The Trouble with Zenn-La and it's Non-Existence

Posted by jloneblackheart (5520 posts) - - Show Bio

So I've begun to really start thinking about this and there are some things that just don't match up here: 
 

Zenn-La was destroyed in 1947 by the Other. Galactus created such an elaborate illusion of it's existence that the Silver Surfer or no one else would ever know what truly happened...  

 
But, if Zenn-La were destroyed in 1947, in the presence of Galactus and the Silver Surfer (and the Surfer's future self), then why did Galactus return and absorb the planet's energies after the Surfer betrayed him? The planet had already been destroyed long before this event. Why would he create hardships for illusions? Why would he give them the chance to escape if they weren't even real and he knew it? Why bother at all? 
 

We can assume every event played out in the comics with Zenn-La and the Zenn-Lavians was after 1947, as it all involved the Surfer being freed from Galactus' service. So...

 
Did Fennan Radd and Yarro Gort, among other Zenn-Lavians, ever even truly exist? Yarro was never killed or captured. Where is he? Just an illusion running around Earth?
How could Norrin give some of his Power Cosmic to Shalla Bal, if she were only an illusion? 
How could Mephisto take the soul of Shalla Bal if she were only an illusion? 
Did known Zenn-Lavians such as Lightwave leave Zenn-La before 1947? He would have had to, or else they aren't real either. 
How could a being like the Great One take the entire population and the planet into his mind if they were only an illusion? 
   

So, WTF? 


It seems to me the whole thing was never really thought out. It's a shame. There has been no mention of this plot line since. It's as if Zenn-La and the Surfer's love Shalla Bal just don't exist anymore. I hope one day they address these issues and, as much as I hate when they do, retcon the hell out of this. It makes no sense and seems to be just writing with no research done to make sure there were no contradictions...
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#1 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio

Perhaps when Galactus returned to "eat" Zenn-La and show the Surfer who was boss maybe he was really just reabsorbing the power it took him to create the planet double? Just a random insane hypothesis.

#2 Posted by Illyana Rasputin (2771 posts) - - Show Bio

Ooops! Continuity Director!

#3 Posted by jloneblackheart (5520 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime` said:
" Perhaps when Galactus returned to "eat" Zenn-La and show the Surfer who was boss maybe he was really just reabsorbing the power it took him to create the planet double? Just a random insane hypothesis. "
I'm still going with bad writing. What you said could be true, but why would Galactus have the compassion to create the illusion in the first place? If he knew that the Surfer would be free from his service one day and return home, why be angry when the day finally came to pass?  
 
But I suppose what you suggest is still possible. I mean, the planet did eventually just disappear. Maybe he just took some of his power from it so it would eventually dissipate, and at the same time make the remaining Zenn-Lavians resent the Surfer as a way of getting back at Surfer for his betrayal. 
 
Still doesn't really explain those other things though :)
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#4 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart: I am sorry I refuse to delve that deep into madness to figure out what the writers were, or were not, thinking. If you value me as a human being you wouldn't ask me to do such a thing!
#5 Posted by Jotham (4564 posts) - - Show Bio

You just blew my mind. And I know pretty much nothing about Galactus or Silver Surfer.

#6 Posted by jloneblackheart (5520 posts) - - Show Bio

Based on what I've read in Chaos War, it seems they have really forgotten about this. 
 
First, they have the Gods of Zenn-La introduced and absorbed by Mikaboshi. This seems to be current info. How are there gods for a destroyed planet?
 
Then, in Chaos War: God Squad, the Surfer references the possibility of 'No Zenn-La. No Shalla Bal.' 
 
THERE IS NO ZENN-LA OR SHALLA BAL!!!!!  THEY ARE LONG GONE!!!!   ARRGGHHH!!!! 
 
I'll post a scan later....

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#7 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart: LOL when I read that issue of Chaos War: Chaos King and read that about Zenn-La I immediately did think of this thread. So yeah apparently the modern writers forgot that Galactus destroyed the planet to punish Surfer. Well its not like they haven't screwed up major continuity before.
#8 Posted by jloneblackheart (5520 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nova`Prime`: Galactus only consumed Zenn-La, not the people. Shalla Bal helped rebuild the planet with the Power Cosmic, but none of this really could or should have happened since the Other destroyed it long before this happened (ahhh.....the contradictions). 
 
So.... the current writers forgot what the previous writers forgot.... 
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#9 Posted by Nova`Prime` (4165 posts) - - Show Bio
@jloneblackheart said:
" So.... the current writers forgot what the previous writers forgot....  "
And the cycle continues.
#10 Posted by jloneblackheart (5520 posts) - - Show Bio

 Chaos War: God Squad #1
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#11 Posted by CosmicGod432 (177 posts) - - Show Bio
Im hoping that we will find out more about this in the Silver Surfer's upcoming mini-series. If not than they just screwed everything up.
#12 Posted by kfhrfdu_89_76k (3762 posts) - - Show Bio

Nononononononoonononononooo! 
No retcons! 
What I believe, is that a being with even the air it breaths so full of cosmisity, altered the whole planet and it`s existence because it was bored. 

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