than who can beat silver surfer?
and many, many more.
I just always keep in mind, just because SS is arguably one of the top five most powerful superheroes in comicbook history, that doesn't make him undefeatable. The above characters I've mentioned all stand a good chance against surfer or have beaten him before, for various reasons, such as greater cosmic awareness, superior intellect, more raw power, or just one of those "over-powered' villains.
That list would take forever so I'll just give a sample:
-Any of the Endless
-The Darkness entity (not Jackie Estacado, the real Darkness)
-The Angelus (again, the entity)
-Nabu Doctor Fate
-Classic Doctor Strange
"Galactus Thanos Anti-Monitor Dr. DoomLex Luthor Solaris Red Hulk and many, many more. I just always keep in mind, just because SS is arguably one of the top five most powerful superheroes in comicbook history, that doesn't make him undefeatable. The above characters I've mentioned all stand a good chance against surfer or have beaten him before, for various reasons, such as greater cosmic awareness, superior intellect, more raw power, or just one of those "over-powered' villains. "
Zombie Hulk bit off his head. So Zombie Hulk.
Red Hulk does have a chance because he can drain cosmic energy he did it to surfer once and stole his board form him.
Galactus can destroy him
Molecule man (if he had first strike)
Thanos with the gauntlet
Thor when he had Odin's power might have some magic that could do it.
Maybe Professure X could get him to kill himself... nah
Nova the other herald?
With enough prep Batman Bruce Wayne
With enough prep Reed Richards or Dr. Doom
Morgan Le Fey (Marvels) maybe via time travel
"The oldest living entity in the universe and, in fact, the first "
"Galactus has appointed a number of beings to act as his Herald, with each bestowed with a small fraction of the Power Cosmic. "
Should be obvious, from the last 75 years it's not about who's the most powerful, but what the...
Surfer is a top tier A lister and would rank next to Pre Crisis characters
Lex Luthor !? NEVER
Thor maybe if he has he Odin Force but I'm not sure...today he jobs a lot
Rulk, he fought a weakened Surfer from the past timeline and the win was PIS
Sentry? Only if Bendis writes while smoking his crackpipe
Zoom!? WTF yes he is fast but he is a one trick pony and got his ass kicked by Liberty Bell and Wonder Woman...Surfer kills this lamo
Darkseid? Post Crisis is sometimes a really pathetic jobber, even when he does have a respectable showing he can barley win against Superman.
Black Adam - not happening
Beta Ray Bill - already lost, badly
Dr Manhattan - NEVER
Nova - NEVER
Emo Prime maybe...he's really tuff, can be a plot device when an idiot like Johns writes but he is slow, vulnerable to red sun and weak against a mind fuck
Majestic yes he might take the majority
Ion yes even retcon wins, he is more powerful
Pre Crisis Darksied - yes, easy win
Doom with prep - yes
Phoenix, yes very easy
Mxy, yes easy
Squirell Girl, well she's beast everyone else...so....
@Sexy Merc said:
Majestic is awfully close. There are a handful of others. Classic Strange. Dr Fate.
Thing with the Surfer is he so FRICKIN' fast, it's ridiculous. He reminds of Supes a bit, because he rarely, if ever utilizes his powers to their full extent and tanks a lot of shots he could simply avoid. But he is certainly way up there on the power scale.
And don't forget that he's from a utopian society which main philosophy is peace that is why he always hold back if he was not doing so i don't see anyone with prep time or not beat him down and don't forget he's also a scientist from his home world. So He will beat
Lex Luthor & Batman (i don't even know why people brought them)
and coe only Mr MXY, Darkseid pre-crisis or the new Thanos( Thanos Imperative). Thor Odinforce boosted
and Majestic could beat him
Well, for starters, it should be someone who can move at least fast enough to move from one point in time to the next. Obviously, someone slower than this is gonna get smacked....unless, we are talking characters so powerful that speed is only a secondary consideration if at all. Thanos and Odin come to mind. However, The Runner has beaten him, not on speed, but on strength alone (see SS3vo2). I would also say Zoom II...but...I have to wonder how he would bring permanent damage to Norrin who can go intangible. Zoom II is certainly faster (the fastest character in all of comics as far as I'm aware...), but again Norrin's intangibility presents a problem for Zoom II, who lacks a DC speedsters mastery of the speed force and can do cool things like bring a character out of their intangible state. Also, Dr Strange should be able to take him as long as he has the protective shield of Cytorrak up, he should be good to go.
regular savage hulk could....come on really no one mentions the hulk? hulk would tear him in half if he wanted to
No, no, no! Have you ever done any research on Hulk v SS encounters? Hulk has like one lucky win in the Planet Hulk story where he needed the help of his warbound friends to take down a severely weakened Surfer who was without the power cosmic, which is his USP and the equivalent of removing Hulks ability to get stronger as he gets angrier. Even in this condition, the Surfer was proving too tough for Hulk until he got help. Hulk then surprise attacked the Surfer after he had stopped fighting and smashed him repeatedly. The Surfer got up a short while later with no visible marks on him! Most times they have met, the Surfer has just removed Hulks gamma powers, tis simple. I wish Hulk fans would stop over-estimating their character's abilities against far more powerful opponents! Thor is capable of stopping Hulk due to mjolnir, but Hulk doesn't have the ammunition, sorry.
One Above All
Mad Jim Jaspers
Rune King Thor
Great Evil Beast
The Fenris Wolf
Just a TINY fraction of entities who could beat the crap out of Surfer.
..and yes Superman could. I think Surfer would probably win the majority of their encounters, but Superman is probably stronger, very very fast and has superb combat speed. If he managed to move quick enough to avoid a cosmic blast and get in a hit, he could win. Equally, on other occasions, Surfer has the ability to do a real number on Supers. There are a number of characters who could beat SS, but equally SS would beat the majority of characters..
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