatteredArmor

    He would redefine speed as we know it...... well at least he would as Super Sonic as regular Sonic he'd be slower than Barry or Wally, but as Super Sonic he would probably just become an omnipotent gold blur like Wally was in Kingdom Come

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    #18  Edited By Mooty_Pass

    Sonic does not need the Speed Force to be a contender agaisnt any of the Flashes. He was already FTL. Add on to his Super Sonic Form Sonic is by defenition faster than any Flash.

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    #19  Edited By Iju

    @The Toon Man: uhh, number one, sonic doent need the speed force... hes faster than that... number two if he actually DID, there is chaos emeralds, so the "speed force" is useless....

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    #20  Edited By brainwave_200

    @Iju: your right Iju this is a pointless question.

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    #21  Edited By Iju

    @brainwave_200: LOL i love you guys! ^.^

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    #22  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @PowerHerc said:

    He'd become part of the DCU as the Flash's sidekick.

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    #23  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

    He travels through time and makes it so Hedge hogs are the most Dominate Species O.o

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    #24  Edited By ms__omega

    The entire multiverse would wet itself because of the sheer awesomeness.

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    #25  Edited By Iju

    @TheCheeseStabber: lol you are so right...

    he works with no body, and he would be too fast for the DCU anyway...like i said, he doesn't need the speed force because he is FASTER than that.

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    #26  Edited By PowerHerc

    @Iju said:

    he works with no body, and he would be too fast for the DCU anyway...like i said, he doesn't need the speed force because he is FASTER than that.

    Sonic doesn't need a body to work? He gets his stuff done as a spirit, wraith or ghost, perhaps?

    Who knew? I certainly didn't!

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    #27  Edited By PurpleCandy

    The Speed Force is shared with all the other members, so yes everyone would be as fast as him, I think a better question would be...

    What if Sonic joined the Green Lantern Corps?

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    #28  Edited By whoohoo789

    correct why would sonic need the speed force he is already fast enouphe to beat bart and jay but maybe not barry or wally but let it be known im no sonic hater or flash hater

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    #29  Edited By soduh2

    Archie Sonic probably could use the speed force if he was granted access to it.

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    #30  Edited By soduh2

    @PurpleCandy said:

    The Speed Force is shared with all the other members, so yes everyone would be as fast as him, I think a better question would be...

    What if Sonic joined the Green Lantern Corps?

    I'd say Sonic is more a of blue lantern. Not because of his fur color but because of his optimism.

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    #31  Edited By PurpleCandy

    @soduh2 said:

    @PurpleCandy said:

    The Speed Force is shared with all the other members, so yes everyone would be as fast as him, I think a better question would be...

    What if Sonic joined the Green Lantern Corps?

    I'd say Sonic is more a of blue lantern. Not because of his fur color but because of his optimism.

    True true that's better and PS bout time to reply lol

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    #32  Edited By seonthehedgehog

    remeber if you do hyper was fast as time and ripped apart his universe then fixed by using that same speed

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    #33  Edited By Jeremy1989

    He'll be the fastest thing alive

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    i am going to talk about video game sonic first. most people don’t no this but sonic has time traveled using his pure speed in his normal form.

    in the Storyline of sonic cd he time traveled i’ll even quote it from the sonic wikipedia page.

    Storyline

    Using his unrivaled speed, Sonic must travel through the past, present and future of each Zone to ensure a good future and to find Dr. Robotnik’s latest invention, Metal Sonic.

    Sonic Cd

    - In Palmtree Panic, Sonic didn’t have the Time Stones with him at first, so he needed to rely on his own speed to time travel.

    this is in the Storyline of sonic cd. he time traveled to the past, present and future.

    Sonic Colors

    -Omega made calculations from Sonic and remarked that light speed would be exceeded by him, and Sonic replied that light speed is too slow for him (I think you know how Sonic feels about things about slower things).

    Sonic Generations

    -Tails said that Sonic’s speed alone can save time and space.

    -Sonic mentioned/asked that he can jog around the planet

    before they all yelled “SURPRISE!" for his birthday.

    -Outran Teleportation

    Sonic Rush-

    -Sonic traveled to another dimension (The Special Stages were deemed as other dimensions by SEGA) with just his speed.

    -Outran a Black Hole

    and in the comics he has ran so fast that he stops time literally. even when just walking or standing still time is frozen. he almost got stuck permanently in this speed. he did it in his regular form not super sonic. technically that's infinite speed he covered any distance with no time passing.

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    He'll be the fastest thing alive

    he already is

    see him in his supersonic mode

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    All of you Sonic fanboys are idiots. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9jZ_qcxivc

    fanboy videos you dont know a thing about sonic so please dont post a thing about him. Am sure u are one of those who thinks his top speed is mach1

    base sonic is only slower than d.c's top 5(bart, barry, wally,hunter and thawne) but supersonic mode he can reach any speed and please dont ask me any dumb question.

    HE DOES NOT NEEDS THE SPEED FORCE, CHAOS CONTROL IS ENOUGH

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    Well if regular sonic had the speed force he would always be as fast as super (golden) sonic.

    Super Sonic with speed force would normally be at 2-5x lightspeed

    Hyper Sonic with speed force would be near 20x lightspeed.

    he would outrun any flash.

    Then he would join the JLA to help defeat Lex Luthor and Dr.Robotnik (Eggman) who have teamed up to destroy the world.

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    Fun fact: Sonic is actually considered one of the fastest characters in fiction. He's even faster than the Flash. He is classified as "unlimited speed". The only other character that fall under this category are Zoom(the Yellow Flash). Even though this has been proven, popular belief and fandom still believe the Flash is the faster fictional character of all time...even though Zoom, a character in his own comic is faster than Flash.

    look it up. Flash has limits. DC has even pointed it out. Sega has stated Sonic has no limits...also Sonic moved so fast once he was at the beginning of time, the current time and the end of time which is some thing zoom hasn't even accomplished. So yeah...he's faster than flash when it comes to moving from place to place.

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    @drake01 said:

    Fun fact: Sonic is actually considered one of the fastest characters in fiction. He's even faster than the Flash. He is classified as "unlimited speed". The only other character that fall under this category are Zoom(the Yellow Flash). Even though this has been proven, popular belief and fandom still believe the Flash is the faster fictional character of all time...even though Zoom, a character in his own comic is faster than Flash.

    look it up. Flash has limits. DC has even pointed it out. Sega has stated Sonic has no limits...also Sonic moved so fast once he was at the beginning of time, the current time and the end of time which is some thing zoom hasn't even accomplished. So yeah...he's faster than flash when it comes to moving from place to place.

    Proof? The fastest we've ever seen Sonic move is the speed of light, in the games. He generally runs at around the speed of sound, but he's able to move faster than sound, hence the name Sonic. And before people start posting scans of the Archie Comics, the older, more comedic Archie Sonic comics aren't canon, even in the old continuity. The comic had things like "Auntie bodies" which were little old women who were the Freedom Fighters' immunity system and ridiculous stuff like that.

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    #41  Edited By drake01

    @superadam: SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series.

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    #42  Edited By SuperAdam

    @drake01 said:

    @superadam: SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series.

    The writers at Archie have stated the older issues aren't canon. They said the older issues took place when the Freedom Fighters were really young, so all the out of place stuff is the result of an unreliable narrator and the Freedom Fighters' childhood imaginations. So you can't use the early issues to prove Sonic's speed. This is referenced in one issue of the comic where, in the old continuity, Sonic says he fought Scratch and Grounder when he was "like eight."

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    #43  Edited By drake01

    @superadam: SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. That includes the old issues too. Also you are wrong game sonic in base form can travel beyond the speed of light.

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    @drake01 said:

    @superadam: SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. That includes the old issues too. Also you are wrong game sonic in base form can travel beyond the speed of light.

    In the old continuity, very few of the Sonic games were canon to the comics. And the games that were canon were only secondary canon. The canon games in the old continuity were Sonic Spinball, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic and the Secret Rings, and Sonic Rush Adventure. Sonic Rush Adventure happens differently. Sonic and Blaze only collect one Chaos Emerald in Archie's version, as stated in Sonic Universe #1. Sonic Adventure 2 also happens completely differently. Tails and Knuckles are absent from Archie's version, as stated in Sonic Universe #2. The rest of the games aren't canon in the old continuity, despite what Sega says. There's no way the Neo Metal Sonic army and Shadow being revived by the Biem can be reconciled with Sonic Heroes, for example.

    In the new continuity, most of the modern games happen, however, they still happened differently. Relic the Pika was somehow involved in Sonic Adventure's story. Snively was there for Sonic 3 and Knuckles. Breezie was involved in the Game Gear version of Sonic 2. Sonic the Fighters just recently received an adaption.

    Most of the classic spin-off titles haven't happened in the main comics continuity. Its been confirmed that Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Lost World, and Sonic Chronicles haven't happened in the comics.

    http://www.tssznews.com/2014/02/17/flynn-updates-readers-on-new-sonic-comic-continuity/

    So the games canon is different from Archie's canon.

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    @superadam:
    Like i said before SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. Also you are wrong game sonic in base form can travel beyond the speed of light.

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    @drake01 said:

    @superadam:

    Like i said before SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. Also you are wrong game sonic in base form can travel beyond the speed of light.

    The writer of the comics has said that that isn't true.

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    @drake01 said:

    @superadam:

    Like i said before SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. Also you are wrong game sonic in base form can travel beyond the speed of light.

    The writer of the comics has said that that isn't true.

    lol it's sonic Sega's mascot and ain't archie sponsored by Sega so yea it counts. its sonic the hedgehog the fastest thing alive. and aint this a comic website?

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    #48  Edited By drake01

    GUISE GUISE sonic has outran time... multiple times. Sonic CD anybody? In that the MAIN OBJECTIVE was to make sonic run back in time and into the future to insure a good future. And don't get me started about the comics. Now, coming from a long time flash fan (have been reading flash comics for 6 years now), it's pretty arguable who's faster, knowing that flash outran time and death itself, but many of sonic's feats come close aswell. Before you guys bitch if the comics are canon or not, they are. SEGA stated that they are canon and were created to expand the sonic universe and to give sonic a larger series. But game sonic is good enough to compete with flash. So, who has a higher top speed?

    Well, let's start with flash. Flash in general is known to be able to run at the speed of light, and if he can push himself hard enough, he can easily surpass it. Then there's the ability where he can outrun even TIME itself! But how fast do you need to be to outrun time? Well, not much faster than light. Once you travel at the speed of light, time comes to a full stop, and time is still around you. So, obviously to outrun it, you need to go slightly faster than light. So.... yeah. But how much faster than light can flash run? Well, in the comics it stated that straining every muscle in his body, he was able to run 10x the speed of light, but later on when he repeated this same event in infinite crisis, but when he tried to push himself to run even faster, he died. Yep. So it's safe to say that flash has a limit.

    So Sonic? Well it's in the name. He's faster than sound. But is that really his top speed? Not close. Sonic has been stated to be the fastest thing alive, and sega even said themselves that sonic was created to compete with gaming mascot mario and was created for the soul purpose of being the fastest fictional character alive. So what did they do to make this true? Let's look at sonic's feats. Yes he runs faster than sound, we know that. But how much faster can sonic run? Well for starters,

    Sonic the Hedgehog, on average, is known to run faster than the speed of sound. he sonic could instantly accelerate faster than the speed of sound with ease as shown in sonic x episode 1. he could increase his speed by using his Super Peel-Out technique. as shown in Sonic the hedgehog cd, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Triple Trouble, and Sonic Blast. in sonic unleashed the checkpoints posts. also act as radars that clock Sonic's speed when he passes them. which clocked his fastest speed of being able to go over 2,500 mph. It is also stated in the Sonic Adventure DX manual that ''He's the world's fastest, hypersonic hedgehog'' which is at a staggering speed of 3,840 mph. Sonic can move at the speed of light. as shown in Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, Sonic Heroes and in sonic generations. In those games sonic has specific light speed set of moves. the light speed dash and light speed attack. Since Sonic Heroes, he can perform the light attack fast and didn't need to charge anymore. for the dash, he no longer needs to charge as of sonic adventure 2. The Light Speed Dash returns in Sonic Generations as one of Modern Sonic's normal abilites. in sonic cd Using his unrivaled speed, Sonic managed to travel through time and ensure a good future for the Little Planet. Basically, sonic ran fast enough to outrun TIME. So obviously he had to move faster than light, and in Sonic 06 (Yes, I'm bringing out one of the worst games in history for your favorite fictional hedgehog), sonic was able to keep up with solaris in his super form, while solaris has the ability to move so fast that he can be in 3 different time periods at the same time. So that's insanely fast. Omega also stated in Sonic Colors (DS) that with Sonic's current progress, he would surpass the speed of light.'' in the Archie Comics, in the early going, Sonic outraced shadows and was faster than light. by vibrating his molecules at super-speed, Sonic can break free of chains and can create a force-field. In Hyper Sonic #134: Something about 2 missiles on opposite ends of continents about to hit. He pushed himself to his extreme limit, and really straned himself, entering a realm where time was stopped. He then proceeded to take out the threats in no time. After this, he had trouble getting out of this accelerated mode and was nearly stuck permemantly , until he found how to slow himself down to get out of it. So basically, sonic moved at the speed of infinite, because he was moving from one location to another in NO TIME. sonic has different forms of speed, regular, super, ultra, hyper, sonic can also hit warp zones and use chaos control (with an emerald). Chaos Control : CC is a completelydifferent level, you could "try" assigning a speed to a few of the times they use it in certain ways, but not really. For STARTS , CC allows teleporting,warping of space and time,generally anything related to what i just mentioned(like timetravel and dimension hopping) so... seriously? a measure of speed? lol. Super Sonic transformation- Super Sonic enhances his speed- that's all they officially say about him. and could could fly and float in the air for a unlimited amount of time. What's he's performed in feats-he's faster than light without effort, and doesn't strain to go faster at all. Sonic X- in Sonic X he travels through time and space under his own power. Archie gave Super Sonic some feats such as crossing the planet in under a second(Super Sonic's first archie fight), but...not much . He did avoid a black hole, but it's not that impressive, though physics says you must be FTL to escape those.(as if Super Sonic could have been hurt anyway. Sonic Shuffle: Super Sonic's Sonic Rumble move-he dashes with afterimages behind him, up to a opponent, seems to do nothing, then just instantly appears where he started ,and then a glowing haze forms where he was at,caused from attacking X enemy he dashes with afterimages behind him, up to a opponent, seems to do nothing, then just instantly appears where he started ,and then a glowing haze forms where he was at,caused from attacking X enemy numerous times at such a speed; it was a "delayed effect". In Sonic CD "Using his unrivaled speed, Sonic managed to travel through time and ensure a good future for the Little Planet." that's only BASE Sonic just using his speed to travel through time. Finishing up: The archie feat lets him move at anywhere in no time which equates to infinite speed due to that factor. And that was him in his BASE form. He could just use CC and 'time stop' to get that^ or externally, seriously Stop Time for all, (Sonic X), but he prefers his speed over CC. Sonic the hedgehog is beyond the speed of light. In one of the sonic comic issues, Sonic ran towards knuckles at such insane speed (and was stated as "unmeasurable speed"), sonic ripped through the fabric of time and space, and accidentally destroyed the universe. his top speed is immeasurable it's unknown.

    So.. in conclusion, Both characters are fast, but flash has shown many limits, while sonic has shown that he has no limits at all, and can run as fast as well,,, he needs to be. Sonic was created for the purpouse of being the fastest fictional character alive, and that's the way it's gonna be.

    The fastest character is Sonic.

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    Sonic doesn't need the speed force, he is the speed force.

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    Sonic doesn't need the speed force, he is the speed force.

    He'll break the speed force, Because he IS natural born speedster. Wally and Barry were normal humans in the beginning.

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